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It could be argued that some things can’t ever be forgotten. Snow will never forget the fact that she never got to raise Emma, Emma won’t forget the fact she grew up in the system without any parents, they’ve forgiven Regina but they won’t forget it. Regina’s past misdeeds shouldn’t be whitewashed, just because she’s not going to be “punished” for them doesn’t mean she can’t feel some remorse for them.
I don’t think this is about whitewashing or forgetting anything. But rather about atonement and forgiveness within the frames of a fairy tale. Snow hasn’t forgotten the bad things Regina did to her, but she hasn’t forgotten that Regina started off saving her life either. Emma hasn’t forgotten that Regina has saved their arses numerous times since they met – including being willing to sacrifice herself (as in 2.22). Regina will never forget Daniels’s death as she is also acutely aware of the bad things she has done. Regina does feel a lot of remorse and it haunts her in a way that makes her sometimes want to give in to her old impulses because she sees no hope. It was initially the loss of love and hope and a heavy influence from Cora and Rumple that drove Regina mad. In all likelihood she withstood the pressure for longer than Snow would have done had the roles been reversed. Because from the beginning, Regina was actually more selfless than Snow – and Snow knows it. There’s nothing black and white about this. When and where does the scorecard even begin?
[adrotate group="5"]3. I think the whole OQ ship is already too messy and screwed up as it is without adding a further complication to the mix. I blame the writers on that one, if only they hadn’t made Regina Marian’s murderer. Emma is a possibility …
Well….technically….it’s just a cruel twist of fate Regina was Marian’s murderer which is no longer active, so I really wish people will forgive and forget just as Marian has….geez, Regina’s saved her life twice! … ! Emma can’t be a possibility because as far as we know now…she hasn’t slept with Hook. Robin and Regina’s pregnant storyline would be much more interesting considering they seem to have a “lost” history that we have not seen. Also due to the fact, the Evil Queen being pregnant would most likely cause her powers to be weakened a little and we have the Queens of Darkness coming, all whose she’s trifled against before, so there’s that issue. I think having Regina really not able to fight the Queens of Darkness as she did Peter Pan and Zelena will force Emma to the forefront because she has nobody who can just handle this one, because Regina’s magic is weak while pregnant, and Rumple is evil, so Emma will have to just come forward and be the Savior she was born to be.
I agree with what you say about Marian, WickedRegal. The time travel changed the past – and Regina has done everything she can to make up for it. Over and done with. And I think OQ is ultimately a beautiful story, albeit complicated.
About a possible pregnancy weakening Regina’s powers. Maybe. But it could do the opposite if following the logic of it being a true love’s child – thus boosting Regina’s light magic, which is what will work against the Queens of Darkness. And just realised. If Regina is pregnant it happened that night in the vault and since then she has already been zapped by Emma’s light magic and had a night long sword fight/fist fight with Snow. I think it’s safe to safe to say that she’s pretty tough. But I’m sure Emma will be an important factor. If she learns that Regina is pregnant, I actually think she’ll be very protective.
I’ve been thinking about this and I don’t think it is going to be Regina, if it is related to Once at all. 1. Regina’s already been a single mother so there is no drama there at all. This time she can even have Henry help out plus Snowing and Emma.
True, that’s not the drama. The drama is that Regina is a different person fearing that she’ll get a villain’s ending – and where will that leave her child … Plus adopting a child in a timeline where she is in complete control of everyone and doesn’t have magic is a very different storyline from her now even having light magic and (if it happens) is pregnant with a true love’s child – AND up against the three queens of darkness …
You’re right, it’s messy – but wouldn’t it be boring, otherwise. However, I agree with you that the OQ storyline could have been written a bit more elegantly. Still feeling it, though.
We’ll see. I think the blind item IS concerning Regina. But I know I could be wrong. Just don’t see any other reason for Regina’s very particular face midway through the promo … 😉 (that’s me being a detective … )
Hmm… Does anyone have any alternative theories as to why Once moved forwards in time by 6 weeks?
