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moraha wrote: I hope she’ll be able to make a decision without Neal putting her under pressure – and that he’ll respect that decision.
I hope so too but not likely.
GAH I hope three! I really don’t want him to continue down the Rumple route like he has… I want him to have his own unique character arc and not be paralleling his father or being a reason for curses etc.
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@Captain Eala, let me give you a cyber hug.
Awwww thanks obisgirl!!! 🙂 *returns hug*
I agree with everything you said and I’m sorry about what your mom went through too. ST ‘shippers who say stuff like that, Emma choosing Hook is the easy choice, clearly, are only looking out for one-half of their ‘ship. Neal and have a twisted view of how Emma factors into the pairing as a whole.
Thanks, I just needed to use that example because this is one of the main reasons why I view Swanfire as so unhealthy, and to both parties. Because if Emma goes back to Neal it validates all of his Rumple-esque behaviour, such as, using a recent example, using a toddler to get to NL. He needs someone to bring out the best in him, something Emma has never been able to do, which oddly (lol not really) enough she does with Killian. He needs a Belle.
I agree that most SF shippers seem to be Neal stans before Emma stans, which is fine. But this “triangle” is all about Emma and her Happy Ending. Not Neal’s. And I also think that they’re ignoring the fact that Killian has been doing his level best to make Emma happy whereas Neal has done almost always the precise opposite. Now i’m not saying he tries to be selfish, but there really is no escaping that he is.
Whatever about the jail thing, it’s been hacked to death, but Neal left Emma. He left her, and it was for more than just getting her back to her family. He wanted to put distance between him and Rumple. His reaction in “Manhattan” speaks to that: “You brought him to me? Why would you do that?” – that is clear framing of the narrative right there. Neal demands that she break her deal with Rumple in order to keep his distance from his father, despite KNOWING what Rumple does to people who break deals. Sure he came back to help her in his apartment, but the fact is his first impulse was to be selfish. Neal decided not to go to SB to give Emma an explanation of why he abandoned her because he was afraid of his father. Neal doesn’t take into consideration how painful it could be for Emma to have Tamara in SB – he only thinks of his own needs “I need her”.He doesn’t think about how hard or demeaning it is on Emma when he disparages her theories about Tamara and her lie-detecting ability.
I’m sure there are many more examples but these are established FIRMLY in canon. Some of the above could also be classified as being inconsiderate/cowardly – but those are forms of selfishness IMO.
For me, the reason I ‘ship CS is because I care equally about Emma and Killian’s happiness. I care about both of them as characters. I love their stories and how perfectly, they mirror each other. I love them both.
I love both too, I really do, especially after this season. I would definitely consider myself a Killian stan too, although he’s a fingers breadth lower than my love for Emma, but he’s been climbing all the time this season so I think I will love both of them equally soon enough. I was dying for both of them in Ariel – but again, Killian a bit less than Emma. For all that Killian is good, Captain Hook did some bad things. I accept that, I accept his flaws, and the fact that some were born from love helps too. But Neal fans constantly gloss over all of his bad treatment of Emma. It really annoys me, because the way he treated Emma was not true love in the slightest. Killian supports Emma. Charming supports Snow. Neal drags Emma down. Another thing that annoys me that SF shippers ignore and like MysteryKat was talking about – Emma regards her time with Neal as shameful. Not as something she wants to remember.
Emma and Killian’s journey is not going to be an easy one. They are going to face obstacles (most likely, Neal).
Heck no, but that’s what’s going to make it fun right?? 🙂 The whole CaptainFire relationship is going to make things complicated, and there’ll be resentment etc. but how I want it to end is by Neal accepting that Emma’s choice is Killian, the way he didn’t accept that Milah’s choice was Killian. Bae basically accused Killian of killing Milah himself – he’s in complete and utter denial that his father is the one who killed his mother (evidenced by the fact that Neal has never brought it up with Rumple) and so if Neal acknowledges Emma’s choice in Killian that would be a HECK of a lot of welcome character growth for him.
Henry will most likely be a voicer of objections to CS too.
She’s actually making the difficult choice to move on because you never forget about your first love. A part of Emma will always love Neal but Emma also recognizes it’s unhealthy for her in the long run to continue clinging to the past.
YES
He’ll happily cause her more pain if it means she’ll give in and give him another chance.
