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I also popped by Schmacky’s site during the forum downtime. I agreed with that fairytale post. I made one comment there anonymously. Sticking to the ask box word limit was so hard for me, I never tried again. The comment was about how the officer that arrests Emma says possession of stolen goods, and how Emma really went to jail for her own crime. Schmacky responded that Emma’s point of view was that it looked like he’d framed and manipulated her.
I agree that is how Emma thought about it for years, but she had to rethink everything when she heard more of Neal’s story. Its not like she was some innocent kid who he swept off her feet, knocked her up, then framed her for his crime so he could get away. She would have risked jail for him if she thought it would help them be together. So he made mistakes sure, and he did betray her, but unlike some others, he’s acknowledged what he did to her and apologized for the hurt he caused.
So maybe it hasn’t been “dealt with” enough for some fans, but for others its a sub plot that’s dragged on too long already . She loved him, he loved her, but stuff happened, and now they’re apart, whatever, where’s Peter Pan so he can rrrrrrrippp a shadow?
If you step back from the romance, you realize Emma has connected with a LOT of people. It’s not just Hook, but she has used her pain to help her connect with Anton, Ashley, Aurora, Regina and pretty much any other character who made a bad choice and needs a second chance. If she can feel that way with so many others, she really isn’t so badly damaged that she can’t forgive Neal when knowing his side of things.
The writers are not locked into making SF happen or CS. They don’t have to give Emma a romance, as she HAS a true love as a mother for Henry. They could even end the series with it being slightly ambiguous about whether she has a romantic relationship with anyone or as it is now, with so many ships you could have an armada. Just look at the “payoff” for WoodenSwan’s build up–need we say more? These writers can flip the page, and start a new story and call it a twist. We fans won’t like it equally well of course, but writers weave between foreshadowing things and reconfiguring them. That’s the nature of television writing.
So this summer, I’m hoping for SF, but who knows, this time next year the only thing I KNOW I will root for is renewal….or maybe not even that (see Season 3 of Heroes….never have I been so happy for a show I loved so much to end so fast).
[adrotate group="5"]“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
Some feel resigned, but some kind of are the opposite. I personally feel like I do with all theories we throw out there. I am reluctant to ever commit fully since there is so much we don’t know. We don’t have all the puzzle pieces, so all I know is what looks more fairytale to me at this point in the story.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
Tumblr is kind of scary I think! I feel like a little kid at the edge of a deep pool, then I choke and go back to the safety of the kiddie end where I don’t have to know how to make a blog.
What did Snow think about how August knew the name Neal, when all Snow said was “Henry’s father”?
Maybe she just thought Emma had revealed more to August than to her. She does kind of blink rapidly and pause, then talk about how Neal is engaged to someone he met in NY. She doesn’t ask August about what he was hoping, or why that was tied to his regrets and mistakes. So I know its just another little thing that isn’t filled in, like Regina wondering what Gold’s son was doing at the well, worrying so much about Henry. Since we know Regina didn’t find out he’s Henry’s father until later. Still, it seems kind of odd in hindsight to me she didn’t say, “wait, what do you know about Neal?”
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
I had another angle on Peter and Tink. What if he is trapped by Tink, because she fell in (unrequited) love with him? I could see both of them being a little bad, and everyone caught in the middle in the struggle of Peter to end the “blessing” on Neverland that Tink cast to keep him with her forever. So our heroes think Tink is “on their side” when they get to NL and meet her, but she really isn’t.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
Hm the format for the quote was very messed up. It looked ok on my screen but it put half of the lines in, and left other half out, so now its harder to read then if I”d just not bothered with the code:
So here it is again:From the TV guide Lightening Round 3 Interview.
Will we find out about Emma’s tattoo?
Adam Horowitz: I would say probably not.
Kitsis: It’s the same flower that’s on her father’s crest, but how she got it and why she chose it is probably not something we’ll get to this year.“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
They already answered a little on the Tattoo–TV Guide Lightening Round 3.
Will we find out about Emma’s tattoo?
Adam Horowitz: I would say probably not.
Kitsis: It’s the same flower that’s on her father’s crest, but how she got it and why she chose it is probably not something we’ll get to this year.I don’t think the characters in FTL generally have last names. Snow White is her name, like Mary Margret is her name in SB, but of course there she also has the last name of Blanchard. Rumpelstilksin didn’t have a last name. It’s quoted on his war letter as one name, not like his first name is Rump and his last name is Skin. Now I’ve just recalled RC and the Full Monty, and can’t stop giggling.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
Wow Phee, that is some banner!
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
I wonder if they will have Tink be dark too since Peter is? Maybe she is really the big bad, not him (hey we might finally get a sneaky fairy being sneaky!).
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
Rumpel vowing to kill the person who is his undoing, then finding out it is Henry and his grandson.
Cora kissing Rumpel…..EEEEEk.
Tamara and Greg kissing …DOUBLE EEEK.
Cora smiling at Regina before she died.
Rumpel accepting Nealfire’s death and lying down to die, along with Belle (not even trying to save her).
Greg running Hook over.
Bae not being who Peter Pan is after.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
Richard Armitage I only had seen in the Hobbit…now if only SB’s dwarves looked like the one he plays…..
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
