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Thats right Amdillae thats actually wierd.. hadnt crossed my mind before, but she didnt have to change the contract because of Zelena. When Rumple would have come to collect his prize she could have just said- well to bad I dont have it here then..

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Price_Of_Magic Wrote:

Grimmsistr wrote: Belle marries the man that keeps her as a pet – Mayor Fail

I strongly disagree with this. Rumple does not keep Belle as a pet. Yes he is lying to her at the moment but we don’t know what is going on in his head or his reasons for doing so after his year long experience of being enslaved by Zelena, forced to watch his son die, and being resurrected from the dead. Rumple loves Belle, and she is probably the only one he listens to and who’s opinions he takes into consideration. He may not always listen to Belle but he certainly doesn’t treat her or keep her as a pet.

I just don’t get why she loves him. To me it looks like a case of the Stockholm Syndrom.. she said that thing about loving all of him even his darkness ->STOCKHOLM SYNDROM!!! ….. but that’s just me. So Rumplestiltzkin is no baby snatcher on Once he is a bride capturer. lol ! just kidding 🙂

And I will admit being bias here because I am and have been disappointed with the Rumple character from the very beginning (not Carlyle’s acting which is Brilliant!!) but the way Rumple character is written… and because Belle is not my favorite either, to me she is a pretty wallflower.. sorry Belle fans, but we cant all like the same things.

Price_Of_Magic Wrote:
Also I disagree about Emma being a damsel in distress just because she needed Hook’s help to navigate the customs in the EF which Emma had no experience with. Had Hook been a woman helping Emma, would Emma still be classed as a damsel in distress? It’s common sense to ask someone who knows about the EF for help if you yourself do not know what you are expected to do but are expected to do it.

Its because of the way it comes across on the show. I agree with Myril who said we need woman empowering woman. At the least just one of the main characters- Emma Regina and Snow, or two of course in that instance. Right now we have all three main characters needing a man in their lives. To doo right, to be right with themselves and to have happy (for-the-time-being) endings. I would have no problem with Emma needing Hook in EF or Regina needing Robin’s love.. neither would I have problems with damsels in distress storylines on the show, if a story of strong independent woman who didn’t need guys to make their days work was also told on the show. It used to be told on the show.. in season one and two, so I hope its just a glitch.. they will be back full force in season four 😉

Jenna_B Wrote:
However, becoming a mother doesn’t make someone perfect. It certainly doesn’t mean that a woman isn’t going to act for selfish reasons. In a perfect world, maybe – but not reality. If you want reality, then Emma is a ‘real’ mother. She’s scared out of her ever loving mind and acting/reacting due to that fear. Being a mother is scary and hard and it changes you profoundly. But it definitely does not mean every decision you make – even in the name of your child – is going to be the right decision.

Exactly !

Jenna_B Wrote:
Product of True Love: I think this is one pickle A&E really need to define. Why is being the product of true love so special when it comes to Emma?

Also one of my bigger questions: This is actually reducing Emma to a product, it even spells it out that way for us, but still the show keeps telling the viewers that we are not defined at our birth- we make our own choices- Evil is not born it is made… then how come good is born when by true love? Or can true love babies also become evil?
….It is the statement that your biology defines you that’s the problem. Being the Savior and a true love product, is then Emma’s fate/destiny then what happens to her free choice?

Im not saying its not interesting and couldn’t work out in the end, but the show should address it atlest at some point and not just leave it hanging in the air.

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Why not ??

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About Emma wanting to go back to New York with Henry:

I understand why people are angry at her for it, but I really don’t see it as being out of character, she does tend to want to run from the hard emotional situations rather than face them.

RG Wrote:
And mother? She doesn’t want Henry to be with his family–including his other mother, she doesn’t want Henry to see his Father when they find Neal, she wants to pull him away from his life.
The season ends with her having “saved” people only after she broke it all (and saving “the wrong person” because she felt super bad about Marian dying) AND she barely mentions Henry during the course of the time travel escapades.

