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@Josephine wrote:

Oh, that definitely wasn’t their first time together in that hotel room. I’m not even sure that was where Henry was conceived. The purpose of the hotel scene was to show us their willingness to settle down and start a new life together…a counterpoint to what really happened. It emphasized that their dreams never did come true and fate often has its own plans. 🙁

Exactly I think we just got flashes of their relationship. One of the things I wish they had included was the scene that Neal talked about with August…where they promised they would take care of each other. Neal is so raw in when he tells August that…it gets me everytime.

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@Gypsy wrote:

No, it would still be extremely creepy to have Emma be romantically involved with her baby daddy’s, mother’s former lover.

Totally agree.

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@Lil’Red wrote:

…..and no promotional pictures, nothing official at least. Which feels weird since I keep seeing photos of Snow's motherall over the place…but I guess they have a lot of spoilers in this one. 😀

Yeah…odd that there are no promo shots…is every shot they got a spoiler or something. They could give us something even if it’s just Emma talking on the cell phone.

On the poll…don’t think that all of that is pre-Tallahassee stuff…I know of another forum where there are some posters who have questioned whether Neal is really Henry’s father…you can even explain it’s been confirmed by the writers and they don’t get it. Even had one say he thought that Emma might have gotten pregnant after she went to prison. Honestly I think it may be that some people just don’t want him to be Henry’s father more than they don’t think he is. imo

And to the comment about the hotel room…I don’t think that was their first time. Maybe it’s just my interpretation but when he takes off his shirt when they enter the hotel room and says you want to shower first I got the impression that he meant together…I mean they only had 20 minutes (I think that was what they said in the previous scene)…not a lot of time to be modest…I got the feeling that they had showered together before. I think the hotel room was when Henry was probably conceived but I just feel like it wasn’t the first time they had been together…but maybe that’s just me…and they do leave a lot open to personal interpretation since they don’t really show that much imo.

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@Chexmex325 wrote:

I’m interested to see how they’re gonna cover this up in regards to Greg Mendel lol…I mean its hard to miss a freakin’ giant 😆

I was wondering about that earlier myself…hope he doesn’t look out the hospital window.

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Hopefully, If she is put in charge of Belle and she does wind up being like this Nurse Ratched, it won’t take long for Rumple to find out.

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@SpinningGold wrote:

@Mich7 wrote:

The only time I’ve really seen any true cowardice is when he was with Belle and wouldn’t tell her the truth for fear of losing her…Rumple’s motivation for whatever he does(whether brave or cowardly) is always tied to the people he loves imo.

I think that might not be cowardness after all. More like sacrifice. Think of it for a moment: He has done everything to keep the promise to his son the past 300 year. But he needs his magic for that (or at least is convinced he does) If Belle “cures” him of that, it’s gone.So he gets mad. Now let’s go a step further. Maybe Rumpelstiltskin knows the ingredients he need for the curse: True love and the heart of what he loves most. Both can be found in Belle. So he would need to sacrifice her for his son. And part of him would, certainly. He has placed his son above everything. But he loves Belle too. He probably knows himself enough to know he can’t trust himself with such a temptation. So he makes the only decision he can: to send her away.

I actually wasn’t even thinking about when he sent Belle away when I posted that (and I do agree with you on that) but I was thinking more of when he didn’t tell her that he killed Milah because he was afraid of losing her. I think that is a trait that is pretty common in most of us.

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@PriceofMagic wrote:

[ “I wonder if Zozo (the previous Dark One) chose Rumple because he saw The Full Monty.”

Yes! He saw Rumpel’s rear of the year and thought: “That would look great, clad in skin thight leather.” 😆

But on a more serious note, I don’t think Zoso considered Rumpel’s intelligence. He saw a desperate man that would go to any length to save his son.
I think it is interesting to see how Robert Carlyle plays these parts of a self-sacrificing father, seeing his own background where his mom left him as a small kid (I keep forgetting if it is 4 or 6) and he has being raised by his dad. There seems to be such despair and yet fight in him. It is beautiful to watch, also because he conveys such an enormous love in it. It is conveyed through every action, which makes himsuch a wonderful actor. I think Carlyle himself would have followed his son through the portal though… but then there would have been no story.

True there would have been no story but there is always a chance that there may be more to it…with this prophecy thing coming up I’m wondering just how much Rumple may have known. On the surface it looks like Rumple let go of Bae because he didn’t want to give up his power but what if he knew Bae had to go and had to go alone. Not saying they will do something like that but they have been known to go back to previous scenes and add a few things that were intentionally left out and the whole perspective of what happened changes.

Also I think that Rumple’s out of character bravery in stealing that dagger had to do with his motivation…anything for Bae. I think it was Zoso’s goading Rumple about Bae when they were talking that finally pushed Rumple to the point where he could actually kill Zoso. His fear for what might happen to Bae overwhelmed any fear (and cowardice) he might have had for Zoso.

Really Rumple can be brave when he wants to be…I thought it was brave to even approach Hook when he took Milah…Rumple didn’t have the experience fighting that Hook did. He’s brave in going out of Storybrook…possibly risking losing his memory if something unforeseen happens(and facing a son that might not forgive him). The only time I’ve really seen any true cowardice is when he was with Belle and wouldn’t tell her the truth for fear of losing her…Rumple’s motivation for whatever he does(whether brave or cowardly) is always tied to the people he loves imo.

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@Phee wrote:

@AngieBelle wrote:

We haven’t really seen the nurse act that mean.

No we haven’t, but she’s not some random nurse, she’s Nurse freaking Ratched, who doesn’t have a rep for being all sweetness and light. 👿 If she’s anything like One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest suggests she is, I’d prefer her to keep her paws off Belle.

I’m just afraid they are going to lock her away again 🙁 Wonder how the visit from Ruby ties in with Greg talking to Belle…if he got to her first he may have made her believe she couldn’t trust anyone so no matter what Ruby tells her she may freak out. I don’t know if I believe Ruby would just go up to her and try to convince her of magic…Maybe she was trying to tell her about her relationship with Gold to jar her memory or something and because Belle associates Gold with magic she freaks out. Right now I’m not sure if Belle is acting the way she is because of what she saw or because she truly is a mental patient…I guess Regina might have seen making her crazy as some kind of poetic justice since she was in love with Rumple (in Regina’s mind …that it would have been crazy to be in love with Rumple).

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Yeah…I didn’t think they would give up on Rumbelle…I just don’t think that it will go all that smoothly after hearing that Jane Espenson interview recently. I would not be surprised at all if it wasn’t a flashback instead of a happy reunion between the two.

I know some people like the angst, but too much of it gets me frustrated after a while…Vampire Diaries being my chief example right now…that triangle (I hate triangles anyway) has gone on far too long imo. I just hope Rumbelle doesn’t go on for that long…same for Swanthief…I love Neal and I love him with Emma but if they put too many obstacles in the way and the writers have her wind up hurting him I would probably want Neal to kick her to the curb…lol I sound like a protective mama bear. 😆

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True that it is unpredictable but never the less true loves kiss has been seen to work in this world (twice) the same way it did in FTL. As for the question of the energy source…very interesting…I would think that it is somehow tied to the true loves potion Rumple used. If that is the source of magic in this world…it probably means that when Emma’s magic is developed she’ll be the most powerful one on this side of the fence. Still a lot of unanswered questions….but then again I’ve still got unanswered questions about Lost.lol

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