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I just read that article as well Slurpeez, and it perfectly captured my dislike for Hook’s characterization and the way they handled it
Even the connection to Neverland aside, Hook is still poor villain and an even poorer love interest to boot. Fact is if you stick another character that’s charming and sexy next to Emma it’ll be the same and Hook would be irrelevant. Harsh to say but that’s how I see him as. He has no other reason to be there other then pining for Emma, which is a lame character arc. At least his revenge arc was a tad more interesting even if it wasn’t executed that well.
(I’ll post here what I’ve posted in another thread about why Hook just falls flat)
Hook had so much potential during the Crocodile episode but as season 2 went by I felt Hook wasn’t executed very well. He’s an anti-hero villain, but his actions seem so lame compared to the other villains we got. He was pretty much a vengeful lackey for Cora, Regina, and even Greg and Tamara. All of his plans have failed except getting Belle’s memories erased, but then proceeded to get run over by a car. He became a pirate to avenge the death of his brother but proceeded to burn an important asset that could help him (the Pegasus sail) and went to Neverland (with no purpose other then it connects with his character) and didn’t know a way off the island and sat around for 200 years. Then he grabbed at Bae shawl to prevent Rumple from leaving town but got beat up by Belle. I just started cracking up at that point at his character. All of his reasoning doesn’t even make sense. He is neither cunning nor smart. His actions in Neverland were underwhelming as well. The group wandered around for days with no progress into getting Henry. Neal formulated a plan in mere minutes the moment he got there. Mind you, Hook and Bae spent around the same amount of time in Neverland. No wonder Regina wanted to leave the group.
He should get more of his own arc then just with Emma. I thought his relationship with Bae was so compelling, I was hoping for more of that since it turn my opinion back around about him during the last 2 episodes of Season 2 with Bae and Neverland. Now it feels like they swept that all away as if it didn’t exist. They might have touch upon it in the first episode of season 3 as if he mourned him like his was his best friend, but then once Neal was back proceeded to compete with him for Emma’s affection DURING a dangerous mission to save henry, I just wanted to smack Hook across the face.
If it wasn’t for Colin’s charisma and acting, he would’ve been long gone and I wouldn’t even bat an eye. I’m sad that he’s reduce to being a love-sick puppy dog for Emma. I feel like for the most part Hook’s character is made for the sole purpose to satisfy fan’s sexual fantasies. Emma is their representative of that fantasy to have a hot sexy charismatic pirate who is a bad boy but will fawn all over you in their place. It’s just that type of thing the media harps on and idealize. But that is not love, that is the definition of lust.
[adrotate group="5"]UGH! Just when I’ve seen all the Neal GIFs floating around, that latest one takes the cake! But notice in all those instances Neal finds himself reunited with all of them. If he did it once he can do it again!
Remember: “Happiness is possible.” -Rumple
Ok going by the spoilers pics that we’ve been getting for 3×12 and 3×13, it’s seems to suggest that everyone is in on the plan to find Emma and make her remember again. I distinctly remember shots of everyone is FTL garb, and Charming giving Hook the same blue potion that we’ve seen Hook give to Emma in NYC police station. Also Charming grabbing Neal’s arm (maybe to stop him from going after Emma himself?) I’m theorizing that they’re all in on the plan and they gave Hook the mission. I think it’s clear that Hook has some help getting to our world. How did he jump realms? He has no magic, how did he get the blue bottle? He has no idea of the significance of the dreamcatcher (which is clear now that Emma is gonna find it again, probably with Hook’s help since Emma’s memory was wipe of her meeting with Neal in “Manhatten” episode so she wouldn’t have known about his apartment) Neal would have had to tell him about his apartment and perhaps bring Emma there for her to see the dreamcatcher or any other items
GAH this Hiatus is gonna kill me for sure… 🙁
Crying along with you Slurpeez!
I also wanted to add something that I notice Rumple said to Neal before “perishing” It may be insignificant but it stood out to me. (Not mention made me sob like a baby… 🙁 )
Rumple: “I use the curse to find you Bae. To tell you I made a mistake. To make sure you had a chance at happiness. And that happiness is possible, just not with me. I love you Bae.”
That small hopeful line that Rumple says to Neal is “happiness is possible” which going by what we’ve seen Neal’s mission was in the beginning was reunited with Emma and Henry and going by Neal’s promo poster at “second chances” is with Emma. I find that it’s Rumple subtle telling his son to go for his happiness. I want to believe it’s some foreshadowing of the future. There’s a lot of messages of “hope” in this episode.
I have to admit that the Neal and Emma’s scenes tonight were underwhelming. But I do like how Neal was always the optimist to Emma’s pessimist and assures her that he will see them again. Just like Belle is to Rumple.
I still have strong hope that it’s not what it seems. Like others said. Emma may still have memories of her time with Neal but all the fake memories would start when she gave birth to Henry. Neal may know this is the case and have sent Hook in his place because Emma would know Neal as a regular person from our world, and would not believe anything he says or have anything to do with him since he broke her heart. Similar to how she reacted to August. Hook on the other hand would be “strange” enough for her to believe. He has his pirate costume. If Neal showed up like that Emma would think it’s a Halloween costume because she too use to him being in our world.
