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Screwballs review of 403 is up. As per usual, it’s HILARIOUS however I do think she was overly harsh with OQ.
http://screwballninja.tumblr.com/post/100097433956/why-i-warmed-up-to-rocky-road-4×03-this-week-on
[adrotate group="5"]@rumplegoldfan I like the softer look that they’ve given Hook and Emma for their date. They are both deliberately stepping outside their comfort zones in not only their choice of clothing but in having a conventional date, when lets face it, their romance has been very unconventional from the start. I LIKE innocent looking Emma, after seeing nothing but the hardass for 3 seasons. Don’t know why people online are hating on the dress, she looks gorgeous.
And this is EXACTLY how it will all go down on Sunday 🙂 I love the look on Davids face. I really hopes he says something protective-daddy-like to Killian as they’re leaving.
http://i-love-you-swan.tumblr.com/
Thanks @surayya for all the great gifs. Got to say, this one is my favorite:
I think poor Colin completely forgot to button up his shirt under that vest 🙂
Rocky Road is my favorite episode this season so far, for completely non-shipping reasons. I think Goodman and Schwartz hit that good balance between witty dialogue and character interaction. Everyone got some important screen time this episode which is good to see. Can’t wait for these two writers to collaborate again.
So, I’ve been reading quite a few reviews from different source,s some of which were posted on this site. I can’t believe how polarizing this show has become, even among journalists. Reviews ran the gamut from complete hate and ridicule of the show to fawning over it. The complaints varied from not enough screen time for Rumple and Regina and too much screen time for Hook, to hating on Emma and/or the Frozen storyline and-“how DARE they mention NEAL after they killed him”. I have yet to read a completely unbiased review. HOWEVER since this is the CS thread, I feel obliged to post the link to Nerdy Girl Notes review, which gave me the feels in its utter love for our ship.
At first, Emma’s interactions with Hook in this episode might have given you a sense of tonal whiplash after how open and vulnerable she was with him at the end of “White Out.” But I think between her own brush with death and seeing Robin struggling with Marian’s curse, Emma had mortality on the brain. This made her suddenly very forceful in her attempts to keep Hook safe and in her frustration with him when he ended up in a life-threatening situation. However, Hook did what he does so wonderfully where Emma is concerned: He made her stop running (literally and figuratively). He voiced the same concern we saw him state in the first episode of the season: She’s avoiding him, and he wants to know why. And this time, she actually told him. In the course of two episodes, their relationship has grown so much, and I loved that the physical intimacy shown in their closeness in “White Out” gave way to the emotional intimacy of Emma finally being honest about why she’s been holding back with Hook. I adore when characters are allowed to talk through their issues like real adults, and that’s one of my favorite things about Hook and Emma’s dynamic: He makes her feel safe enough to open up to him about emotional things she probably wouldn’t share with anyone else.
As good as the episode was, it just didn’t give me the unabashed “SQUEEEEEE!” effect of the previous “White Out” episode. I love spoilers (my fault, I know), but knowing that the kiss was coming kind of took the excitement out of the it (yes, I was HOT, but a surprise kiss would have really knocked my socks off). What went on between them before the kiss was the best though- her tears, that little smile of his, ugh! I was a puddle of emotional goo.
The Hook and Rumple scene got me really excited for what’s to come and I bet you anything that Colin and Bobby are having a blast working together. @rumplegoldfan, @surayya et al, I agree with you 100% that this show as come full circle, back to S1 standards. Hope the writers keep up the momentum, cause its getting good!
This meta on Hook vs the modern world and trying to fit in is from http://vickyvicarious.tumblr.com/post/99402383051/modern-man-hook
I’ll have to block some of it out for upcoming spoilers.
<h3>Modern Man Hook</h3>
Hey, let’s talk about this.
It’s no secret that I, and many others, love the man out of time trope; and for OUAT, Killian has been just that. Most of the other characters have been brought over by one iteration of the Dark Curse or another, and as such have had the necessary knowledge of modern technology plopped into their heads. And as Happy in particular showed us last night, some folks have taken to them more than others.
