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I would love for them to hear cause as I said, I dont mean it in a bad way. Nicknames can be for the good if they are given with love. Really Im surprised if no one has thought of these names for them before, since they are so obvious. Anyway if they have not been called that by anyone before, then I give them too them with love
[adrotate group="5"]Im not very much into the twin idea. What would be the reason for making them twins?
Did I read in a spoiler somewhere that Kisses and Horrorwitch said they wouldnt go for a soapy baby switch? or am I imagining that? But I dont think this kind of baby switch would be of the soap cliché kind. I dont know if switching babies has been over used much on soap series, but I know that the idea of a “changeling” is very much a fairytale/folklore thing, so I would think it fitted well to Once.
I know it complicates the Family tree further and it is already waaayyy too complicated. But I really think that it could Work this way.
Thank you Phee and RumplesGirl for the help I will try that out.
Of course they can, though the social expectations on these young royals were probably to not have lots of overt affairs (or babies) before being married, and Henry seemed like one to do what he’s told, and Eva seemed like one to do whatever she bloody well pleases. Henry seemed like a nice guy, and Eva seemed like a bit of a $&%@# and they didn’t seem compatible IMO. In the scene where Cora tripped, when Eva started throwing her entitled tantrum, Henry spoke up, “I don’t think the girl meant any harm.”
Henry was not loved by his father. His father even admitted to Cora that there was not much about his son that was lovable. So Henry has somewhat of a miserable life as a Prince.. He must always do what his father expects of him and what etiquette of being a Prince demands of him- I see him being desperate for any kind of love or compassion that he can grab on too. If Eva was “willing” I could see him taking that chance, they where both young at this time. Maybe it wasnt “Twu Wove” but it was affection- wich Henry was most likely craving.
He had compassion for her, so IMO he wouldn’t have been at all attracted to someone with Eva’s bullying personality, not even before Cora came along.
I see what you see in the pictures. But I think this also applies to what I wrote above. He is just desperate for some lovin. Think of how he was with Regina later on, he stayed with her even though she was completely of her rocker crazy at that time, murdering people all around, he was an enabler. craven love, wich he was never able to get.
medchen wrote: Henry was weak, he only did what he was told, first by his father, later by his wife Cora. We never actually see or hear that he truely loved her.
IMO the poor guy was legitimately smitten with her. We don’t know how long it took her to prove herself as a hideous wife, but around the time they got married, I can’t see him having cheated on her, (and by the time he might have been tempted to, he was probably too scared of her to actually do it), and like I’ve already said, I can’t imagine him going for a girl like Eva, even before Cora showed up. [/quote]
What can I say- Its always the quiet ones.
may the Little Imp strike me Down!.. It still didnt work 🙁 I give up and just put my texts in fat.
Great idea with this thread Spoekenkieker!!
I dont have any links to share of the back of my hand Im afraid, I tend to just surf the net when looking for clues. I like SurLaLuna though.
But those courses sounds very interesting will check those out. Thanks!
Sorry Cinders, for the strange way of commenting on your post but I cant get the quotes to work right.
I’ve had this exact same theory for weeks, and I’m so happy I’m not the only one who thinks Regina and WWW may have been a changelings switched at birth by Rumplestiltzkin with the help of a dark fairy. Wikipedia describes one of the symptoms of a changeling is greenish complexion.
my comment: Oh really.. a changeling has a green complexion! Thats great evidence as to why these theories might work 🙂 Good on you for finding that. Your theory is a bit different then mine, exept for the changeling part.
1. When Regina first met Rumple, he told her. “I know everything about you. I held you in my arms..you were younger, more….portable”. That phrase was emphasized, and it’s a phrase everyone remembers him saying…more portable. That word, portable means he carried Regina from one place to another. He took Regina from one mother and brought her to Cora.
my comment: exactly! that Word seemed to hold more meaning. And we havent seen Rumple carrying baby Regina yet, so there is some story to be told there.
2. Considering Cora literally had no heart, I would assume there might be ramifications to her offspring..like a green baby..Cora May have even agreed to the switch and let Rumple or dark fairy hide her green daughter. And what better place to hide a green baby than a land without color, where green cannot be seen. 3. We all know that WWW has settled into Regina’s castle, even wears Regina’s clothes. Why would she have a vendetta against Regina so deep that she would take over her kingdom as if it were her own? I think WWW has returned to Enchanted Forest and Storybrooke to take back the life that was taken from her.
my comment: So where did our Regina come from in your theory?
