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Yes Phee!
good idea on tweeting a thanks, will do that too….hooray for a journalist who’s interested enough to ask a question about Neal!
[adrotate group="5"]“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
Maura Jade…wasn’t that the Star Wars Books sequels character ?
Mara Jade Skywalker http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mara_Jade_Skywalker
New mash up, b/c she’s depicted as a red head too and we know A&E are SW fans….she is Mara Jade 😛
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
Well hopefully MRJ doesn’t want to leave! I wonder, if you asked him was it harder to play a serial killer on True Blood or Neal on OUAT in terms of dealing with the cruelty and delusions of fans who confuse reality with the character on the show—my hunch is he would say OUAT.
If A&E are pushed by various concerns to change anything in their story, then I guess a Mary/Michael sort of thing is better than some alternatives. I love the happy endings, but their original version for the pilot had David dying! So it is something in their mind to have a true love couple that doesn’t make it and what happens after? For CSers–it would sort of be like much of what they claimed anti-sf was not true, but they could go back to their old metas where they talked about how parallel it was that Emma lost Graham (who now doesn’t seem like her ‘true love’ if she only admitted to being in love once, because of how strongly she feels about Neal).
Anyway…some happy thoughts fueled by spoiller/interviews Neal’s name got a mention ! Knock me down, some journalists actually remember he is an important character and one important to Emma. While it wasn’t rah rah Neal’s Emma’s love or anything, it WAS very in line with things we said. Emma’s memories are re-set to how she felt, and the way the article quoted Eddy it made it sound to me like the time from Manhattan on were positive experiences she had with Neal. So there’s that. She learned a lot that helped her to see him in a new light, but even with it gone I think her feelings for him are still going to be there and while it seems like they’re setting up another unhappy reunion….surprise, she’ll get her memories back before then so this time we get a happy reunion.“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
I like it MedChen, some fun crack there…
The only thing is, I think “rose red” and “snow” sort of touched on with Ruby and Snow ‘s story as they were kind of “sisters” and while no transformed bears who really were Princes….Ruby did shapeshift. Plus in SW &RR, there’s sort of an element that both girls like the bear and the one who doesn’t ends up with him romantically and the other marries his twin brother. Well..James is dead of course but Snow did have a little fun time with Whale and it seemed like Ruby Red might have been getting closer to him….
I absolutely agree that Rumple wouldn’t have given up so easily but I feel like Regina really is Henry Sr. ‘s bio daughter, with how they casted it. But it could be interesting if we find out Cora knew she wasn’t at one point and just (being heartless) didn’t care–she’d raised Regina to be Queen, and little ” green wicked” wasn’t suitable for that purpose.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
LOL PoM….someone make that a graphic manipulation and send it to Adam!
Anyway so true Watcher–no matter how sure we feel we’re right about something, there’s always more we don’t know! You can guess part of something and find out you’re half right or right for the wrong reasons or just way off. Maybe she’ll have the essential character traits /background that goes with the named verison you were saying though–never know! So maybe you weren’t all the way off.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
Batman cross over…Poison Ivy.. na na na nuh nan nan a….no way.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
Interesting news!
I do not think they are confirming WWW is tied to Cora but they can be sneaky. I think all they meant is they are choosing a unique name, not Elsabeth or whatever the Helena Bonham Carter QoH from the alice movie had as a name, so similarly it is not Elphabah or whatever.
It could also be a synonym for a symbol of the character as Cora meant heart, so perhaps it’ll be something to do with Green or Wicked. I’d also think Dorothy, Glinda or even Cruella could be mashup-potential names.
If they are going on a color theme, it could be Emerald …Auntie “Em” to the Wizard being “Uncle ” Henry. Whee for Speculation fun.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
You’ve got talent for the graphics.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
I wonder, if Neal was absolute least favorite of more CSers than Hook is least favorite of SFers? No idea, but he wasn’t in my bottom 5, was below all the main cast, which surprised me because I thought I liked him more than Regina. Yet I like people he is at odds with, so it might push him down because I like Rumple, Belle and Neal more. Same with Snow–I like her more than Rumple, but since I don’t hate Regina, it seems like I like Snow less than I do, if that makes sense.
I’m not a “Dearie” or “Regal” or “Hooker” or even a ..what was the name they came up with for Neal? I think it should have been “Homies” to go with Hookers and Hoodies…but I like all the characters and want them generally to be happy, but if it came down to a conflict that could not be resolved –I guess I do like the CharmingStilskin Clan, and to the extent Regina or Hook’s goals don’t conflict with theirs, then want to see them happy too.
