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ParticipantI believe he still and have always been the Blue Fairys puppet.
She never turned him in to a REAL boy, just enough turning to make him ‘her’ puppet. And therefor everything he does is at Blue Fairys bidding, whether it be good or bad.
In the Oz story he could very well be the scarecrow who is missing his mind then π
And Rumple is the lion missing his bravery
And plenty of characters are missing their hearts…who shall we choose….[adrotate group="5"]Grimmsister
ParticipantPerhabs it ist some kind of explosive magic that will turn him into a fish π That means Archie could turn out too be Arthur in the Disney version of 'the sword in the stone' Arthur is turned into a fish by Merlin. π Hah! I would love that.
Then Archie could be the one who finds Rumples knife and perhabs, binds it in stone…Grimmsister
Participanterm! not neccesarily. But I can post it there also.
Grimmsister
ParticipantSorry guys! using this as a note board. Hope somebody but me also finds this interesting…
SHINEDOWN – HER NAME IS ALICE LYRICS
I invite you to a world Where there is no such thing as time…………………….Storybrook
And every creature lens themselves To change your state of mind…………..everyone cursed
And the girl that chase the rabbit Drank the wine and took the pill
Has locked herself in limbo To see how it truly feels………………………………Regina
To stand outside your virtue No one can ever hurt you Or so they sayHer name is Alice (Alice)
She crawls into the window Shapes in shadows,
Alice (Alice) And even though she’s dreaming, she knowsSometimes the curiosity Can kill the soul but leave the pain…………………..Regina
And every ounce of innocence Is left inside her brain
And through the looking glass We see she’s painfully returned
But now off with her head I fear is everyone’s concern………………………..Her dream!You see there’s no real ending It’s only the beginning
Come out and play
This kingdom good riddance Good freedom and innocence
Has brought this whole thing down “………………………………………freedom, again there it is. See?Grimmsister
Participant@EvilQueen wrote:
BTW – coming back to chess analysis and the title of the show ONCE A PAWN A TIME???!!!
Hah! good one. Or, One pawn at a time.
Grimmsister
ParticipantSorry guys! using this as a note board. Hope somebody but me also finds this interesting…
SHINEDOWN – HER NAME IS ALICE LYRICS
I invite you to a world Where there is no such thing as time…………………….Storybrook
And every creature lens themselves To change your state of mind…………..everyone cursed
And the girl that chase the rabbit Drank the wine and took the pill
Has locked herself in limbo To see how it truly feels………………………………Regina
To stand outside your virtue No one can ever hurt you Or so they sayHer name is Alice (Alice)
She crawls into the window Shapes in shadows,
Alice (Alice) And even though she’s dreaming, she knowsSometimes the curiosity Can kill the soul but leave the pain…………………..Regina
And every ounce of innocence Is left inside her brain
And through the looking glass We see she’s painfully returned
But now off with her head I fear is everyone’s concern………………………..Her dream!You see there’s no real ending It’s only the beginning
Come out and play
This kingdom good riddance Good freedom and innocence
Has brought this whole thing down “………………………………………freedom, again there it is. See?Grimmsister
ParticipantThank you EvilQueen, for the heads up on the Alice thread, found it and listened to the song- Its great !!!
Alice’s words-
If I had a world of my own Everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is Because everything would be what it isn’t.
And contrary wice, what it is it wouldn’t be And what it wouldn’t be it would, you see?=the curse, and Storybrook (If Regina =Alice)
Grimmsister
ParticipantUuh nice thought!
In Alice through the looking glass. The King who makes all the trouble, is asleep, and that King is in some analysis seen as God/Fate.
Then the Dark One, could be just that. And Rumple merely Gods tool to do his bidding (while he’s napping π )Grimmsister
Participant@EvilQueen wrote:
Er, not exactly, once the King is gone, that’s the end of the game. It’s the Queen that can be killed off and the game would still continue.
Don’t get me wrong, it’s not a bad theory but if we have way to many colours in the show to say that there are actually only two sides of the game. Also, I’d say there would be way more clues about it and I haven’t seen a single chess board yet!Oh bummer !… But I’m not giving in yet π
No no. I don’t mean it like then there is only two sides, but just, argh its hard too explain, give me a minute too figure it out..
Yes there have been chess boards. In the Cinderella ep. I remember seeing one in Rumples shop. And well Wonderland was one big chessboard.Grimmsister
ParticipantI copied this from Sparknotes homepage, it’s an analysis of ‘Through the looking glass’
“Chess as Metaphor for Fate
Aliceβs journey through Looking-Glass World is guided by a set of rigidly constructed rules that guide her along her path to a preordained conclusion. Within the framework of the chess game, Alice has little control over the trajectory of her life, and outside forces influence her choices and actions. Just as Alice exerts little control of her movement toward becoming a queen, she has no power over her inevitable maturation and acceptance of womanhood. At the beginning of the game, Alice acts as a pawn with limited perspective of the world around her. She has limited power to influence outcomes and does not fully understand the rules of the game, so an unseen hand guides her along her journey, constructing different situations and encounters that push her along toward her goal. Though she wants to become a queen, she must follow the predetermined rules of the chess game, and she frequently discovers that every step she takes toward her goal occurs because of outside forces acting upon her, such as the mysterious train ride and her rescue by the White Knight. By using the chess game as the guiding principle of the narrative, Carroll suggest that a larger force guides individuals through life and that all events are preordained. In this deterministic concept of life, free will is an illusion and individual choices are bound by rigidly determined rules and guided by an overarching, unseen force.”
Notice how there is also a White Knight in this fairytale. Emma is called the white knight right ?
This makes me more convinced that Fate, in the OUaT show, is the Big Bad Evil..
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