I see it as a very motherly way for her to think. She wanted to keep Henry safe, they had a good safe life in New York, as she remembers it, they had their whole life there and she does still have those memories on top of her real ones- first of all that must be very confusing. This was also what she wanted before her little trip to past Enchanted Forest. At this time she was still trying to run away from that world her family and fairytale part of her self. This would have been the wrong choice for her to do, I agree, but the characters making wrong choices only makes them seem more real to me and I love them even more for it. If they always did the right thing, the hero thing, they would be dreadfully boring.

Phee Wrote:
The way Emma had been so steadfast about leaving had been disregarding her parents’ (and Regina’s) feelings entirely, not even acknowledging that those other people had an emotional stake in her decision, and that’s pretty selfish.

Yes she was being selfish and then she was hiding her selfishness behind her desire and excuse of wanting to keep Henry safe. Her wanting to keep him safe and save him from the hard life that all these entanglements of living in Storybrook and knowing about this his fairytale family would mean, was real and that’s what I mean by saying it’s a motherly thing to do she wanted to protect him from all of that.

But it was also selfish because it would make things a lot easier for herself and she wouldn’t have to deal with her emotions regarding her parants and she wouldn’t have to deal with Regina being Henry’s mother. But these are the things that makes Emma Emma. She hates emotions and she builds walls against them. I love Emma because she isn’t perfect and these things, and her wrong choices, are the things I love seeing in her. They make her a real person not just a character fresh out of the hero mold.

About Emmas relationship with her mother:

Myril wrote:
The main character to blame for it not working is IMO Snow

I agree with that but Snow has to me just been a wonky character from the very beginning. Emma and Snows relationship really does seem to be cast aside for the time being in order to have time to tell all the other stories that they also want to tell.

In some ways it does make sense Emma has not been brave enough to really start a mother-daughter relationship with Snow, I like that approach.. I for one would feel the same if my mother was the same age as me. But the writing hasn’t really explored either Emma or Snows feelings towards each other, be they stand of-ish or loving. They have addressed it in glances and small comments but there is so much more emotional stuff there to dig into. I would also enjoy if they addressed it more.

RG Wrote:
And yes she found her home with her parents but it literally happens over the span of (in show) one or two days. (2 hours for us). One second it’s “I’m leaving. I won’t need magic in NYC” and then “I must stay in SB!” Lightening fast character development that makes me spin

The fact that Emma changed her demeanor after her trip back in time made sense to me. But it, as so many other things on the show, was rushed in the writing department.

Is Emma a damsel in distress?:

 
Myril wrote:
what me irks about how they took Emma a step or more along her journey to a better self, is that the key character now became a man, the possible true love or love interest. It’s such a worn out path.

This I definitely agree with as well. They keep promoting the show as a new look on female heroines in fairytales, they say they have no damsels in distress on their show but in a round-about way they doo-
Because the female characters keep needing some man to save them. Here we saw Emma needing Hook to tell her what’s what and keep her grounded and be there for her as a Enchanted Forest Guide – Fail… Snow always needs Charming to find her – Fail… Regina needed Robin to “hold her heart” before she learned to do the right thing – Fail …. Regina keeps getting screwed over by the little imp man – Fail … Belle marries the man that keeps her as a pet – Mayor Fail

So there we go- Damsels in distress all over the place.. which now after season 3 includes Emma.

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Oliver is a cute name. Congrats to the Family –>

“Pilot Inspecter” LOLs who named their kid that, someone famous?

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Yea Im not a shipper either.

I like to think, and sometimes refer to myself as being a boater- I love sailing around the OUAT Lake and take in the scenery 😉

I think shippers are more visible around the forums because they get into fights with eachother (shipper wars) over differences of opinions more often then the non-shippers.

Shipping is really a very strange and interesting phenomenon (shippers please dont take that as an insult, it is not ment to be) As an outsider on the shipping thing, it sometimes seems like a Ship is to a Shipper what a religous person’s faith is to them.

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Good one Tiara. Uhhh! Regina and Robin in a small room in a hospital… I like it.. what ever will happen next?? And WickedRegal is going to write that ep 😉

And you found the name for Henry’s operation- Operation Horendous confusion. I like that.

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Really awsome seeing all of these pics and vids from the Spookey thing. They brightened up these dark ages that are the hiatus 🙂 Tanks to all you Guys for putting those up here.

