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@slurpeez108 wrote:
What if, instead of being suicidal, Hook jumped in front of the car, because he figured he had a better chance of surviving the oncoming collision than Mr. Gold’s magical fireball?
He wants to be reunited with Milah and he has nothing left to live for….right now *hint Emma*. He was happy when he thought that he was going to die. But I do think that being hit by a car would be less painful then being burnt to death.
[adrotate group="5"]@Maiqu20 wrote:
Well I disagree with you but that’s what these forums are for if we’d all have the same idea it would be boring..
About the Your Heart is Rotten…it’s because Hook does think his heart is rotten not literally but figuratively
He didn’t try to defend himself because he felt like he deserved to die, he’s not afraid of death he welcomes it, he wants to be with Milah.. He could have killed Belle many times during the episode but he didn’t and even when he shot her it was someplace he knew it wouldn’t kill her.
His attitude is just a mask, the man beyond the mask is broken. His revenge is basically done, Rumple lost Belle in a way..
About Archie
We know Archie knows about Bae and that he had a bad relationship with Rumple (told in the stranger) but I don’t think he told Hook about Bae, I think he might have mentioned Belle (not anything specific though), Hook already knew about Baelfire (he’s also Milah’s son remember) and he knew Milah made the shawlI couldn’t have said it better myself!
I think in a way he blames himself for Milah’s death because he couldn’t protect her. Even when fighting the giant he calls himself the worst human around.
I personally don’t understand why people still believe that he is ‘evil’. The way I see it is if someone killed someone I love, I would not stop until I get even with them and get my revenge. I mean, it’s almost impossible to just say, ‘Oh they were just killed. Oh well life goes on..’, that’s not realistic.
Hook is so self-loathing, that its taken over him.
But what I have noticed is that there are 2 sides to Hook-Captain Hook and Killian Jones. In this peisode we saw Hook, but whenever he is around Emma (such as ep6) we see Killian Jones who opens up to Emma and can beat down her walls.‘He could have killed Belle many times during the episode but he didn’t and even when he shot her it was someplace he knew it wouldn’t kill her. ‘
Exactly. Yes he did shoot Belle who is an innocent by stander. But he didn’t kill her, which is what he wanted. I’ve seen some people say that what he has done is worse than killing her. But I strongly disagree. At least Rumple’s love is still alive and breathing. Over time her memory will come back, either through Rumple’s magic or something that will trigger he memory (which I think might be the chipped cup).We know Archie knows about Bae and that he had a bad relationship with Rumple (told in the stranger) but I don’t think he told Hook about Bae, I think he might have mentioned Belle (not anything specific though), Hook already knew about Baelfire (he’s also Milah’s son remember) and he knew Milah made the shawl
I never thought of that. That’s very possible, because as far as I know he knew nothing about Rumple and Belles’ relationship. And I highly doubt that he would’ve harmed Bae if he had the chance because he is Milah’s son, like he didn’t want to burn the shawl.
Something that really stood out to me though, was that he acted like he needed the shawl because Milah had made it and touched it. I think that over time Milah began to slip away from him, and she became nothing more than a memory, which is also now starting to slip away. And I think this is why he so desperately wants to be reunted with her, because its as if even her face has faded from his memory.
Despite this episode breaking my heart, its better to get it over with now then having it dragged on. Because now Hook can re-evaluate everything and try to found something that is worth fighting for (Emma). It will take time, but its going to be interesting because we get to see more behind the ‘mask’ he puts up.
Also, jane Espenson wrote the next episode and she really wants Emma and Hook together. So i’m sure next week will be even better 😀Sorry that this is long, I just had to get it out. 🙂
@Maiqu20 wrote:
I know everyone is hating on him right now and frankly I get why (partly, I still say a lot of the blame is on Rumple) but this is not the post for that.. (parts of this are from sarah’s tumblr bc she is a lot more eloquent than I at times)
What I got most out of this episode was that Hook wants to die, this is a man who is heartbroken, he lost the woman he loved and all he wants is to be back with her.. The revenge was about killing Rumple, he knew about the dagger and all, when he realized that was close to impossible he wanted to hurt Rumple the way Rumple hurt him.
He purposely lost the fight at the library so that Smee could get the shawl, that encounter already has Rumple pissed at him.
He could have burnt that shawl it would have been the best thing in terms of revenge, he takes the thing Rumple wants the most but he couldn’t do it because Milah made it,
Then there’s the beating with Rumple he just takes it (Killian must be a pretty good fighter I mean he was a pirate captain that takes a lot of guts/skill) but here he takes the beating..and he keeps egging him on he wants Rumple to kill him.
Hook: Kill me like you did Milah, then I’ll finally be reunited with her
He wanted Rumple to kill him on his ship, all he wanted was to be reunited with Milah, he’s a broken man.When Rumple doesn’t kill him, it drives him crazy so he grabs the gun and goes after them..They are at the border and Hook shoots Belle (in a place where he knows it won’t kill her) making her cross the border and forget everything..his revenge is basically complete
Rumple looses Belle just like Killian lost Milah, except for Killian it’s a lot more permanent.
Look at Hook’s smile when Rumple summons the flaming ball of death after Hook shoots Belle? That kills me, because he’s basically thinking, “Yes. Finally.”
Then the car comes and he literally jumps in front of it (look at the gifs if you don’t believe me)
About Belle: (from Sarah’s tumblr)
Hook was testing her. He wanted to see if she was easily seduced, if he could actually win her over from Rumple’s side. She’s always a pawn. I mean of course she’s going to look taken aback, the man is undeniably handsome and just invaded all manner of personal space.
