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@slurpeez108 wrote:
@malchore wrote:
EDIT: Wait, didn’t both Snow and Charming have some kind of protection spell placed on them so that Regina could never harm them? I’m curious how Regina was able to hurl David/Charming out of the store so easily. Is that protection spell worn off? I really need to watch these episodes more carefully.
Rumple fashioned a protection spell for Snow White and Prince Charming so that Regina couldn’t harm them in the EF, but that doesn’t mean she couldn’t harm them in another world. That was Rumple’s entire angle; he wanted to motivate Regina to cast the dark curse so that everyone would be transported to a land without magic, where she can now harm Snow&Co. again.
Yes! Thank you slurpeez, I remember now.
[adrotate group="5"]@Demileto wrote:
Has any magic user other than Rumplestiltskin ever turned someone into a bug or rose, though? I recall only him doing such a thing, maybe that’s a Dark One exclusive power.
Not that I recall. But we’ve seen Regina teleport people. She could easily teleport someone 2000 feet above ground and let them fall to their death. Or teleport them inside a solid wall. Or 2000 feet under ground. Just lots and lots of truly fun things you can do with teleportation. (This is what years and years of playing dungeons and dragons has taught me.)
@Riddleraven wrote:
Frankly, Regina or Cora could’ve just turned them into bugs without having to use any dark fairy dust and squashed them!
This.
It’s always bothered me a little bit too. But if the magic users killed off the main characters so easily then we wouldn’t have a TV show. It’s for the sake of the fiction the “good guys” are kept alive.
Pretty much every James Bond 007 movie suffers from this meme. (The first Austin Powers movie had a great spoof of this meme. 😆 )
This link kinda explains it a little. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InvincibleHero
EDIT: Wait, didn’t both Snow and Charming have some kind of protection spell placed on them so that Regina could never harm them? I’m curious how Regina was able to hurl David/Charming out of the store so easily. Is that protection spell worn off? I really need to watch these episodes more carefully.
@AngieBelle wrote:
I was a bit confused myself…suddenly, it seems that *anyone* can learn magic. I think more must have happened between Cora and Rumple than we saw because we didn’t see him teach her very much.
i agree. I was a little disappointed with the extreme ease it is for anyone to learn magic. As I was watching that scene (where Rumple was showing Cora how to spin straw into gold) I was curious if that was how Dark magic is learned. Drawing anger and humiliation and channeling that into your task produces magic.
That reminds me of “The Force”, in Star Wars. There are the Jedi – those who draw on the light side of the force. And the Sith – those who draw on the dark side of the force. The Sith draw their strength (which can be thought of as magic) from their passion for anger and hatred.
The only “good” magic we’ve seen requires Fairy Dust. (Or a wand.)
We saw Rumple teach magic to two people in this episode (Emma and Cora.) It seemed really easy to learn. Emma we can understand may have some magical ability born within her being the product a true love and all that. But Cora was just a random woman. She picked it up pretty easily apparently.
I agree that Rumple likely never taught her any more. But we know Cora had that “book” of spells. Maybe she learned much more from that. Good point though.
I’m a guy so I have to be careful what I say about Rose McGowan least I be banned from this forum. But uh, yea, I really liked her…in this episode. A lot!
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
Well in all fairness it IS very strange that she’s supposed to be this ultimate power but hasn’t really been shown to have a whole lot of it. Perhaps it’s more that her power really IS good (like they’ve been trying to tell us even though a lot still think she’s sneaky & up to no good) and that good simply has to play by the rules and therefore evil has the upper hand sometimes. I think they had said something along those lines in the official podcast at one point, something about her being good at least, I’d have to look it up. The lack of knowledge + the ultimate power thing isn’t doing BF any favors.
This. A million percent agree with. The writers gave Blue Fairy a lot of “legend” in the minds of the characters of enchanted forest, for centuries actually.
The most recent episode (The Queen in Dead S2E15) got me thinking. You know how all magic comes with a price? What if the fairies are an exception. Or what if magic evoked from people of truly good nature has no “price”? It seems only people who practice dark magic (rumple, regina, cora) are the ones whose magic comes at a price, It would explain why dark magic is so much more powerful than the fairies. And would additionally explain why Rumple always has these complicated “deals” and contracts with the people he’s “helping”, as an insurance policy so that HE never has to pay that price.
@myril wrote:
If I had something like a yellow card here I would show it to both of you, malchore and SpinningGold. Show some respect for each other and for the forums, please. You are getting personal offensive, and I am convinced both of you are mature enough to stop this before it gets even uglier.
Agreed. SpinningGold, I apologize. Thank you myril.
@SpinningGold wrote:
I stand by what I say, dude… Yes you toned it down in your post, but your openingsline still stands. Personally, I don’t think you should have even mentioned it in the first place. And I think we need to protect these child actors, they are still kids. The grown-ups can fend for themselves, but when it comes to the kids, let them be, don’t critize them. How would you feel if a stranger out of no where started judging your behaviour?
I am judged daily on my behavior and the quality of my work, when I am in the office. I don’t know you, but I assume you are not a professional — else you wouldn’t have written something so ridiculous.
You are WAY over-exaggerating the harshness of my post. You make it sound as if I’m an influential TV critic who can make-or-break a performer’s career, when clearly I’m not. And child actors are not so fragile and as you portray. This child actor in particular already has a long list of credits to her name, and she’s barely a teenager.
You’re being an internet troll, because you can. You cherry-picked one sentence I wrote — conveniently ignoring all the praise I gave her — and grossly over exaggerate it. You disagree with my post. Fine. Most folks on this forum disagree with what I write, but they’re not trolls about it. No need to be unreasonable and pretend you’re some champion defender of child actors everywhere.
@SpinningGold wrote:
First of all: Cruel, no matter what you think of her acting, to post a remark about that about a young girl that clearly put everything into that role. How would you like it if somebody started making remarks about somethi you absolutely poured your heart in? If something needs to change in her acting, it’s the director’s job to pick up on that not yours.
Oh, you mean like when I mentioned she’ll likely win an Oscar some day? Yeah that was cruel I suppose. Dude, are you serious with this post? And I did point out it was the director’s responsibility.
I was quite blown away when I saw her in Stable Boy. I thought, not only did they cast a child actress that kinda resembles Ginnifer, but this girl nailed Ginnifer’s mannerisms and movements.
And I think we can all agree, it was Gaston who had the worst performance of an extra. (though he wasn’t a child actor.)