I don’t know about the “happily” part to be honest, like I was saying above he isn’t malicious about being selfish, but it’s certainly there, and yes, he’s pretty much saying “you’re not going to get rid of me” and not listening to what she said. Not putting her needs first. Not putting her happiness above all else. Which is what a certain other person is doing 😉
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’m getting a bit confused by people saying that Killian put pressure on Emma by telling her how he felt in the cave – that it wasn’t fair of him to drop all of that information on her when she has already been through so much and is worried about Henry. Did I miss something?? How was he at ALL in control of what his secret was? It wasn’t like he could choose what he wanted to reveal – it was supposed to be his darkest secret. And I don’t see how his secret puts any pressure on her anyway. Emma has clearly had the upper hand with Hook all along
I’m all ranted out, but yeah basically what you said.They’re trying to find reasons to dislike Killian even after Good Form and the fact that he’s fighting for Emma’s happiness EVERY STEP OF THE WAY (especially loved the way he IMMEDIATELY brought up saving Henry when they left they Echo Cave – he knows that Emma is consumed with worry for him). I’m sure we’ll be hearing YET MORE soon with the whole upcoming CaptainFire dynamic of the repetitive argument about how Killian abandoned Bae and how come we don’t hate on Killian for that when we hate on Neal for abandoning Emma? Well, I hate on Neal for doing it because, you know, Emma does, and also because it was, you know, WRONG. As Neal himself knows.
I’m glad he acknowledged that he put her through a lot – that made sense, but instead of saying he was never going to stop fighting for her (which I still insist makes ZERO sense since he never STARTED), wouldn’t it have been better for him to have told her that he will always love her too, or that he will always be there for her and Henry, or that he is going to make up for the pain he caused her, or that he is going to do everything he can to make sure he doesn’t hurt her again??
100% agreed, a more appropriate “secret” would have been:
“Emma, I love you, and if you think that there’s a possible chance for us, i’ll fight for it.”
But instead he completely ignored what she said and didn’t emotionally compromise himself in any way whatsoever despite the fact that the other just had to save him and they were (seemingly) alone.
Fellow shipmates, I LOVE you all – but sometimes you just write too much.
Lol, sorry, not sorry 😉
The “big reunion”?! That was Emma telling Neal that she doesn’t want to get back together with him.
YEP pretty much, though of course the other side are stubbornly denying this it seems. They got 3 minutes of screen time for goodness sake.
I was in so much pain, mates
mE ToO
I want her to be happy so so so much – she told MM that she was feeling good before the kiss! HUGE!
YES IT REALLY IS ISN’T IT
So happy today after all the killing off Hook talk! Captain Swan is here and is gonna be a big part of the story that’s told going forward
I LOVE THIS GIF
“Also, just because someone truly loves someone [on Eddy saying that Emma loves Neal], it doesn’t mean they wind up together.”
— Adam Horowitz
YUP
And also this:
“I think that in all life there are the people that are right for you and there are the people that are wrong for you. Then there are the people you just choose.”
– Eddy Kitsis
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am highly confident at this point based on absolutely everything (especially from this episode!) that CS is endgame.
Yay!!!!!!!!!! 🙂
I’m basically to the point that if SF is a modern day fairy tale I don’t want one. EVER.
PREACH
I’ve seen some say that if she chooses Hook she’s taking the easy way out but hasn’t she suffered enough?
HOLD
THE
PHONE
What BS is this? No really, they’re actually saying that?
In what way is letting go of your painful past easy? In what way is letting go of the man whom you love easy? In what way is letting go of the father of your child easy? In what way is letting go of your first love easy? In what way is ANY of what Emma’s going through easy? In what way would taking a leap of faith be easy? In what way would letting go of what’s familiar to embrace what’s unknown be easy?
I’m literally shaking with anger right now. Because if they’re equating Emma choosing Killian as the “easy” way, then they’re equating Emma choosing Neal as the “hard” way. Which brings to mind this quote from Albus Dumbledore:
We must all face the choice between what is right, and what is easy.
SO BASICALLY, THEY’RE SAYING THAT EMMA CHOOSING NEAL IS THE “RIGHT” WAY? That’s how i’m reading it! I mean, DO THEY LISTEN TO THEMSELVES????? I mean, this is yet another freaking way that they are trying to detract from her choice, because if Emma chooses Killian, then they aren’t going to respect her decision, because it’s not the “hard” choice, it’s not the “right” choice. That is basically what they’re saying. And they call themselves Emma fans???????
