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Neal might be starting to realize that Emma isn’t the same one he’s had in his head all this time
Yeah, I forgot to mention this too. And I think Neal is starting to realise where it’s at. He says at the end something along the lines of “we had Henry, something good came from us” and Emma basically agrees. I really hope he acknowledges her choice in Killian. It would be superb character growth for him. It’s what I always wanted – and so far it seems to be going that way.
*sigh* we’re getting a lot of things like “Killian is putting pressure on Emma”
Well they can talk about that all they like because that scene? Was supposed to be romantic. It was staged to be romantic. And it was. The CS theme, the body language, the talking with their eyes, Emma smiling again, Emma seeking reassurance and Killian giving it! All romantic.
I just don’t get why some people are constantly trying to devalue her choices…
This was an episode where EMMA SWAN got stuff done and saved the two men in her life. She isn’t going to allow ANYONE to put pressure on her.
CAN’T WAIT FOR NEXT WEEK
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@MysteryKat – loved all of that! A very detailed summary!
I’d like to add some thoughts of my own.
Storybrooke:
LOVED EVERYTHING nothing to say except that I really missed Grumpy and his sass.
CaptainFire:
Thought their interactions were hilarious. Lol, I loved the childish fighting. HIGHLY amusing. And loved Emma’s reaction to it all.
Neal and Swanfire:
I’m going to preface this by saying that due to Neal not (really) lashing out at Killian or Emma for the kiss I don’t think he’s going down the “path of darkness”. Eventually, he’s going to accept Emma’s choice in Killian. His arc is with his father this season IMO, and looking forward to happy Rumple/Baelfire moments.
I try to like him. I do. But every episode just… ugh. The snarking about how Emma doesn’t need the sword because now she’s got the real thing? Very classy Neal. Did you hear anything she said in the last episode??? She doesn’t want reminders of you OR you back in her life. Breaking up the CS moment when i’m pretty sure it would have led to another kiss (ok so I just really wanted another kiss, I know it’s not his fault, doesn’t stop me from being irrationally annoyed at him though). VERY obviously not thrilled with Emma’s use of her magic. This is in contrast to Killian supporting her every stop of the way – “I’ve never seen you fail”. And the, ugh, taking credit of catching the shadow. Because, that’s kind of what he did tbh. This is in contrast to Killian in 3×05 who came back to camp after saving David’s life and didn’t want credit. But whatever. I go back to what I said a couple of weeks back – Neal (as well as Emma) is his own obstacle to SF. IT’S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.
Captain Swan:
YET ANOTHER AMAZING EPISODE FOR US.
So, er, basically Emma has already picked Killian. She just doesn’t know it yet.
Body language: In the scene where they’re talking alone, Killian moves right into Emma’s personal space. And yet again, she doesn’t back away. Like, it’s so telling. If you’re not attracted to someone, you’re going to move backwards, whether consciously or unconsciously. We had a fluttering of her eyelashes, a heaving of her chest, a flicker to his lips. All very obvious. And breathy voice again – the whispering of “this is not a contest, Hook”. Since WHEN does Emma whisper? When she lays down the law, she does it strongly and with conviction.
Trust: She looks to Killian to tell her about Dark Hollow when Neal brought it up. Huge. She stops Killian and asks him what the tension between him and Neal was, trusting he’d tell the truth. Huge.
Honesty: Wow, I wish all guys were so upfront and honest. Killian is the very definition of TL conquers all, because it conquers all his vulnerabilities, which are numerous as we know. So he tells her his intentions – which he has been doing all along. He is trying to figure out if he has a chance with the woman he loves. And she in turn, doesn’t shut him down. Doesn’t say that there’s no chance. She is then open and vulnerable with him, knowing she’ll get an honest answer. He supports her, and tells her that he’s never seen her fail. It is this kind of support that completely reminds me of Charming with Snow. *sigh* CS are perfect in every way.
Shadow scene: Wow. The placing in this scene was so obvious. Killian is thrown against a tree right in front of where Emma is, and she can’t see Neal. The scene was written so that Emma could see Killian and ONLY Killian. They wanted us to see Emma’s reaction to him being in danger “HOOK!” and they wanted us to see Emma’s reaction to him being safe again (exhalation of relief). Killian is Emma’s future. Neal is Emma’s past. They placed Neal behind Emma, symbolising that she’s leaving the past behind.
Don’t even get me started on the magic. I’m pretty sure it was born from her love and concern for Killian.
That’s it for now. I’m sure more thoughts will come with more rewatching!!!
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WELL THAT EPISODE WAS AMAZING
HAHAHAHAHA
THOUGHTS TO FOLLOW AFTER REWATCH
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P.S. What we were effectively doing last night was one of us was streamlining tweets by just adding a number while the other retweeting it’s a good tactic I think.