Killian’s always been different. There’s a lot to love in how he managed to evade not just one, but both Dark Curses – there are some great parallels to Emma there, for starters. And of course, the ‘man out of time’ trope – with the exception of the stray moment like Cora destroying the phone tap because she doesn’t like what the “magic box” is saying, we don’t get a lot of fairy tale characters being startled by our world. It’s generally shown the other way around with Emma (which is a pretty strong CS parallel right there).<!– more –>
Killian, on the other hand, has been: run over by a car, led to believe jello is a medicinal substance, confused over perms, ‘force-fed’ bologna, and perplexed by mentions of Photoshop, GPS, Marty McFly, and Netflix, just to name a few. He continues to use turns of phrase that show this distance, while other characters adopt more modern lingo. He keeps wearing his pirate clothes… In so many ways, it’s been driven home to us again and again that he is new to this world, that this doesn’t come naturally to him.
This was no accident.
I saw a meta a long time ago talking about how meaningful it was that Emma met Hook in the Enchanted Forest, the land of true love itself, and I’ve commented before about how Killian is the only one of her romantic interests whose true identity she knew from the beginning (as opposed to some alias). That’s exactly what’s happening here: just like Emma has always been pretty firmly grounded in the attitudes and culture of the LWM, so too has Hook always been a fairytale character. There is no “we are both” for these people – or at least there wasn’t, for a long time.
Their integration is happening at the same time, together. We’ve all seen and talked about how Killian helped Emma accept her magic, and that Storybrooke was her home. In fact, it’s only during everything that’s happened since meeting him that she’s accepted her role as Savior, even if she admits that she’s still not really sure what that means. Still, these are the parts of herself that harken back to her roots in the EF; that’s why showing up in the book was such a big deal for her. She finally feels like she has a place here with all of these fairytale characters – and that is in large part thanks to Killian’s presence and help.
But now we’ve come back to Storybrooke, and suddenly he’s the odd man out. He’s still the guy running around in full pirate regalia while everyone else has jeans. He was sitting outside the diner in the finale until Emma brought him in. The only reason he’s here in this world is Emma; she’s the one bringing him in this time, helping him integrate. But she’s got a lot on her plate, and let’s be honest: there’s a lot more immediate stuff he’s got to learn than she ever did.
In fact, Killian even lampshades the issue himself during his ‘talk’ with Charming about Emma in last night’s episode:
He’s clearly well aware of his own disconnect with the rest of town.
But this is where it gets great: he’s actively trying to fit in and learn more. Killian’s always proven that he can adapt well to strange situations; navigating New York twice was proof enough of that. But just getting by and fitting in are as different and surviving and living – and Killian wants to live here. Storybrooke is Emma’s home, and Emma is his home; he knows he’s here for the long haul so he wants to stop living on the outside.
Even since he brought Emma back from New York, we’ve seen these signs. He was finally invited into the Snowing loft, he was called Killian… for Henry’s sake, sure, but that’s where it really started. The first moment I can remember seeing a clear example of him trying to learn about this world was when Zelena kidnapped him:
He pulled out some hilarious sass about Zelena not keeping up with the times in Storybrooke, but it’s more than just that. Killian has heard of a telephone. He’s seen people using them, no doubt, and he’s taken enough of an interest to learn their purpose and what they’re called. Sure, you could say he just happened to observe this, but the fact that he used the word “telephone” instead of the more common “phone” sounds to me like he actually asked someone and they explained it to him. Either that or he looked it up somehow.
Of course, he’s smart, he picks up on things quickly and intuitively (as we saw last night when he snatched the walkie-talkie from Charming and was able to operate it for the rest of the episode with no problem). You could certainly argue that ‘telephone’ was just something he picked up along the way. Sure.
But what about when he got Emma the radiator?
First of all, that shows a familiarity with the loft that I love: he knew it would be right there. But he also knew what it was, what it did and how to operate it. Sure, that radiator’s nothing like as complicated as what Snow was dealing with, or anything, but it’s small. It was tucked away. But as soon as the power comes on, Killian jumps up to get it, aim it at Emma, and turn it on. That is not something that would occur to him unless he was already familiar with it, and the only way for that to happen would be for him to observe it and decide to figure out what it was/did. Maybe he had one in his room at Granny’s and recognized that this was the same thing, or maybe he spotted it here – it doesn’t really matter, what does matter is that Killian is adapting. He came up with a modern-world solution to warming Emma up, without pause.