When her love for Rumple passes his test, and he’s bested by her again, he resorts to shooting her. Once again, not to kill her, as he says (“oh, fear not, she’ll live”), but to rip her from Rumple the way Milah was ripped from her. I’ll point out again that killing her is something he could’ve easily justified to himself, since Milah was killed by Rump. Hook could’ve killed Belle plenty of times, but he doesn’t. The only person he wants to die is himself.
So yeah. That wasn’t sexual tension. That was Hook playing with all the cards he had to undermine Rumple, and one of them happens to be his pretty face.
This is not a villain, this is an extremely broken man who has nothing left to live for, but now he can at least try to begin to move on, because he has gotten his revenge. He has moved on from the anger stage of grief to the depression stage of grief..
BTW I do NOT condone Hook shooting Belle/pushing her over the border, it was a very dick move but understandable when seen from his point of view
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Earlier episodes that could be counted for this theoryFought back against the Giant
Almost walk into booby-trapped wires
Threw a sword fight with Emma
Not really avoid the rubble falling on him
The way he spoke to Cora, knowing full well she can most likely kill himThings he didn’t do that look suicidal now.
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I don’t care if you hate/loathe Hook, you have to admit Colin’s acting blew it out of the water
I agree. My heart broke for him this episode. If this episode isn’t proof that Hook isn’t a villian then I don’t know what is. When the car hit Hook though, to me it looked like he purposefully jumped in front of it too.
I knew that Hook was a broken man, but I didn’t realise he was so broken that he wanted to die.I noticed too that Hook shot Belle in the shoulder, when he could’ve easily shot her in the head. But I can’t believe that Rumple had the nerve to say to Hook “what you’ve done can’t be undone”.
In the promo when Whale said it would be best if they let him die, I think they were actually talking about Hook. And it will be Emma who tells him to save him (shes the only one in SB who has a connection with him). So he’ll probably be pretty angry that he is still alive.
What I think is really sweet and exciting is that they are going to make Emma repair Hook and give him something to live for and worth fighting for. They fit together perfectly like a puzzle piece. I just didn’t expect for the Emma and Hook romance to start so quickly- we’re in for one hell of a ride! 😀
Colin’s acting was amazing! I think it was his best yet!
@Maiqu20 wrote:
I love how they are showing us how much he sucks at being a villain…Maybe it’s because deep down he’s not a villain he’s just a man looking for his revenge
I love that fight with Emma..It’s so glaringly obvious he lost on purpose
I agree 100%. He is an anti-villian. He is a man who is broken- imagine how you would feel if your love was killed and died in your arms. I know I would be pretty traumatized and would want revenge. Before Milah, he was just a man who was carefree and wanted to experience life to the fullest.
They have purposefully made him to ‘suck’ at being a villian because he is not a villian. Yes, in the sneak peek he said he wanted to kill Belle- but I truly believe it was just all talk. He only wants to hurt Rumple. To use Belle to lure Rumple to him.
The directors have even stated that he is not truly a villian- “He is either a villian in a heros body, or a hero in a villians body”. And it is this that makes him redeemable. No matter what anyone else says I believe he will be redeemed, once he begins to develop his feelings for Emma, which have already been revealed.As for the fight with Emma, I agree. I mean he even stuck his sword in the sand when Emma was on the ground so he could grab her leg! He had about 6 opportunites to kill her. And I love what the writers have done, with how they contrasted how in the past Hook was going to kill Belle for no reason, and showed how he resfuses to even harm Emma. -Again redeemable qualities 🙂
I have to stop now before I write a whole 2 pages on this 😀
Hey, theres no need to jump down my throat. I was simply expressing my opinion and thoughts.
I just thought that this site was a place where you could share your opinions freely- my mistake.
I don’t think that Hook is ‘evil’, and that’s it.@RCz wrote:
But what about the ‘Hook shooting Belle’ theory?
If Hook does shoot Belle, then it wouldnt be on purpose. Hook is a bad person but he is not evil- and that would be a pretty evil thing to do. I highly doubt he would want to stoop to Rumples’ level. I think that Belle would jump in front of Rumple to save him. And when Rumple throws the fireball at Hook is when the car comes. And thats how the outsider sees magic, as well as a man with a hook.
@slurpeez108 wrote:
Sneak peek #5!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl_WL1dxG_4&feature=player_embeddedThanks for the link!
I’m actually happy that Charming wants to do something for himself. Normally he is always very selfless, such as going under a sleeping curse. I think its reasonable for him to be at least a bit selfish every once in a while.
@TheGoldenKey wrote:
@Oncewatcher wrote:
What is Paley Fest?
It’s a show where they have various TV show panels there to discuss their shows/seasons/characters and where they also give some sneak previews, etc. They have an MC who does the interviewing of the panel and then open it up for questions from the audience.
Not sure who will be on the OUAT panel this year. Their first Paley was a knockout as their panel consisted of Ginnifer Goodwin, Jennifer Morrison, Lana Parrilla, Robert Carlyle, Josh Dallas, Raphael Sbarge, Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz.
Keep you eyes and ears open because there will be video out there of the panel’s interviews as well as scripts. You get a lot of information and clues from them all.
Ohh.. that sounds interesting!
Thanks for sharing NONNIE, I appreciate it 😀
