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kfchimera
ParticipantI liked those theories of Wendy and the HO, or even Igor (Victor’s buddy) rounding up people from realms where folks were missing, but now I think it all boils down to PP was manipulating GregOwen and Tamara (GOAT).
None of the “science” stuff they had was actually science, but magic all along, that taser, the cuff, even the “app for that” they followed in the mines. Magic all of it! They were, as Rumpel says, merely unwitting pawns of the real big bad, PP.
So unless it turns out that GOAT are actually playing PP, something neither Gold or PP realize, and there is actually an anti-magic organization out there, at the moment it feels like the HO is just over as a plot development other than GOAT learning they’ve been duped.
[adrotate group="5"]“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
kfchimera
ParticipantI’ll have to check out some of those series!
Here are a random collection of ones I’ve read that might interest someone who enjoys OUAT:
Mercedes Lackey has a series called the 500 Kingdoms that is about a world where Fairytale tradition is a force that tries to push the inhabitants lives around. She has another series set in the historic real world that is less romance novely as well, one of which The Fire Rose is a Beauty and the Beast tale. Both series feature separate stand alone stories set in the same universe with occasional overlap rather than straight sequels.
Dennis Mckieran has a series retelling some fairytales, starting with Once Upon A Winter’s Night–a take on East of the Sun, West of the Moon.
The Historian by Elizabeth Kostova–not fairytale, but a well written take on the Gothic legend of Dracula. She also wrote “The Swan Thieves” though that isn’t magical but does have a similar feel in some ways of how the story unfolds. If you like that, you might also like Possession by AS Byatt, which sounds like a horror novel but absolutely isn’t.
I don’t like horror as a genre, but I do like suspense, so if you like Gothic novels, there are of course the classic tales of Wuthering Heights or Jane Eyre, Frankenstein by Mary Shelley. In the same genre, there’s the short story, The Turn of the Screw by Henry James. I’d just throw in anything by Henry James though they aren’t all Gothic Tales and definitely NOT a fairytale, but apparently, they are filming “What Maisie Knew”.
From gothic suspense to romantic suspense, I wandered into Mary Stewart who wrote a ton of that genre of novels that are stand-alone stories set in more modern real world settings of the 60’s as that is when she wrote). One of her novels, The Moon Spinners, was actually turned into a Disney live action movie, but it sort of butchered the plot and characters. Her most famous series though is a take on the Arthurian Legend, starting with the Crystal Cave.
If you have kids to read Fairy Tales too (or just want to read them yourself ) there are a ton of clever reinventions of those tales or stories in the same genre.
For Picture Books two that I recall off hand are:
Waking Beauty by Leah Wilcox (a funny take on sleeping beauty, there’s another one on Rapunzel)
The Princess Knight by Cornelia Funke (who wrote Inkheart, which was filmed but I haven’t read it or seen it).
For older readers ready for chapter books, there is a series that Disney commissioned for the Disney Fairies brand for life in Pixie Hollow, by Gail Carson Levine, who also wrote Ella Enchanted (that Disney also filmed).
The Chronicles of Prydain is another chapter book series, that inspired The Black Cauldron animated film of Disney. I didn’t like Disney’s movie as much as the book version.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
kfchimera
ParticipantHmmm now that is a new idea on how Bae escaped!
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
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ParticipantI’d love for them to do Mary Poppins but I can’t see it happening in S3, and I’d actually prefer it not to be a small cameo thing but a good old OUAT twist on the story. I keep trying to think of an actress I’d like to see in the role or for Bert but nothing really comes to mind.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
kfchimera
ParticipantI don’t think Jared having a growth spurt is taking the writers by surprise and I think they have lots of story reasons to suggest he grew or to (as they did with Bailey and Dylan) pretend he didn’t grow, whichever they want to do. He’s grown a little from the pilot, but it’s not like he suddenly shot up and looks like a teenager (especially next to hollywood-style 20 year old teenagers cast for the Lost Boys like Felix) rather than a kid. They might not put him in a scene with the other kid actors he’s been in with before (like young August, Grace or whoever) but those kids probably grew too anyway. Long term I kind of wonder what they have in mind but actors growing is not a new problem.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
kfchimera
ParticipantTamara totally deserves an unhappy ending, but I don’t think I can cheer if it happens in a way that sort of condones our villains using their powers out of anger and frustration. I want to see them continue to redeem themselves–if they must slip, then they do, but it should definitely be acknowledged as a slip and they should pay for it in some way. So maybe Greg would have flipped and helped them, but they kill Tamara, and so he destroys something that would have given them an advantage. Something like that–I want the bad acts to continue to bite the people who do them. It can be fun to cheer our main characters achieving victory and payback, but for me, I want to see their characters growing in some way.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
kfchimera
ParticipantThat video of Dominic Monhagan and the snake is crazy! Well Peter Pan might be already a done deal for someone, but maybe they can get Dom a role in another season to keep him safe from all those beasties!
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
kfchimera
ParticipantThat confirms what I thought about the way they answered. They went back to a technicality about where Alexandra was conceived, but it of course leaves a lot of things open to assumptions about what that implies. Were no babies conceived and born in the year Emma came to SB? We weren’t shown any of course, so none of us asked about it.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
kfchimera
ParticipantYes, that guy-they were also in SG-1 last season together, though they had completely different characters, with a totally different dynamic. I just think it would be funny for them to go for show #3 that way.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
kfchimera
ParticipantI pictured Hugh Grant as Lockheart but I have to agree Brannagh is a better choice. What I found funny were all the shippers putting Lockheart with Trewlawney, given that Brannagh and Emma Thompson used to be married (she played Trewlawney).
I also think Claudia Black would make a good pirate mama for Hook(in flashbacks)–could work in Bowder as a sea captain trying to capture her or something.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
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