And I’m about to get shouty and ranty right now.
I’M TAKING THIS FREAKING PERSONALLY OKAY
My parents had the relationship where my mother was physically and emotionally abused. My mother had to make the hard decision to LEAVE my father. AND IT WAS REALLY HARD. SHE LOVED HIM. AND WHILE I’M NOT SAYING THAT NEAL WAS OVERTLY AGGRESSIVE WITH EMMA, HE STILL CAUSED HER PAIN. HUGE EMOTIONAL PAIN, JUST LIKE MY FATHER CAUSED MY MOTHER. So basically, to me THEY ARE ADVOCATING THAT MY MOTHER SHOULD HAVE “FACED” and “GOTTEN OVER” THAT PAIN LIKE A GOOD LITTLE WIMP BECAUSE SHE LOVED HIM.
JUST BECAUSE YOU LOVE SOMEONE DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE TO BE EMOTIONALLY AND PHYSICALLY INTIMATE WITH THEM.
So much for feminism.
And so help me if they say “oh, but Neal left Emma for her own good” I AM GOING TO THROW SOMETHING BECAUSE HE ALSO LEFT HER FOR HIMSELF. AND AS OF 3X06, IT’S FAIRLY FREAKING CLEAR THAT HE UNDERSTANDS WHAT HE DID WAS WRONG.
/Rant over
Honestly, i am losing respect for ANY AND ALL SF arguments right now, not that I took them all that seriously to being with. OMG. *takes deep breaths* Their arguments are supercilious and pathetic in my opinion. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
In what world should Emma EVER have to “get over” that pain??????? Why shouldn’t she be selfish with her choice and choose to be happy?????? ROAR
*lets out breath* *calms down*
If Emma chose Neal, if she felt that she COULD get over her pain, then I would respect her decision. Now, she isn’t going to, but I would respect her decision, because I love Emma Swan like no character I’ve ever loved. And especially if Neal stopped making Rumplestilskin-esque choices and had his own character arc.
I’ve seen some on tumblr say that we are being hypocritical because:
Killian:
A man unwilling to fight for what he wants, deserves what he gets.
and Neal:
I’ll never stop fighting for you. Never.
It. Is. Not. The. Same.
For one thing, Neal NEVER fought for Emma’s love. NEVER. EVER. Sure, he talks about it a lot. But i have seen no evidence that he’s actually done it. HE WAS A COWARD. HE ADMITTED IT HIMSELF IN 3X01, THAT HE NEVER FOUGHT FOR HER. THIS IS A CANON FACT.
Secondly, what he said was completely ignoring Emma’s own stated wishes and feelings, which she had also REITERATED. Emma wants to put him and her pain behind her and move. on.
Thirdly, Killian is fighting for Emma’s wishes in the purest sense, because he is fighting for her happiness above all else.
So when Neal says “i’ll never stop fighting for you” it’s in COMPLETE CONTRAST to Killian, and you can see from her face that it’s the LAST thing she wants to hear. The “I love you, I probably always will”, was immediately followed by her saying she wished he was dead and that she wants to move on. Look, we’ve all said it already, we’re all in complete agreement. What he said basically said was that he didn’t care about her wishes or the fact that she’s expressed a desire for closure. He wants to get her back, he want’s to act in the best interests of his OWN HAPPINESS. HE’S SELFISH.
I know i’m preaching to the choir here. Just, ugh, i needed to get that out.
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The camera shows Emma’s face and she is clearly emotionally affected and then, while the camera is still on ONLY Emma, unexpectedly the earth moves!
Yeah, hehe, I saw that! Hopefully something A+E included as a little joke 😉
Emma: When I heard you might be here, that you might still be alive, I knew I should be happy but I wasn’t. I was terrified. I didn’t know why until now. So up until the cave Snow has been saying all kinds of things under the assumption that Neal is her happy ending. She has been telling her not to give up hope that he is still alive, blah, blah, blah. Then we find out that Emma was feeling pretty good when she kissed Killian but then instead of being happy like Snow assumed she would be, when she found out Neal was alive, she was terrified.
Yep, there was no “hope” there that he’d be alive – she didn’t WANT to find out that he lived.
It didn’t make sense that she used the word “WE” because as far as I can tell she and Neal never went through any pain together.
To be honest, I think she IS talking about her and Neal there. And I do think there was pain there on both sides.
