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Looks like another emotional episode that is going to rip my heart out. I wonder if he loses all of his memories of being an adult…if maybe the guilt of all that he had done was keeping him from becoming human again. Maybe he was given a clean slate.

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@Phee wrote:

@Mich7 wrote:

But if she is there with him and witnessing all of this then she must know something which means if Neal is the one that told her then they are obviously close…and we have yet to see her with August at all…every time she shows up it’s with Neal.

Neal didn’t have to confide anything in her if she was sent by Blue to find him, because she’d already have known his whole back story. If she works for Blue, as someone who had sent info back to SB about Neal’s whereabouts, and also about August’s, then it makes perfect sense for her to be in this scene with all of them.

Phee I hope you’re right but I don’t trust Blue…she broke up Dreamy and Nova…who’s to say she didn’t send Tamara to seduce Neal to keep him and Emma apart for some sort of greater purpose…she might have even been behind breaking them up in the first place through August. And if that did happen and they still intend for Swanfire to happen we are back to having another Kathryn again…really did not enjoy triangle with her, PC, and MM. Don’t want to live through another one with Swanfire.

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@slurpeez108 wrote:

@RumplesGirl wrote:

@Mich7 wrote:

Unfortunately I questioned whether Neal was her end game romance when they did not make MRJ a regular. Which really bites since they went out of their way to make it such a wonderful romance in Tallahassee but then they are going to make Milah and Rumple’s seem good as well. Well at least I’m prepared for disappointment…that’s why I check out spoilers…to brace myself.

The actress that plays Tamara is also on The Walking Dead…maybe I’ll get lucky and see her eaten by a zombie 😈 lol or I’ll just imagine that every time I see her on screen with Neal.

I’m trying so hard to not hate this lady we know almost nothing about. lol.
Well on the SwanFire front: I think having Henry be such a major character means they are going to try to keep SwanFire together. No moral judgement here, but on a show that is trying to be “family friendly” I think they happily ever after for Henry is to have his parents together, in FTL, having adventures.

Yeah, all of that is Henry’s Happily Ever After (HEA), which I think will align with Emma’s and Neal’s HEA. Plus, as has been pointed out in other threads, Emma is the product of true love, as were her parents. As we’ve seen from 2×6, Henry is the product of true love. I think that has always been the end game for the savior of the curse to end up with the reason for the curse. It’s just such a nice parallel and a beautiful narrative arch.

lol The two of you need to bottle that optimism and send some my way.

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@RumplesGirl wrote:

@Mich7 wrote:

Unfortunately I questioned whether Neal was her end game romance when they did not make MRJ a regular. Which really bites since they went out of their way to make it such a wonderful romance in Tallahassee but then they are going to make Milah and Rumple’s seem good as well. Well at least I’m prepared for disappointment…that’s why I check out spoilers…to brace myself.

The actress that plays Tamara is also on The Walking Dead…maybe I’ll get lucky and see her eaten by a zombie 😈 lol or I’ll just imagine that every time I see her on screen with Neal.

I’m trying so hard to not hate this lady we know almost nothing about. lol.
Well on the SwanFire front: I think having Henry be such a major character means they are going to try to keep SwanFire together. No moral judgement here, but on a show that is trying to be “family friendly” I think they happily ever after for Henry is to have his parents together, in FTL, having adventures.

I’ve always thought that too but now I don’t know…Milah and Rumple did not stay together…and Bae really hasn’t had a good time of it. I mean last season (even though everyone was under the curse) just didn’t seem as hopeless to me…this season just seems dark…I mean the Rumbelle thing was almost more than I could take…now Swanfire.

I know happy endings are supposed to be just that…endings but I expect some happy along the way as well. We got happy with Swanthief in the beginning but by the end of the episode it was destroyed and now they aren’t even going to give us the little bit of happy reconciliation before they tear that away. Even Rumbelle got more than that (not much…but a little more). lol maybe I should just stick with Snow and Charming…seems the only romance with any lasting happiness in it.

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@RumplesGirl wrote:

@Mich7 wrote:

But if she is there with him and witnessing all of this then she must know something which means if Neal is the one that told her then they are obviously close…and we have yet to see her with August at all…every time she shows up it’s with Neal.

Honestly, my heart is sinking right now…perhaps this is why MRJ is only a recurring character and not a regular…which is the same thing with Tamara…both with optional pickups for season 3. They may use Neal to deal with Emma’s heartbreak and move on. 🙁

Unless Tamara is Tinkerbell and Neal is Peter Pan, then that might explain their closeness. Or maybe not even Tinkerbell, because I think that might be the BF, but another fairy dispatched by the BF to keep an eye on NealFire Pan. If Emma and Neal aren’t supposed to be together as a True Love couple…then WHO is she supposed to be with?? Forgive me CaptainSwaners, but I really don’t see her with Hook. I think they can flirt and there are similarities, but she is clearly supposed to be with Neal.