Last vid with the whole interview was especially awsome to see.

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We are now only 3 writers short of filling all the chapter spots!! AWsome you Guys… Im having so much fun doing this story with all of you Guys ♥ and I cant wait to read what everyone comes up with..

Happy writing to all upcoming writers 🙂

 

We need to figure out a good name for Henry’s new mission/operation. The name he is trying to come up with with his mom Regina in chapter 3. “operation Spy On the Story-writers” ?? Does anyone have a good idea for a fun name?

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chapter 3

They all felt it, the cold. It was creeping in through the windows and walls. Outside it was still early in the day but black clouds gathered above the town and light was quickly fading. Granny ordered Ruby to start a fire in the fireplace as she herself would go down the cellar to turn up the heating system. She hurried past the table booth where Emma, Henry and Hooks were sitting.

“Do you think that witch that Happy saw is the one who is doing this?” Henry asked Emma.

“Maybe” Emma said while she was occupied in turning the pages of Henrys book, to see if there was anything in it about this white witch.

“Seems to me she is giving us the cold shoulder this one Lad” Hook said as he stood up to look out the window, through his pirate telescope.

“What kind of magic would do something like this-” Henry said “Make winter in the middle of summer? “

He looked out the window, the clouds kept growing thicker and darkening the sky, pretty soon it would look as dark as night outside. Henry felt his heart sink heavily in his chest.
“Im scared daddy!“ Henry heard little Roland say to his father in one of the other table booths. “It’s Okay Roland, come sit here on my lab” said a female voice. It was this new lady who Emma had brought back with her from the past, this Marian. Henry turned his head and looked at the little family sitting behind them. The other Merry Men from Robin Hood’s group were there as well. Almost the whole town of Storybrook was there in Granny’s small diner right now, some was upstairs in the rooms because down here it was getting pretty crowded.

But it was this woman that, to Henry, felt like she was crowding the most. Like she took up much too much space, even though she was pretty small or just a normal sized woman, Henry thought to himself, but she took up space where she didn’t belong. Then he looked at the little boy Roland. He had just gotten his real mother back. Henry felt guilty and stupid for thinking this way about the woman, when she was Roland’s mother after all. This little boy wanted his real mother back, just the same as how Henry had wanted his real mother back a couple of years ago. Now Henry had both his mothers.

Henry turned around and looked across the room to see where Regina was. He saw her standing across the room, talking to Tink and Ruby. She looked small from so far off and with all the town people crowding the room between Henry and her. She had looked so sad yesterday when they got back to the house after the dinner at Granny’s. Of course she had pretended that everything was just fine, but Henry knew otherwise. It was this Marian from the past, Robins wife. She took up the space where she didn’t belong. Because she Had been gone. Emma had returned her, she had made Roland’s mother and Robins wife return from the dead. This was always the thing that Rumple said was not possible, not with magic, not ever- but it had happened.

Henry watched his mother Regina, as her eyes wondered over the many faces of the people in the diner, until Regina’s eyes locked with those belonging to one man, Robin Hood. They immediately looked away from each other again. Henry got up from the table booth and left one of his mothers to go be with the other one for a bit.

……

Ruby put another log on the fire and looked up at Tink who was standing next to her, she saw fear in the fairies eyes. Something the fairy didn’t usually display that much of. But Ruby could see it even if Tink did try to hide it. “We are all together on this one Tink. We’ve got the three best sorcerers on the same side now, our side. Emma, Rumple and Regina fighting together. I mean just think of that.. That is awesome. We can’t fail this one”

Tink drew back her gaze into the fire and looked at Ruby “I know. We are a strong bunch the lot of us… Im not worried” Tink was aware that Ruby could probably see through that lie easily, but she didn’t mind they both knew they had to help each other keep their spirits up. And Ruby was good at that which Tink appreciated.
“Its just that these odd things are starting to get to me. It’s not that there is a witch, she doesn’t worry me much. It’s the other stuff. People saying and doing things that seems crazy… Promise you’ll tell me if I do something crazy alright Ruby?”

