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OH MY FREAKIN GOODNESS!!! That was one of the most brilliant awsome episodes ever. Its definitely one of my top 3 right now. Nothing less than —10/10….
They brought the good stuff for the Winter Finale.. bless them đ
Im so happy and over exilarated from this episode that I cant gather my thoughts to point out anything specific… ALL WAS FANTASTIC! đ
I want to rewatch someday before I talk about Fave scenes and other stuff.
Just WOW ! LLOL! —-> Thank You so much for tonight ONCE <3
[adrotate group="5"]HAPPY ONCE DAY EVERYONE!!! Enjoy it,, its the last for months.
Im Exited, happy and a bit worried, cant wait to see this one đ
…. only the dark part of her dies, and that the dark part of her needs to die to perform some huge task, or to stop the savior shakes? Like the savior shakes are caused by the battle of good and evil (esp. Dark One evil) within her? Either way, being stabbed ensures her continuation as the Savior with only light magic and goodness inside her?
Yes lol đ Well one or the other we will see.
Lets play a guessing game -put your cookies on Who you believe is under the Hood?
Im putting mine on – Robin Hood
but what would be left behind? Are we just going to ignore the whole emma has no potential for evil thing? Do the writers even remember that?Quote
Im thinking its not simply one of two sides -Evil vs Good that can be “killed” with the sword. Its a representation of one of the many sides that resides within a person.
Like Regina found out (I dont remember if it was the Dragon that told her?) The Evil side that she seperated herself from, with the serum, can grow back…. In other words Evil Queen is just a representation of something that will always reside within her.
Emma’s “Savior side” is something a little different, I think. She is the Savior “built in” the Dark Curse, killing her Savior side would not technically mean anything, since she has already broken the Dark Curse. She would more or less just be killing of her own feeling of being bound to this destiny.
This part we had sort of already seen in the promo. But still ..YEAAH!
ry4christ: Â “I hope they explain the AU coexisting with the present reality with the âYou canât change the pastâ genie rule/law of magic. #continuity”
Is that a rule though? When was that established on the show? Two realities should be able to exist concurrently and if, with Genie magic, you can not change the past of this reality, that does perhaps not prevent a Genie from creating a nother reality..
Im just seeing it as; The wish- Emma’s wish was that she never became the Savior. That would mean no Dark Curse. And then what we will see in the AU is how everything would play out without the Dark Curse. Regina would still be the Evil Queen, if they explain why she hasnt aged, it only needs to be something like- magic is the best form of youthserum.
I dont see why this AU woudnt work? What facts other than the curse would have to be undone? I mean, yes, everything after the curse would happen in a different way, but that is the awsome and interesting thing about the AU.. and IMO they dont have to explain all the details, only the ones that are important to the current story.
They DOO need Baelfire to somehow have met Emma. Im confident they will have thought of some elaborate way of making that have happened- (lol!!!! does that sentence work? or did I totally screw it up??)
YES!! OH NO! Dont kill her Emma đ Dont kill my favorite character. I need her back inside Regina…
Exiting clip!
Im guessing this means that when Emma gets stabbed with this sword her “savior self” will die, like it was foreseen by the girl Oracle. And the “rest” of Emma will survive.
 (Heck, if for some reason EQ and Regina could not remerge, I am sure if EQ gave up her revenge and started making decisions to be a better person the Charmings, and eventually Storybrooke, would accept her too.
Then Henry would have three mothers 
)QuoteOh Holy I hope not…. That would be too repetitive. I will hold my money on a remerging. Its the only thing that works, in my opinion. If we want Regina to survive that is, and I definitely doo.
Onceoholic:
She at least wants someone to love her the way she is.
I also mentioned a few weeks ago that she could be fighting to exist independent of Hero! Regina.
The part about fighting to exist independent of Regina, is something I have wished for them to put more emphasis on from the beginning of this storyline. They still might use that in the end and I DOO think this already IS part of her motivation, but they should have pointed to it more in dialogue and in the writing in general, in my opinion. This is a very solid reason and motivation for Evil Queen. Like Ive talked about on here before- She is not a real person yet, as long as she has those ties to Regina that prevents her from dying unless Regina dies, she will only be Reginaâs âshadowâ (talking Jung psychology here -*brushes of my imaginary professor hat)
There is a fairytale by Hans Christian Andersen called âThe Shadowâ which is about a Man who become separated from his shadow. And after long years of failed attempts by the Shadow to persuade the Man to become its shadow, the story ends with the shadow killing the Man in order to become the Real One.
Evil Queen wants love. I didnât think so in the beginning of the season, but we have seen she wants Henryâs acceptance and she wants to âown himâ which was also Reginaâs understanding of how to love someone in season 1. She has, all predatory like,, gone after Rumple to get his âloveâ she has used different words, because I believe she doesnât understand that it is love that she needs, so she says she wants him on âher teamâ She wants Zelena on her team too, but is so screwed up in her mind that she falls for Rumpleâs schemes to get her to choose him over her sister, because Evil Queen thinks she needs power more then she needs love- this is also an effect of her not knowing what love is -The strongest magic as we all know.
The revenge on Snow was always Regina projecting her pain and anger to something she could understand. That is why it gives her no form of satisfaction. But it was what motivated her. Perhaps revenge as a motivation is now gone, or perhaps she is now going to direct it elsewhere âsay Emma!
Going forward Evil Queens other motivations are presumable still- Trying to become Real. Trying to get her son Henry to be hers. Trying to fill the hole inside her, which is what she needs love for, but this is not understandable for her, she is incapable of getting this.. Regina did, but it took her years and that understanding must have left Evil Queen when Regina left.
Realm jumping is easier now because Storybrooke is part of the land without magic and it has magic in it. I am not understanding how people are still not getting this. If there was no Storybrooke, the only ways to get to the Land Without Magic would be a bean or the curse. All of the other magical ways would not work if there wasnât a Storybrooke. It is possible Neal came to the Enchanted Forest instead of going to the Land Without Magic. Do we even know how Neal got to the Land Without Magic? I think he stole a shadow with that coconut and used that to get their? Something like that? I cannot remember.
My point is that they can easily brew up some explaination, with a little imagination. But a nother question is -Will they make that explaination clear to us, the audience? and will it work neatly or just be one of those magicmcguffins??