Now, I don’t think it’s at all the SAME pain, and by no means as intense on Neal’s part, since he was the one that got to make all the choices and knew what was going on. I think it hurt Neal to send her to jail because he thought that it was the “right” thing to do, and then I think it hurt him when he realised how wrong he was. And I do think he genuinely understands that, because, (and kudos for him for allowing her to release all her pain without making her feel bad about it) he wouldn’t have been so understanding if he hadn’t realised that what he did to her was wrong. Like, I know I rag on Neal a lot, but I do accept that he has SOME good points, even if I don’t know how people can ship Swanfire when it’s such an unhealthy, destructive relationship.
Anyway, I do think that Emma is fantastic there when she grants him equivalent pain, it’s pretty generous. Honestly, I don’t know how that girl hasn’t had a breakdown yet, an incapacitating one, I really don’t.
NOW ON TO SPOILER PICTURES EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
We’re getting a CS conversation, alone!!!!!!!!!!! So excited to see what’s said. The conversation looks pretty intense. 🙂
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Lol, just saw this on tumblr and had to share:
Me: I feel kind of bad for Hook after this last episode.
Mum: Why? He loves Emma, and she’s clearly not going back to Neal. I think he’s Emma’s true love.
Me: But he doesn’t know that she’s not going back to Neal, he heard Neal tell Emma he’d never stop fighting for her.
Mum: Can’t stop what you never started.
Buuuuuurn. Hehe.
@obisgirl – thanks for the reassurance haha, not that we needed it! 😉Keeper of Captain Swan's first kiss
Okay I have some time to go through some thoughts.
So basically we bookended the episode with Hook doing his best to NOT give her false hope and being willing to go off and rescue Neal with Charming’s help to make sure that Pan wasn’t lying (even though he hasn’t been), and we ended it with Neal saying he could definitely get them out of NL which is what everybody is counting on him doing, only he JUST learned not long ago that he DIDN’T escape, Pan LET him go. *throws something*
I have to say, this glaring omission bothered me too. Not as much as his “nevergoingtostopfightingforyouneverdidimentioniwon’tleaveyoualoneeventhoughyouwanttomoveon* though. Anyway, i’m fairly sure that he WON’T be getting them back home. I think we’re going to see the sextant and the JR flying to get them home. But that could just be shipper goggles…. i certainly WANT that to happen… lol.
funny how both Hook’s and Emma’s secrets were about wanting to move on and find a new love and get over their 1st loves…
Lol, i know right?… it’s almost as if they’re kindred spirits, understand one another, are TL etc.
Secondly, she just told him how much pain she felt seeing him and how she wants to move on so he made it all about him and how he doesn’t want to let her go.
Yup, this is pretty much how we’re seeing it too. Of course SFers think it’s romantic. BS, in my opinion.
Before this Neal has been “I didn’t get to tell her I love her when I should have” (which makes NO sense since he’s said it back when she’s said it before
YES i made this point a few pages back. In the cave SHE TOLD HIM SHE LOVED HIM and he didn’t say it back. What happened to all the regrets, eh Neal? What happened?
This was absolutely deliberate on the part of the writers. I mean, if there was EVER a time for Neal to make his declaration, it was then. It could have been made romantic in a way. Nothing that could negate Emma’s pain obviously, but SOMETHING to start Swanfire in the right direction again. But that wasn’t the writers intention, and the writers, by the way, were Adam and Eddy themselves. This was hyped up to be a Swanfire reunion episode, but it wasn’t actually about them, it was about Emma’s and Killian’s reactions to the reunion, as evidenced by the focus on their emotional reactions to everything.
Neal is soon going to see the connection between Emma and Killian, and then he will probably pipe up with “I love you Emma!”. But it will be absolutely meaningless now, because he didn’t say it when he first saw her, didn’t say it when he felt that she was still “his” (because she did say she loved him at the portal).
This episode, with the parallel of Emma and Milah, just kind of backs up for me the whole possible Neal-going-dark theory. The triangle seems to be directly paralleling that of Milah/Rumple/Killian. I’m hoping that Neal will be the one to eventually break the cycle if this happens – by accepting Emma’s choice. Anyway, this is just speculation, but I believe his reaction to the CS kiss will show which way his character is going to go.
She just said her deepest darkest secret is that she wishes you were dead so she wouldn’t have to relive all that pain you put her through and she wants to move on with her life and put you behind her (way to go Emma!), and ALL you can say about it is you’re not gonna give her up?