“You have a deal, that goes the other way around too” Ruby said smilingly.
………

A few minutes later Regina sensed the magic in the air was getting stronger and whatever, or whoever it came from, was getting closer. She told Henry to stay at the back of the diner and she walked towards the windows in the diner’s front door. Patches of white frost started to grow out from the window corners like small white trees. As Regina looked out she saw the woman, she was white as a ghost. She moved across the street in an almost flowing motion like she glided across, where her feet hit the pavement a white glistening lane of ice was left behind her. Her coat brushed a bush as she walked by and the small branches and leaves turned to ice and broke into a thousand small pieces that fell on the ground.

The woman walked up to face her through the window. Emma walked up next to Regina and looked out at the woman “Who are you?” Emma asked loudly for the woman to hear through the glass. The Witch stared at them, she had icy blue eyes. The woman directed her eyes straight at Emma. Emma felt a cold fill her whole body rendering her motionless. the witch stood right in front of her now on the other side of the window glass, she held her hand up, the glass started creaking as patches of frost spread across it. The witch curled her hand up and made a fist it looked as if she was about to knock … then, suddenly she disappeared.. like a flake of snow that had melted away by a breath of warm air.
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-somewhere by a boubling, boiling cauldron, two Witches looks into the image in the boiling Water surface.

“What !!! Kisses, we didn’t write her in.. What the bleedin’ ships is she doing there? This isn’t good Ed. What should we doo? Where should we put her?”

“Well.. for now, I have just put her outside of town, we should hope that that will keep her away from the residents for a while. Until we figure out what to do with her. She must have fallen through one of Your plot holes Horrorwitch ”

“What do you mean ‘My’ plot holes?… You’re the one who insists on always changing the rules to what ever new great idea Plot Divisius calls in with…”

“Anyway let’s not fight now Ed. We should consider getting rid of that icy woman, she is nothing but trouble…But let’s go to lunch first.. there is this great new sandwich place down on Yellow brick road. And we should hurry, Confusius is going to call in later. We need to be back when he calls.”

-In a nearby tree a small blue bird sat watching as the two story-writer witches walked off, leaving their story brewing for the cravings of peanutbutter.
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Night was falling on the town streets of Storybrook, it was snowing silently.. everything was silent as death, there were no lights in the windows of the houses lining the street, except for those shining from Granny’s windows. The Witch peeked out from behind a wall of the opposite building, she watched as two figures walked across the main road. It was Rumple and Belle, walking through the increasingly thick layer of snow on the ground, they came up to the front door at Granny’s diner. Belle knocked and Emma came to let them through the protection spell on the door.
The witch walked across the street when her feet hit the ground the snowy white surface creaked and froze. The witch looked through the widows again. She saw the faces of the townspeople looking out at her.

“Let me in I need to talk to you” The witch said.

A blond woman walked up to the window, it was the same woman as the witch had seen looking out at her earlier. “We are not going to let you in here, but we do want to hear you out alright! So go to the town hall and a couple of people and I will come over there to meet you okay?”
…..

Regina Emma and Rumple walked over to meet the white witch at the town hall. Inside they found her sitting in one of the bench roves.

Emma walks up to her without fear- “What have you done to the town? Did you put a curse on it to make it winter?”

“No.. not a curse.. Im sorry for the cold… Its just, this kind of magic sort of follows me around. The cold likes me and I like the cold, but I have learned that not everyone loves it like me. I promise I will try to… tone it down a bit and make it less freezing… My name is Elsa by the way”

And so Elsa begins to tell them her story, she tells them how she has been cooped up in that ash tray for so long, she just had a hard time containing all her magic it went a bit wild on her.

Emma asks who it was that trapped her in that vase. Elsa says that this is really what she wanted to talk to them all about, she hopes that maybe they can find a way to work together. She tells them of the story-writer Witches Adam Horrorwitch and Eddy Kisses and explains how the storywriter witches has control of their destiny, they are the ones who write their stories and what a story-writer Witch writes, will come true.. unless the towns people rebel against them and with Elsa’s help finds a way to break free of this, their cursed prison.
Elsa tells them how she was ones written out of one of Adam and Eddy’s stories because she found out about them and coursed to much trouble for them. Now she has aligned herself with some magical creatures called the twitter birds, or by some they are called the Oncers.

