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Way way back when we did one of the “Who is Regina’s next love” after Daniel said “love again” and we all tossed out names of mythological/classic story love interests, Robin Hood seemed to generate a lot of interest of the type of character personality that seemed to fit the bill. Then he got cast last season along with Marian, and I thought well there goes that. After all the teases this time around though, I’m definitely thinking the same way you are Wicked Regal.

While it is sad that something tragic happened to Marian in OUAT (maybe got turned into a fox? then hunted by the Huntsman? how dark do they want to go!) I could see a very Shakespearean Taming of the Shrew-esque dynamic between these two sassy, snarky characters. I’d love to see Lana flex her comic timing, and have her bring out the underlying sweeter side of Regina. A modern adaptation of that Shakespeare play that I love is “10 things I Hate about You” and I feel like Regina could be in that “Who is this guy, and why doesn’t he hate me the way everyone else does?” suspicion/awkward phase. We saw little hints of this side of her when she was genuinely opening up to little Owen before it all went tragic. I do feel she needs to do some work on her dark heart, but I do believe like the poster says her love for her son will be stronger, and her heart will emerge from NL much less dark than when it went in, and hopefully, less lonely!

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lol I like Pan14’s ending better…..but now I ‘m scared they might riff on LOST–maybe they can do a fake out dream sequence of THAT< then go back to Grumpy closing out SB. I wanted everyone to actually settle permanently in SB, and to "infiltrate" the real world so its more like the BSG ending where there are clues that "fairy tale people" have been inter-mixing with us-think-we're-normal-folk all along...

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

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For any LOST fans sing it….”C–oora–is Everybody….Cora—is Everbody…”

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

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I love that book! I could see them using a nod to it to travel through a wrinkle in space for sure.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

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I understand not wanting to sift through a bunch of stuff supporting a half of triangle you don’t like, or feeling the need to defend your right to ship the half you do–but there are people who take their identity as part of a ship group way too far, and view with suspicion anything said by the other side.

It’s a psychological phenomena, and I found this excerpt to explain what I mean:

Groupthink

Groupthink is the tendency for a close-knit group to emphasize consensus at the expense of critical thinking and rational decision-making. In a groupthink situation, group members squash dissent, exert pressure to conform, suppress information from outside the group, and focus selectively on information that agrees with the group’s point of view.

Groupthink is more likely to occur when groups have certain characteristics:

High cohesiveness. Group cohesiveness is the strength of the liking and commitment group members have toward each other and to the group.
Isolation from outside influences
A strong leader
The intent to reach a major decision

Group Polarization

The dominant point of view in a group often tends to be strengthened to a more extreme position after a group discussion, a phenomenon called group polarization. When a group starts out with a dominant view that is relatively risky, the group is likely to come to a consensus that is even riskier. This phenomenon is called risky shift .
Minority Influence

A committed minority viewpoint can change the majority opinion in a group. Group members are more likely to be influenced by a minority opinion when the minority holds the opinion firmly.

Deindividuation

When people are in a large group that makes them feel aroused and anonymous, they may experience deindividuation. When people become deindividuated, they lose their inhibitions and their sense of responsibility and are not self-conscious about their behavior. Deindividuation is a major reason for the violence that sometimes happens in mobs.

I think its eery how well shipping groups and “bubbles” illustrate these group dynamics, though I feel because of RG’s role as moderator and the slightly analyical bent of some of us who are on active on the forums, who like to discuss/debate, besides the maturity thing I mentioned earlier, we also avoid some of that polarization/war mentality here more than the average user on tumblr.

Maybe I could go back to grad school and study shipping for social psychology…but I think providing spaces to encourage discussion not aimed at “debate” so much, but at countering negative stereotyping is a better way to feel the Oncer identity better than “don’t tag your hate” stay in your bubbles.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

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Just saw Jo’s post–that is why Tumbler can be a place of nastiness, and it helps to remind yourself that some of the fans who use it do tend to be a bit younger and more immature than the people doing this old-fashioned message forum thing.
So that accounts for some of it, though the graphics and videos people come up with are fun and worth seeing, I feel the quality of the character analysis end of it does tend to be very much like my middle school friends back in the day “OMG, he has on green, I have on green, he wants me not you, I’m cool you drool” flavor regardless of the ship or fandom.

So don’t take it as something about the nature of any shippers generally as it isn’t. It’s more a Tumblr youth thing I think. (Now I feel so old and mom like saying that )…..Compmlaining here only would ruin the wonderful and welcoming feel of this place I think, but I understand what you mean. I have no idea about the following /unfollowing thing.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

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I am blown away Slurpeez! I love the thematic parallels in the nature of these four characters. Emma and Neal seem to me a mix in some ways, as both have fears and self-doubt, but also forgiveness and hope, whereas in true FairyTale character style, Rumple and Belle are more polar opposites in that respect.
Yet there are so many ways in which we can see some story elements play out the same. I hope one will be the easy reunion Rumple and Belle had in “Broken” but I do think Emma is more likely to be slower about officially acknowledging a relationship with Neal, as he is with her. I think it will happen very gradually before either would admit or act on feelings they have, as there will be lots going on externally, but also internally for both of them.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

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I agree with you about the Merpeople thing Myrill. Maybe that’s something they’ll address with a future storyline?

Then again, see Tamara and Greg–I absolutely agree the dramatic impact of their sudden violent deaths was undercut by the feeling they were just plot tools to get Henry to NL.

I’d expected them to die, really, but for it to have more impact on the character development of our regular characters in some way. Rumple kills Tamara and you are right, there was no mercy and it was sort of parallel to his killing Milah. I wish they had played it up more really, but not sure how much more.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

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I love the cinnamon bark and the sword pics! Shippy goodness.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

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I felt the same way NickC ! lol @ Walking Dead.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

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