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MatthewPaul
ModeratorSo if 518 is the “random character” episode…any guesses on if we see Merida and Lily?
Random characters with Zelena being the featured of the regulars, despite having her own centric only 2 episodes ago. I guess it somewhat makes sense when the Dorothy/Oz storyline of the Season is for more than just 1 episode?
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ModeratorRegarding the slippers, I do have to ask one question. Can you bring companions along the way via hand holding while wearing them? I don’t recall they ever ruled out that possibility.
MatthewPaul
ModeratorMatt already gave the in-universe explanation but what you pointed to–the manipulative author–is maybe one of the most meta commentaries about the show possible. Issac, the author, was a total stand-in for Adam and Eddy (right down to the famous #NoSpoilers line from Isaac in the AU). He was, essentially, a writer who changes the fundamentals of a character to fit the sort of story they want to tell. The finale of S4 was so self-aware that it makes me think that A and E are actually more aware of what they’ve done to their story than I have previously credited them with.
Another possible meta moment in the series with Isaac:
Emma: We have a lot of questions.
Isaac: I bet you do. *runs off*
Sounds like the fans and Adam and Eddy in a nutshell.
MatthewPaul
ModeratorThis was charcter assassination no doubt. But didn’t the author make them do this by changing the story? It’s vague, I know. But that’s sort of what I was going with so that I didn’t feel the arc was total crap. It was the manipulative author behind it all.
Isaac steered them in that direction, but Adam and Eddy have said that Snow and Charming were completely responsible for their actions otherwise. Not to mention, Snow and Charming were still trying to deceive Emma from the truth in present day Storybrooke, while Isaac was still trapped within the page of the book.
MatthewPaul
ModeratorThere’s another turning point I’d like to bring up in relation to what’s been discussed in this thread. One of the biggest changes to the story was when the writers decided that Snow and Charming secretly transferred Emma’s potential for darkness into Lily, which also caused Lily to be sent to the Land Without Magic. Many of us felt that this resulted in character assassination for the two characters. They kidnapped a baby, doomed said baby with Emma’s darkness, sent said baby to another land, and kept lying to Emma to hide their shame in present day Storybrooke.
The writers likely came up with this idea because they had been struggling to do anything interesting with Snow and Charming for a while, thus this twist was created to mix things up a bit. This also may have been an attempt to further emphasize the grey area between heroes and villains. While making the viewers further sympathize with the villains, they also wanted to show that heroes aren’t quite as pure as traditionally led to believe. Ultimately, I felt like this particular twist backfired, and it leaves a rather bitter taste in my mouth.
MatthewPaul
ModeratorBut is it Mulan or is it Red? The obvious answer would be Mulan but then there’s the new title…. but other than that, having it be Dorothy with all the LGBT connotations Oz already has…slightly eye roll worthyy.
Someone remind me, have we seen Merida yet? It would make sense for her to appear in this episode given her history with Mulan.
As I said in the title thread, the title might be referring to Ruby actually using the slippers, rather than any hints about her and Dorothy being in a relationship. It would still make the most sense for the LGBT pairing to include Mulan, given what’s been set up.
MatthewPaul
Moderatorhttps://twitter.com/ClassicLana_/status/692567372889194500
Guessing this “mystery woman” might be Terri Reeves (Dorothy). Maybe this particular fan just didn’t recognize her?
MatthewPaul
ModeratorMatthewPaul
ModeratorMeghan Ory filming with Colin and Josh…that’s gotta be the Underworld. So either she and Belle died or they’ve found a way into the Underworld besides needing a drop of the blood from someone who’s already been there, unless they somehow used a drop of Zelena’s blood!
Or, they’re finally out of the Underworld. Maybe the exit from the Underworld somehow led them to Storyrbrooke’s graveyard? Guess we’ll find out soon, if they start filming in Steveston again without the broken clock tower and smog.
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