Yeah, I saw a Klaine shipper doing that and they were on number 210 or something! It’s really hard to tell how much of a chance we have. But I have literally voted at least 400 times for CS today, and want to do 400 more if I can (that mobile site is so freaking easy to vote with)
I probably won’t make the voting party for the simple reason that I have to sleep and once I start fangirling about the latest ep I can’t go back to sleep so I have to sleep BEFORE the episode
MY LIFE REVOLVES AROUND A FICTIONAL COUPLE
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I have been voting and voting and voting for CS like a maniac!!! My hand is about to fall off! I’m doing it listening to the song on my favourite current CS vid:
@Stelio – you’re doing a lot of twitter votes, any idea how the other ships are doing? I know we’re probably losing out to Delena/Klaine/Caskett but I want to know 🙂 I wouldn’t mind if we lost to them since all of those shows are in their 5+ seasons!
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Because we’re all Oncers and you’re painting everyone on a different ship with the same brush.
I’m sorry, that wasn’t what I intended! I called them “haters” and I thought that was enough of a distinction. Like I said, I don’t consider anyone on this site to be haters. But I will take it to tumblr if I need to rant and rave in future in order to avoid any more hurt on your part.
SFers do it because (OH SHOCK) they get the hate too!
I thought you might. It just seems to have stepped up a gear for us this season, ESPECIALLY with the nomination for best on-screen chemistry.
I *know* we read each others posts and that we respond to them in our own threads.
Honestly, I don’t, because I know you guys on this site are intelligent and bring up great arguments, so I avoid the SF thread here like the plague because I want to live in blissful ignorance. But in fairness, the CS side DO get some normal SF shippers who bring over their arguments in a polite way so i’m aware of both good and bad points that the SF side bring up.
My point, overall here, is not to make anyone feel bad because I love you all. My point is respect. Pure, simple respect.
No more laughing at insulting picture-related tension-relief, promise!
I’m sorry that your flow of conversation got interrupted and I apologize if I seem harsh or unfair.
You don’t. In turn, I would also like to apologise if anything I say/said seems/seemed harsh or unfair. I have a tendency to speak before I think sometimes and get caught up in excitement or anger very easily, which is why a lot of the time i’m shouting or forgetting to spoil things out. SORRY!
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I have allowed you guys to fangirl/guy out over spoilers without trying to be a cruel and demand that they be covered up. I have spoiled tagged posts over and over without issuing warnings.
Also – thanks for that….
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Therefore, imagine my surprise, horror, anger, and downright HURT when the first thing I discover this morning while doing my morning forum check are posts/posters calling the other side “stupid” and “jackass” which goes against the ship and let ship AND the respect rule to such an absurd extent that I am currently having trouble forming words. PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW CALLING SOMEONE STUPID OR A JACKASS IS KEEPING INLINE WITH THE RULES OF THIS FORUM.
RG – I don’t think it was intended to hurt you or any of the shippers on this forum. You’re not haters!
I thought they were funny only because of all the hate myself and my fellow CS shippers have been getting elsewhere, and with silly arguments like the one I cited above (that Neal is the Westley to Emma’s buttercup) that have absolutely no foundation in canon, or have even less foundation than our arguments. It’s a way to relieve the tension of the hate.
I am just honestly fed up of the hate that I and some of my friends get sometimes on a daily basis and this is a great place to argue/state some of my thought’s against what they say, because I do not engage the haters when they come to my inbox on tumblr.
Again, no disrespect intended towards any shippers on this site, you don’t randomly come into this thread and spew hatred at us, and we don’t do it to you guys! It’s one of the things I love about the site.
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I’d hope there isnt any or many septic CS fans out there atm!
I’m sure there are unfortunately!
The buttercup flower thing fits so perfectly (if that is what is, which seems a given at this point- due to all the PB parallels) & it’s pretty much nailed CS ship firmly into endgame for me now
It hasn’t been confirmed yet, it might never be, and there are some inconsistencies, such as the flower being the same as the one on Charming’s family crest which I think is white, BUT saying that there are white buttercups:
Honestly though, there has been no other flower associated with the show so far and this would just fit perfectly if it IS a buttercup. *sigh* we can dream though!
I love CS and would ship them regardless of endgame-ness but I knew CS were endgame the MINUTE Killian gave up his revenge and came back for Emma. In 2×09 he said he wouldn’t have abandoned her and in 2×22 he PROVED it. I had my doubts over the summer because it was SO. LONG. – such as the TL music being played when Emma told Neal she loved him in 2×21. But Adam clarified that – “just because someone truly loves someone does not mean they end up together”. But seriously, this season so far has only made me more and more sure of them being TL. It’s going to be a bumpy journey and i’m sure my babies will have some awful times ahead but I KNOW they’re going to come out on top and be proven TL.
Infinity % confidence 😉
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LOL – love those @surayya! Let them hate, we know who’s going to win out in the end! I don’t intentionally read their stuff, but they come over to CS shippers on tumblr and spew their hate everywhere and make genuinely stupid arguments (I heard some of them were saying that Neal was the Westley to Emma’s Buttercup???? WHAT? No doubt threatened over the comparison WE made of the flower tattoo. Idiots) and contradict themselves, ignore dialogue in scenes, ignore things stated IN CANON and by writers and actors and generally just behave badly.
I just honestly wonder how we’re all watching the same show sometimes.
Even though we know what’s going on tonight, SO EXCITED because we seem to be missing some key points in the recap. Also, tones of voice, body language, facial expressions…. EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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