Now to Rumple, in whatever state he’s in. Rumple is a planner, a long term planner, who sees the future, or bits of the future. He spent many years preparing for the curse, preparing Regina to enact the curse. It’s possible that Rumple saw the future beyond the curse. When he made his original deal with Cora to take her firstborn in exchange for spinning gold, Rumple told Cora that her child was important to him. If Cora’s firstborn was the WWW, then Rumple knew the WWW would be important to him in the future. In whatever state he’s in, WWW will be an important piece in Rumple’s long term plan.
Rumple might not have planned for the switch from the very beginning. Because he was surpriced that Cora ripped her own Heart and that he sort of fell “in love” with her or was atleast lovin her devilishness. So I think his original plan was to use Wicked “Regina” to enact the curse, the way he ended up using our Regina to enact the curse. The baby switch was just to get back at Cora for two-timing him. Therefor he has no other use of Wicked other then that of rubbing her greeness and peasantness in Coras face.
Oh for cryin ou loud!!!
I dont get how the quotation system works, as you can see from my above post 🙁 can someone please explain it to me?
How do I break up the persons post, that Im trying to quote, when I want to make a comment in the middle of that post?
I just can’t buy into Henry Sr being her father. So if that baby that Cora’s holding up is WW, then Cora had an affair with someone.
my comment: she could have had an affair, but that adds unnecessary complications to this already very complicated Family tree. To me a fair haired child by a dark father is more plausible than a fair haired child growing up to be as dark as Regina is, the difference is to big.
I could maybe buy Eva having been a wild child who screwed around a bit, because she was quite the entitled brat back in the day, but dunno that I can believe it of Henry. From what we’ve seen of him, I think he’s always been a compassionate, well behaved kinda guy,
my comment: So people having affairs or babies out of wedlock cant be compassionate and well behaved? Im sorry but I find that view a bit old fashioned 😉
and he was sincerely smitten with Cora in the beginning. If there was a baby switch when they were still young enough to not have the difference noticed by anyone and everyone, their affair would have had to happen around that time when Henry married Cora and Eva was still a brat, (who had been nasty to Cora, who Henry was smitten with at the time). Henry remained quietly devoted to Regina until his bitter end, so I can’t really see him having cheated on his wife.
my comment: The affair between Eva and Prince Henry could have happened around the time of ‘the millers daughter’ ep, we see they did know eatchother back then and Eva was seen as a potential wife for Prince Henry, but I think Henrys father was greedy, so when he saw Cora spinning straw into gold he forced Henry to merry her instead. Henry was weak, he only did what he was told, first by his father, later by his wife Cora. We never actually see or hear that he truely loved her.
I think the mystery of the fair haired baby is that there just aren’t that many newborn actors to be able to pick and choose from. They probably had a couple of babies on set (Lana said there were multiple BabyHenries) and this one happened to be awake and not crying when they were ready to shoot the scene. Or maybe they deliberately wanted a fair haired baby just for the hilarity of that kid totally being held up like Simba.
my comment: Yes the Simba resemblence was stricking. I see them doing it for that reason, although that would be a silly reason in my mind 🙂
Ive tried it but why do we need a ‘sorter’ to make out who of the characters we love best? We can hopfully tell on our own. But mine worked out a bit different then I would say myself
Sorter: 1-Regina 2-Emma 3-Rumple 4-Robin Hood 5-Tiny and Grumpy
Me: 1-Regina (because she is so AWSOMLY BADASS and Parrilla plays her absolutely perfectly with so many different sides to the character. She makes me cry when she is vulnerable and lonely and laugh when she bickers with Rumple or the Charmings ..and I cant help lovin her even though she is a crazy bish- love her MOST when she is as bishy as they come)
2-Emma and Rumple tied (Emma, because she is a strong woman a fighter but she has put up so many walls for herself. I love that she is layered. And because she is the firebird/the phoenix of the story. Rumple I love for his devilish side I love his evil laugh and the way he gestures when he is the dark one. And how he secretively manipulates everyone. But I really dont like the Mr. Gold side of him at all)
3-Snow and Robin Hood tied (Snow I really dont like at the moment, so she is just on my list for the potential that she is. I liked her robber girl/forest wildling period, lets please have that back soon. I would have liked her going more dark from making bad decisions. I would have loved some more danger in her personality, something she was hiding underneath all that white purety. Robin Hood is also on the list for his potential, since we havent seen him much yet. I like the original Robin Hood +finally we get a good looking guy on the show after Graham. And he is there for Regina.. Yea!)
4-Grumpy and Tiny tied: (Grumpy, because he is so cute when he is grumpy and I loved the love story with him as Dreamy and Nova- probably I was the only one. I love when he comes running yelling “Its here” or “Terrible news” Tiny, because his story was so nice and he became a Brother dwarf .. aw! that was so sweet)
5-Jefferson: (his was a very interesting character and story. And played VERY well by the actor. Please bring back Jefferson dearest Once Gods!)
