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melliemd
ParticipantIt just means you’re now going to lose 😉
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ParticipantYes! The “evil” characters have always been written to lose, to be evil, to never get a happy ending. The curse spits in the face of destiny and takes matters into it’s own hands, allowing for these characters to have a chance to find redemption.
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ParticipantI think Hook’s true love was Milha… Seeing as he’s dedicated 200+ years to avenging her death.
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ParticipantBecause in this world, it was an honour to fight for your people, and it was supposed to be seen as an even greater honour to die for them. It feels sort of like a comparison to the Vietnam war – at that point, if you were a draft-dodger you were a coward. At least outside of a group of people who were also supportive of draft-dodging. Nowadays we have more choice, we have an opportunity to decide if fighting for our country is something worth it’s honour to us. For Rumpel? He was probably the only man in his village who refused to fight, so while all these other women were able to remember their husbands as brave soldiers who fought to protect them and their children, Milha is the only one who has a husband who did not give that sacrifice.
So Rumpel, for that reason, isn’t a coward by OUR standards, but by the standards of HIS world and time he most certainly was a coward. And deserting Bae made him a coward. AND telling Baelfire that Milha had died. Remember when he leaves the ship he asks “What do I tell my boy?” And Hook says something along the lines of “What any honourable man would, the truth.” But Rumpel doesn’t do that, because he’s afraid of what the truth means.
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ParticipantI don’t think he was pleased. The knight was moving to take off his glove and Midas told him to be careful, “Remember what happened to Frederick” not as a ‘If you act out like he did I’ll turn you into gold’ but instead as a ‘If you accidentally touch my hand, you’ll turn to gold, and that would suck, bro.’ In the episode “What Happened to Frederick” we’re told that Kathryn and Frederick were engaged, as Frederick was the gem of all the knights, a true warrior (something that Midas prized). The three of them were travelling when they were attacked, and Frederick saved the King from being killed. He leaped to save him, and was brushed by the hand and turned to gold.
It is also made pretty clear that whilst King George is VERY eager about the merger, Midas stands to gain nothing from it aside from a) a slain dragon and b) A husband for Abigail. He is going to giving King George mounds of fortune. If Frederick had not been turned to gold, he would have been able to slay the dragon and he would have had a husband for Abigail.
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ParticipantTo make the perfect working curse he needed every piece in a specific place – it was a long-term solution. He needed to get Cora to marry Henry, and then to corrupt Regina to get her to enact it, he needed Snow and Charming together to have a child, he needed to be imprisoned in Price of Gold… He had to manipulate things every step of the way. But whilst he was doing that he was searching for an easier way, a way that wouldn’t make him lose his memory for 28 years, a way that would get him exactly where he needed to go when he needed it. So he was searching and searching for something that could be a fast solution.
Also, Crest1994: Robert Carlyle confirmed that Rumpel is 300 years old. This is why all the theories about Rumpel being able to manipulate time, or Baelfire going to Neverland and becomign Peter Pan are very popular.
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ParticipantBae wouldn’t help Rumpel corrupt Regina, though. That goes against pretty much everything he stood for.
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ParticipantUnless there is a line between ‘curse’ and ‘poison’. I sort of thought the reason true love’s kiss wouldn’t work, is because she wasn’t afflicted by some magical anti-baby water. I thought it was because the water was poisoned to where it would affect the uterus/ovaries/etc. to a point where it would cause her to be unable to bear children. As we saw with Charming being stabbed, true love’s kiss may work on a magical problem, but a physical one? I think in the magical world they assume it’s all curses and the like, since when you have magic you have no need for science. So saying that “This is a curse”/”It’s magic!” About all that is good and bad would be a natural impulse.
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ParticipantRumpel talking to the Blue Fairy is right after he loses Baelfire. His clothes, appearance and voice all place him at that point in the timeline. Regina and Jefferson came 200-250~ years AFTER he lost Bae.
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