YES. She may have said it pretty politely, but she still explicity said that she hoped he was dead rather than have him back in her life. I mean, she even then REITERATED what she said outside the cave when she said she can’t change how she feels. Not won’t – can’t, implying that even if she wanted to, she isn’t able to.
Neal is basically saying “I’m never gonna leave you alone or let you choose.”
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS I SAID I FELT HE HAD SAID THAT TOO. The whole “never going to stop fighting for you” just came off as very creepy, very pushy, very possessive to me.
It’s going to be soooo interesting to see how he reacts to the CS kiss.
I WANNA KNOW WHAT EMMA WAS ABOUT TO SAY!
ME TOO *whimpers*
I mean..how was this supposed to be a bad CS episode?
Lol – it wasn’t, it went waaaaaaaaaay more in our favour actually 🙂
THE TRIANGLE is more about past vs future than it is about the two guys. Otherwise there’s not much point to it, especially in a season where they’re confronting their pasts and moving forward.
ABSO-FREAKING-LUTELY it’s what we’ve been saying all along!!!
Tallahassee set up the triangle but it wasn’t Hook vs Neal, it was Emma dealing with her past and whether she’d let it continue to destroy her future.
YES YOU’RE ON A ROLL WOMAN
Both guys can talk until they’re blue in the face but as of right now, only one is saying “I want you to be happy no matter how much it hurts me” and I think we ALL know which one that is.
YES MYSTERYKAT YES. Am i right in thinking all your doubts about CS being endgame are gone???? 😉
We expect him to fight for what he wants but I think his fighting for it is very subtle: he’s letting his actions speak for him.
Absolutely. At this point, I think Killian is going to waaaay back off until he sees that Neal can’t/won’t make Emma happy. I said this before some time back. He respects her choices, and at the moment he is seeing Neal as her choice. I mean, far from stopping them from being together, he facilitated it. But the minute Emma acknowledges her feelings for him, to him, he’s going to fight for her. If she wants him, he will defend her choice, and i’d expect nothing less.
The way they framed everything showing Hook’s pain in all of this shows me more than ever that Neal is the OBSTACLE for CaptainSwan and not the other way around. Otherwise they would have had the caves echo so that everyone would hear everyone’s secrets, and we would have been shown Neal’s reaction to what Hook said to Emma.
Yesyesyesyesyes
But the Emma we met in S1 was very adamant that actions speak louder than words, making a CHOICE means something, and that going back to someone you didn’t really want to be with was the “safe” and “easy” choice (when talking about Graham and Regina) but not the RIGHT choice.
*GROSS SOBBING* we’ve been saying this, and we know choice is a CS theme, and you’re killing me
I’ve seen so many say that Hook losing the girl to Neal would be “character growth” for him, for handing her over and not “keeping” her like he did with Milah and I just want to throw something.
Ugh. Anyone who says that Killian should back off because of Bae is ridiculous, he’ll back off if Neal is Emma’s choice, but not otherwise. And it just goes to show that a lot of the people who say that? ….are just like Neal and want to take away people’s agency and detract from their choices. Not to mention that it would be totally OOC if Killian backs off. It’s not Killian’s responsibility to make Neal happy, that’s Neal’s job. Killian’s character does NOT revolve around Bae or Milah anymore. It revolves around Emma, and by extension, the Charmings, Regina, Henry and Neal. It would be a complete character regression if he were to back off because of his history with Neal, and I have faith that A+E don’t write bad characters (apart from Neal, but convinced that’s deliberate).
It would be completely out of character to revert back to her 17 year old self and eliminate who she is now when that’s actually appreciated by someone who is done living in the past and is right in front of her. Especially since she just admitted that she wants to put the past behind her and that would be easier to do with Neal dead. (Sorry but big epic reunion of TL shouldn’t be “I wish you were dead” – not exactly something to root for when we’ve seen everybody else FALL APART when their TL is perceived to be dead). One of these things is not like the other…. VIVA LA CAPTAIN SWAN!
*raises rum flask to MysteryKat*
Another thing i just want to mention very quickly:
Killian’s declaration of love. He didn’t say “I love you” but it was CLEARLY implied, and anyone who says otherwise… may need to get their brain rewired. Anyway, I just wanted to emphasise that he didn’t actually use the words “I love you” for a reason – A+E are keeping it for a big moment.
I CANNOT WAIT.