“The birds say they want to help us. If we want to break free from the story-writer Witches prison. But Horrorwitch and Kisses cannot find out that you have talked to me.. Right now they are out to lunch but when they come back they will be able to hear us and see us, so we need to act as if we haven’t spoken and you must pretend that you think of me as your enemy” Elsa said

“How do we know we can trust you Dearie? Excuse my manners, but after all.. we just met” Rumple asks

“If you have a plot hole? something like an odd item, a thing that doesn’t make any sense and presumably works without any rules or explanation?… then I can prove it too you. You can call on a twitter bird through an item like that. The birds will show you the truth” Elsa said and Emma mentions that a coconut from Neverland might doo, or a heart perhaps. Elsa advices them to try with the coconut since they might not have much of a heart left after the bird has opened the plot hole to see through.

“Use the coconut it will work like a magic mirror, you can look through it. If you call for a twitter bird when you hold it, the bird will help you open up the hole, but do it while the writers are distracted. So tomorrow, two of you pretend to fight me while one looks through the plot hole, then you will see I’m telling the truth”
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The next day most of the town had gone down to look at the staged show down between Rumple, Emma and Elsa. But Regina was on her way in the other direction, she was on her way to her Mayor’s office where she had put the trunk with stuff she had brought back from Neverland, one of the coconuts was in there. She had a big warm coat on, one she had borrowed from Granny. Thank God that grandmother had had a lot of those to borrow out to people. Regina had packed her winter wear away.. since it was after all summer, but yes- it was stupid of her to ever count on such a thing as predictability of seasons when you lived in a town like Storybrook. Granny had lots of these coats in an old closet up in one of the smaller rooms for rent, Regina had gone with the woman to help carry some down so other people from town could borrow. She thought back at how the old woman had walked in to the closet and had seemed to almost disappear between all those coats. How deep was that closet anyway? And Why in the world, Regina thought to herself, would the woman keep a closet with that many winter coats? She was distracted from her thoughts when she heard a voice calling out for her from behind. It was Henry.

“Henry what are you doing here? You were supposed to stay with Hook and go with him to see Emma and Rumple fight”

“Yea… well I wanted to come with you. Im sure Hook will get over it. And I have a feeling that today the real action is gonna take place backstage” He said and blinked at her
Regina was about to protest but she stopped herself, nothing dangerous was gonna happen so why not let him come with her, she was happy he was there with her.
………

Regina and Henry reached the office building and Regina found the trunk hidden in her office. Henry helped and they carried it to her desk. They sat down and opened the trunk.

“Mom.. We should come up with a name for this mission. What should we call it do you think?.” Henry asked

”uhmm operation …I don’t know Henry. What you think?” she smiled at him “Operation spy on the storywriters?”

Henry smiled “No, it needs a certain umpfh… you know.. We have to think of a good name together Mom” Henry said.

Regina smiled at her son. ‘Together’ he had said, finally she was together with him in that way she had longed for, for so many years.. the same way they were when he was just a little boy, and now he was grown, almost a little man.. Regina thought, as she looked at his grown figure. How small Roland looked in comparison, but it did feel like a lifetime ago that Henry had been that small. Regina didn’t want to think of Roland and his dad now, she shook her head a bit. Finally she retrieved the coconut from underneath the stuff in the trunk. Now there was work to doo, so thankfully it was not the time to dwell on the pointless. …..

Regina opened the nut and held one piece to her mouth like it was a walkie talkie, she called out for the bird- “tweeter bird?….. tweeter birds are you there?… Oncers?” she heard a scrambling noise from the nut and out through a little crack in the shell came a small blue bird. “Nice to meet you little bird” Regina said. The bird looked curiously at Henry and her ”Help me see through the plot hole little bird” the bird hopped around the edge of the shell a bit, until it seemed to have found the spot it wanted, it began to peck at the nut shell, it pecked and pecked until a small hole was visible. Regina put her eye down to the hole and looked through.
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To be continued- (Who want to be the writer for chapter 4??)

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