Nope, have thought about it … It’s a “time to find out and be sure you’re really truly healthily pregnant time jump” 🙂 – one to two weeks would have been plenty for Rumple to find Ursula (in theory) – or they could have chosen to give the Storybrooke citizens a break and jump, say 6 months or more. But neither the very short or significantly longer time jump would work well for an “unexpected” pregnancy storyline. As I’m writing this, I’m only convincing myself even more that the blind item applies to OUAT. And for sure Regina, not Emma.
Oh, and Merry Xmas.
Having Regina be pregnant is…interesting but I think it only adds more complications to the marian situation.
Well, it’s not really Marian that is the issue anymore. But rather the town line. If the curse is lifted, Robin and Marian can just live on each side of the line and share Roland. I mean, they were already feeding ducks together – all together 🙂
Being a diligent viewer paying attention to detail, I really do think there’s something about this pregnancy. Too many clues so far for it not to happen. And yes, the 6 week jump pretty much seems a dead give-away, in my opinion.
I don’t think Regina is pregnant. There is too much other plot going on to force a baby plot in. A pregnancy scare in one episode is possible but not a full blown Regina is pregnant plot.
Of course, you may be right. But for me, it really depends on how the writers would weave the plot in. I think it could be pretty exciting if done properly. The implications alone for Regina’s ability to do light magic against the queens of darkness would be interesting. Because if we go by the show’s previous logic then Emma has light magic because she’s a true love’s child. Regina’s and Robin’s child would be too … so …
But the fact alone that we now know that 4B will start 6-8 weeks after the vault affair – well, if you know pregnancy math
Yeah the 6 weeks later bit at the end of 411 sorta caught me by surprise with regards to this spoiler. Give two or three episodes to deal with big bads/ get the audience up to speed on the big bads agenda and then you’re looking at 7 or 8 weeks in SB time…that makes Regina about 2ish months pregnant. Right around the time she’d start realizing something was up.
Well, if we go really nerdy about this math part and say that a week or so had passed from the vault affair until just before the 6 week jump and then maybe a few days or a week after that will pass to get the villain thing going, that would actually make Regina 9-10 weeks pregnant, because you are actually 2 weeks pregnant at the time of conception (sorry very nerdy, but I’m pregnant, so it’s current in my mind 😉 – and to me that 6 week jump pretty much convinced me that the blind item was #OutlawQueen)
I’m pretty convinced that this blind item is about Regina. There have been quite a few indications in the final episodes of 4A. Don’t think Lana is pregnant in real life, though, and in that case the writers will have big plans for this pregnancy and baby if they choose to do a pregnancy storyline anyway. (Noticed the large coats too, though, but still, Vancouver is cold and on the most recent BTS photos, I just don’t see it).
But the fact alone that we now know that 4B will start 6-8 weeks after the vault affair – well, if you know pregnancy math 😉
That will put Regina in a heck of a situation. Three new villains, no Robin … But she can handle it.
Emma will be her friend and eventually Robin will come back.
All the theories about Regina being barren doesn’t hold up IMO. Leopold was never a husband to her. As far as the flashbacks go, they didn’t even share a bedroom. And we don’t really know how lengthy her affair with the huntsman was. Besides, that affair was “intentional”, so Regina could take precautions. The affair in the vault definitely wasn’t something Regina had planned. Plus, true love and all 😉
I contemplated Lilly’s role too, but I just don’t want to see anymore time paradoxes. If Robin and Regina have a baby, please let them have it in the current timeline … It would surely be girl who would one day end up with little Neal … 🙂
Also, Regina does not have a star on her wrist. Robin doesn’t either. Unless of course it’s covered by his Lion Tattoo :-O But I say again. No more time paradoxes, pleeeeeeeeease. And give Regina a break. If she’s pregnant, then let her keep her child for Heaven’s sake.
And, no, you guys. It cannot be Belle. She and Rumple are already married. If this is about OUAT, it can only refer to Robin and Regina if you put together all the clues. IMO.