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@MysteryKat – loved your thoughts, especially the Han and Leia parallels which I hadn’t even noticed!!!!! 🙂
I got annoyed in the chat early when people kept insisting that Hook is the character to die because Colin is getting his own pilot or they just want Hook dead
LOL! I mean, did they miss the part where the producers and the fans LOVE Colin and that he brought up the ratings from 3×04? Did they miss the fact that Colin said he hopes to play Hook for “a long time”? Did they miss the fact that (apparently!) Colin moved his family to Vancouver to do the show? I mean, that’s not something you do lightly. And, being an Irish person myself, there aren’t many of us who enjoy the limelight (like 99% of us really), so I think Colin would FAR prefer to do a show where the limelight is shared among many main characters than to have a show where he himself is the main forerunner.
Also if people (i’m assuming STers) want Hook to die, then they’re having, you know, VERY serious doubts about their own ship. Which they should. Cos… er…. it’s not going so well. Having Hook die and Emma getting with Neal that way would be a VERY cheap way to show TL. Just saying.
ALSO if these people want Hook to die then it just reiterates to me that they don’t care about Emma at all. One thing i’m so proud of is that all CSers obviously all HUGE Emma fans (I’m a huge Killian fan too but Emma – she’s first and foremost for me). But the other ships… well…. if they want Hook to die, don’t they see that this would be nothing more than a HUGE emotional set-back for Emma? I mean, do they WANT Emma to suffer any more than she already has? Clearly they don’t think or care about her one whit.
And I find it funny that we’ve all said here (well maybe not you @obisgirl lol) that we want Neal to have his happy ending, but not with Emma. I mean, we don’t want Neal to die, because, like I said, that would be a cheap victory for CS. In fact the only one who seems to want Neal dead is…. er…. Emma herself. A.w.k.w.a.r.d.
I’ll move past it though I really hope Captain Swan can win I keep thinking that the fanbase at large will support us but I guess it’s unrealistic to think people will actually think show before ship, it’ll be on the strength of our fellow shipmates!
It’s sad, but yeah, unrealistic. I mean, we can try our best but the truth is we’re up against very strong competition! The fact that we got nominated is something i’m absolutely delighted with anyway, and it’s something that will warm me everytime I think about it.
I don’t understand how people can still hate on Hook after seeing his backstory in “Good Form.” I guess ST’ers feel threatened that they’re ‘shipping a dying ‘ship. which they are..
Unfortunately for them, yes. I do feel sorry for them, but… er… the clues are all there and we’ve been spotting them for a looooooong time. We’ve interpreted everything correctly 9 out of 10 times, whereas they’ve interpreted everything Incorrectly about 9 out of 10 times. I see no reason for that to change. So when the time comes and CS is proven to be TL, I won’t be feeling much sympathy. Especially after all the bullying we’re getting.
On a different subject, the most ridiculous rumor I’ve seen pop up is that we paid People’s Choice Awards to nominate Hook/Emma for Best On-Screen Chemistry. It’s a big joke on tumblr right now, how we bribed them.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH YES BECAUSE WE’VE ALL GOT MONEY TO BURN *takes breath* AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
If Neal & Emma were supposed to be together, then Neal & Emma’s lives would NOT have improved after Neal left Emma, but both of their lives (from what we have seen), did improve- Neal eventually moved on & was going to settle down with Tamara, Emma gave up crime & became a bail bonds person, then found her family etc. Neal comes back into the picture & she becomes unhappy again, Neal exits from her life again & she begins to become happier again/starts smiling – despite still struggling to find Henry (evidenced by her ‘I was feeling good’ line). Neal comes back into her life again & boom, Emma is upset …. again (& so is Killian) *sigh*
^^^^^^^THIS. Such a good point. And I totally get what you’re feeling – I watched Good Form and Ariel back to back last night and it was painful. To see Emma going from playful, challenging, “feeling good”, taking a break for one MINUTE from all her worries to an Emma who was miserable, wanted her first love to be dead, and in so much pain…. AGH.
IT
HURTS
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I’ve been voting often over the last hr & will do so whenever I’m online (CS deserves a fighting chance at winning)- but even getting nominated is huge! I mean not even Snowing got nominated & they are supposed to be the main couple of the show & in real life lol!
AND especially when you consider that all the other couples that were nominated are LONG ESTABLISHED as canon and CS is only just getting started.
*scoffs* when I think about how we were being called delusional time and again….
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