I don’t know how the writers are going to resolve the tension in what Neal and Hook want, but I don’t think at this point in the story that they’ve been so clear that Emma loves Hook and doesn’t love Neal or that Neal would be somehow this awful horrible guy to her.
Everytime there’s people questioning Snow about her positive opinions on Neal, it makes me sigh, because Snow is also being positive about Hook and Regina. She, knows there’s problems, it isn’t like she’s completely forgotten these things, but she also can tell from what they all went through that they can be on the same side, and work together. They can find a way to adjust their ideas of what a “happy ending” would be for them in a way that isn’t “I win you lose”. Once they can get to that point of wanting things that aren’t in conflict so directly, they can get along.
So maybe Neal will start to love someone else but I don’t see him doing that with how he has been written where a decade went along and it took a woman on a mission completely faking everything on her side for him to get engaged. A real relationship has two people with their own uncertainties, fears of rejection and things like that, and the way Neal is, I can’t see someone else falling for him when so much of his heart is with Emma. The same with Hook at this point, which is why I’m not on CaptainFairy, but was into Hookriel as I presumed it was a mutual broken hearts thing (and it was the basis of the original inspiration for the Little Mermaid story!). I’d hoped they wouldn’t take Hook’s feelings from attraction/infatuation into love, but that seems to be what they’re saying on some level Hook thinks he feels. Yet what a character thinks they feel isn’t necessarily the whole story.
We saw Neal use that globe, thinking about Emma and how he feels, so pretty sure his love is real. As I said, it’s my view that he’s a loyal character and not the type of guy to fall in love all that easily, despite falling for Tamara’s wiles. Hook on the other hand, is someone I think that does fall in love easily. He met Milah for a day and ran away with her. He met Emma for a few hours more or less, thought she was hot stuff, but not enough to where he trusted her despite her misgivings about him. So even if he did try to double-deal Cora at the portal fight, he still stuck by Cora’s side in SB and helped her even after Emma saved his life. He could have more openly told them what he knew but chose to stick to killing Rumple. Its only after that is empty to him, where he isn’t sure what to do, thinks about Bae, sees Regina’s sacrifice for Henry and asks himself what he wants. THEN his thoughts turn to Emma, but it is not until he kisses her that he realizes he can move on from Milah. So everything before then? I think he wasn’t sure what he was doing but she drew him in.
Emma’s made up of True Love, and I think as with Graham, and August, she has an effect on people. So its quite possible that her magical nature drew in these guys to her, because its not HER as in her personality, as much as it is WHAT she is, but with Neal? He had no idea of that side of her as they were in the Land Without Magic and he did NOT know her destiny. Even the concept of her destiny wouldn’t have attracted him, had he known because he so wanted to get away from magic at the time. Once he knew her though, he had such pure love for her that even with all the obstacles, he couldn’t let go of the hope entirely (and it seems to me she felt the same). He will use magic and cross worlds, even be a bit pushy about using an adorable kid to lure a magical shadow–but he’s still not going to kill people in cold blood to get to her or Henry. His love for her seems to me to be pure, and for her as a person. Her love for him parallels it too–she would do a lot for him, despite thinking all these bad things, knowing his father is the Dark One, but she’s not quite at the last point he is of having that faith that they can beat destiny to be together.
It’s not like Neal can find just any girl who’d tolerate his father being what he was, and (because I think the Regina not seeing Henry thing will be fixed) his son’s adopted mother/step-grandma being what she was–nor Emma just any guy to not just put up with it, but to be happy in that situation. Emma wants Henry to have his family that love him, no matter who they are and what they’ve done. As long as they DO love him and you know, won’t try to take his heart or kill him or something like that!
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
I know, its pretty dark, but it was a play on the idea that Hook does love Neal, just like Regina loved her father–but just not enough as there’s something they wanted more. Plus Hook has been written in this way that whenever he does something harmful, there’s this offsetting fate or circumstance to it. Rumple’s the Dark One and not innocent, same with trying to kill Cora, he shoots Belle but she gets her memories back anyway, locks Emma & CO–but they escape. It’s always the way with him that even if what it seems he’s doing is far from honorable (hitting charming from behind with a lead pipe?) the harm of it is offset–so if it were Hook to do it more likely it wouldn’t stick 🙂 I can’t think of any other main character that would have someone they love (but just not enough)to do Dark Curse part 2–but of course who knows where/when everyone is or if there’s a dark curse cast at all.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