If that’s still not enough for you, then how about this entire conversation, but this moment most of all:
Our second date, he says. This guy does not come from a time or a place where romantic outings were referred to as ‘dates’. To him, a date is a fruit. Or at least, it should be. But he’s talking here about going on dates with Emma, with complete ease. Based on this conversation, it’s clear that Emma hasn’t broached the subject with him. Nor would Charming, or pretty much anyone else really – you could speculate that a side character like Ruby or someone mentioned it to him after the finale kiss, perhaps. But just as, or even more, likely to me is that Killian is actively looking for this information. He is trying to learn about this world in order to fit in, because he recognizes that this is his home now, and he can’t afford to stay on the outside.
And this brings me to spoiler territory… please skip the rest if you don’t want to see them.
When asked in a TVLine interview what role Emma played in Hook’s upcoming makeover, Jennifer Morrison said: “Oh, he does that all on his own.”
Killian giving up his pirate clothing is very symbolic, and the fact that he chooses to do so himself, without any apparent prompting, is all the more so. His clothes, particularly his coat, have been consistent ever since he gave up the Navy life and became a pirate – there are hundreds of years’ worth of identity steeped in those clothes. In getting a new outfit and leaving his old coat behind, Killian is essentially choosing life with Emma in Storybrooke over being a pirate all over again (last time being when he traded in the Jolly Roger).
Of course, it can’t be all or nothing. Every other character has had to learn that – for most, all it took was that one speech of Charming’s. Emma’s had a much longer and more difficult struggle to get to a place of acceptance – and here again the CS parallels continue, because Killian’s going to struggle too.
I, and a whole bunch of other meta writers, have been predicting an identity crisis for Hook this season, almost certainly coming to a head during the episode(s?) when he gets his hand back. He’s going to try a little too hard to adopt this world at the cost of his ‘pirate’ self, and he’ll learn that isn’t possible. Especially not in this town. As David says:
And just like Killian helped Emma accept her magic, I think Emma will help Killian accept that he can make this world his home without ever truly losing the pirate part of himself. (She’s already acknowledged that he is both a pirate and a hero; this is just reminding him of that.) She will help him find a true balance and settle in to his home in Storybrooke.
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When she reaches up and cradles the back of his head and the camera moves Killian’s face – we can see his total surrender to the fact that he was terrified that he was once again going to lose the person he most loves in the world, and his relief that this time the person he is holding that he loves is alive and not dead – and he is completely overcome with emotion.
Nice catch RGF! I just thought she was mimicking the way Killian always caresses her head when he holds her. I like your idea much better 🙂
Thought this was cute:
http://keepcalmwearetimeless.tumblr.com/post/99405854980/how-i-remembered-this-conversation-charming
One last post before I get my kids to bed. This is an excerpt from Bustle’s review of tonights episode:
Hook is a total feminist these days, even though he has a rocky past with women. When Charming revealed a little skepticism about Hook dating his daughter, the pirate assured him that contrary to his past behavior, he doesn’t see Emma as “loot” for him to acquire. Which is a good thing, because Emma isn’t an object to be won, stolen, used, or owned. She’s a strong, independent woman who could absolutely kick Hook’s ass if he even tried to objectify her and she deserves to be loved. So, basically, OUAT just told us that Captain Swan is a team that’s built to last. Even if they still have never had a first date — unless you count getting chased by that snow monster in the OUAT Season 4 premiere a first date.
You know, one would hope that tonight’s dialogue between Hook and Charming regarding his intentions would clarify to the haters out there exactly how NOT “proprietary” Hooks behaviour towards Emma is and that he sincerely does respect her wishes. But I doubt it. They’ll certainly find something else to b@#$h about.
Sweet dreams everyone! And two more for the road:
Yo, Bo_Peeps you badass you!!! Nice cleavage btw (not how I pictured you) 🙂
Ahem, SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! Holy moly, that I did NOT expect. The hug, the interlocking fingers, the head holding, the carrying, the clutching each other, the sex (no??? darn…..). I thought we’d be getting a convo not all the PDA’s. God Bless Jane Espenson for this:
And this:
And this just MELTED me:
I’m DYING over here!!! (send help)