Unfortunately I questioned whether Neal was her end game romance when they did not make MRJ a regular. Which really bites since they went out of their way to make it such a wonderful romance in Tallahassee but then they are going to make Milah and Rumple’s seem good as well. Well at least I’m prepared for disappointment…that’s why I check out spoilers…to brace myself.

The actress that plays Tamara is also on The Walking Dead…maybe I’ll get lucky and see her eaten by a zombie 😈 lol or I’ll just imagine that every time I see her on screen with Neal.

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@RumplesGirl wrote:

@slurpeez108 wrote:

Looks like Tamara and Neal (Sonequa Martin-Green & Michael Raymond-James, respectively) are standing together in SB. Maybe they’re an item after all. 😮

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. *joins in SwanFire prayer circle*

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@Phee wrote:

Hmmm, I’m still not convinced that they’re a couple. If she’s just someone he was with on the outside, they’re not just gonna invite her to come back to town and reveal all their secrets to her.

Me either. I don’t think Neal would do that. I think he honestly has been waiting 11 years for Emma.

But if she is there with him and witnessing all of this then she must know something which means if Neal is the one that told her then they are obviously close…and we have yet to see her with August at all…every time she shows up it’s with Neal.

Honestly, my heart is sinking right now…perhaps this is why MRJ is only a recurring character and not a regular…which is the same thing with Tamara…both with optional pickups for season 3. They may use Neal to deal with Emma’s heartbreak and move on. 🙁

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Considering that fact that we know they reveal whats in the box I would imagine that it is the real Neal…only he and August know what Neal saw.

And as for recognizing her voice…possible…but since they made a big deal out of Emma knowing how to find someone who is hiding in that scene and later Gold tells Henry his son is adept at running it’s quite possible that Neal simple recognized the tactic of saying she had a delivery as a way to get him to open the door and catch him.

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@Phee wrote:

We know that Nealfire stipulates that the conversation with Rumple only last for 3 minutes, which means that he isn’t keen to talk to him at all.

lol he gives his dad 1 minute more than he gave August:

from Tallahassee:

Neal: How do you know Emma?

August: Name’s August. And it’s a long story, but trust me – you want to hear it.

Neal: Alright, August. If you’re not a cop, who are you? You got two minutes.

But in the end Neal listened…I wonder if things won’t be as bad as I think they will and the Nealfire/Rumple confrontation will parallel the Neal/August one and by the end of it things will have calmed down.

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Blue Fairy is the most obvious choice…and really the only one I can think of that could even pull it off. I mean where did Rumple get the idea for the curse in the first place…BF. If the spine chilling event is in one of Rumple’s flashbacks and this is in the span of the seer (who I would assume is mortal) then the only person that is old enough to really show up in that flashback would be the BF. I also don’t find it a coincidence that BF was involved in both August and Bae’s trips to our world…and since we are going to get to see what was in the box I’m thinking it may have a connection with her.

And I agree with Phee on this…people that are seeing the rough cut are making assumptions based on their own perceptions. While the BF may have been behind the whole thing in the end it does not mean that she did it with evil intent…the goal of the whole final battle is to restore the happy endings…it’s possible that all of this had to take place to get to that point.

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While I do think Cora and Regina are going to double cross Hook I think the map may be legit.

Spoiler:

Question: I’m really hating that Belle has amnesia on Once Upon a Time. I already went through it with Charming, now I have to go through it with my favorite female character. Please tell me you have some Belle scoop. —Becca
Ausiello: Though Belle’s memory is still MIA in this Sunday’s episode, “Manhattan,” that doesn’t keep her from kinda-sorta pointing Regina to the location of Rumplestiltskin’s most prized possession. (And in doing so, she gives that nosy Greg Mendel yet another damning bit of evidence that Storybrooke is no ordinary burg.)

Don’t know how Greg winds up benefiting from it though. And can I just say from that clip that Barbara Hershey’s hair is gorgeous.

As for Neal running…might not be her voice that tipped him…like Gold tells Henry later…his son is adept at running…as much as Emma knows how to spot someone who is hiding…Neal probably knows how to recognize when he’s being tracked.

Then again he stayed away from Emma and Storybrook for some reason or another…I guess it could be Emma just as well as Gold. I think I am dreading this episode as much as looking forward to it…really still haven’t recovered from the events in The Outsider and In the Name of the Brother and now another emotional nail biter…I’ll probably be looking for that funny line from Charming as much as anything else just so I can make it through.

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