Also 3×12 promo has a glimpse of Emma looking at Neal’s dreamcatcher. I’m wondering if the curse wiped Storybrooke but none of Neal’s possessions in New York since it’s not a part of Storybrooke, FTL, or near proximity to magic in general. Emma may have to jog her memories with the dreamcatcher! GAH!!!! My feels…
I really confused at this whole new memories wipe thing. Especially revolving around Henry’s father because we all know it is in fact Neal, but Neal went back to the Enchanted Forest? How does that even work? What does Emma remember about conceiving Henry? Neal goes back to the EF and it seems like everything about FTL is wiped out from our realm so how would Emma concieve Henry? Or are they just fake memories that Regina gave them and it is all wiped clean and Emma thinks Henry has a different father?
Ok I’m rambling, my mind is spinning right now. I need another re-watch….:(
Random: I REALLY need people to stop sending hateful tweets to MRJ because I get madder and more frustrated with people every single day. If you don’t like Neal that’s fine, but then why are you following him on Twitter and giving him crap about his opinion on things totally not related to OUAT??! THAT IS SO ANNOYING. He seems like such a great and kind hearted person (he was upset about that guy in Texas who drove drunk, killed 4 people, and got off on charges because his parents are rich and they apparently ‘didn’t teach him the right values’…some random twit gave him a hard time about his opinion and he reposted what they wrote which was pretty bad) and I can’t even imagine how much other crap he’s taking from fans. I know actors have an insane type of ego protection and all (you’d have to have that in order to be an actor in the first place) but you start wondering how much they can take when you start seeing it for yourself. I hate haters!!! (((MRJ))) 🙁
*Sign* There’s just so many immature hate towards the actor. I really feel for MRJ having to deal with this crap. I don’t like it when people say “They’re actors, they’re suppose to deal with the public.” just to justify they’re stupid messages. Because you know what? It’s not ok. Even though they’re in the spotlight, they are still people with feelings. I can’t imagine how I would feel reading those dumb tweets. I remember there was a nasty hate thread on IMDB towards Henry, wishing he would die and then proceeding to bash Jared on his acting who’s just 13! And he actually saw it!!! and tweeted how sad he was with the hate towards Henry on IMDB. OMG I just wanted to die right there. I can’t even…with these people…it was totally unnecessary and made me feel so ashamed of the fandom. A few of us supporters made a Henry appreciation thread, to show that not all of us feel that way.
I try to be very vocal in supporting the actors and their characters. I posted some words of support of MRJ and swanfire on FB. It’s one thing to hate the character it’s another to bash the actors and think they’re like their characters in real life. It’s a TV show people. I don’t hate Colin because of his Hook character. He’s a sweetheart in real life 🙂 But Hook is a villian and that’s how Colin plays him as, it’s his job. Hater’s are loud, we just have to be louder in supporting the show and the characters.
Wow it’s funny that after I posted my essay on CaptainFairy (here) There’s a lot of talk that it might actually happen LOL, especially with ABC’s picture of them two together. I’m not gonna lie I want them together really badly. (But not now, Hook needs to straighten up first and apologize) I can predict that they’re gonna insert Tink into the love triangle somewhere down the road turning it into a love rhombus. If you think about it, it’s storytelling 101. They need to keep up with the dramatic tension. You can’t have Hook who is trying to redeem himself not get his happy ending but you can’t get him together with the main heroine Emma so they pair him up with Tink. Emma and Neal (The main hero and heroine) have been conceived since the first season so you can’t get them together too fast that’s why you insert Hook to shake things up a bit, they’ll have their struggles and break-ups and make-ups until they finally get together in the end. Kinda Cliche I know but it’s their journey that keeps me watching.
I’m just sort of thinking a loud. Sorry if I seem to be rambling. I wish that A&E still did the official podcast to explain a bit more about the episode and clarify a few things. There are many instances where a certain scene goes either way but they clear it up and I always agree with the interpretation that THEY give. It’s their story regardless of how others see it.
I’m perplex that other people think that the poster was Neal’s second chance at being a family with Rumple. Granted that’s true but I didn’t really see it that way at all. Throughout the whole season all his kept thinking about was finding Emma and Henry. Rumple wants to seek a second chance with his son, not really the other way around since during the beginning of the season all Neal saw of his father was beating a man and wanting nothing to do with him. It’s good that he reconciled with his father but if the “Believe in Second Chances” has any meaning attached to Neal, we all know that he’s hoping for a second chance at family with Emma. His whole mission was about Emma and Henry.
So yeah, just putting it out there. I’ve liked the poster on the official Once FB page and got out of dodge when I started seeing nasty comments of “Emma is not his second chance” blah blah blah…. -_- Oi vey….
I did a dance. And yelled. Oh, ABC. You did something RIGHT for a change. It was wholly unfair for Neal to not have a poster. And now he does. (and oh shock! It’s the one they denied was fake a month or so ago…like we said) I continue my dance of joy.
Hallelujah! I just saw. That’s awesome. We all know what Neal’s second chance is (psst… Emma!) 🙂
Between this and the earlier post of Hook and Tink from ABC, all my ships are coming together! All is right with the world again. hehe…
