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@dena81 wrote:
@HappyEndings wrote:
To be honest I don’t think he is very handsome compared to the Huntsman and August, plus in that Tallahassee Episode he look like a bum and so much older then Emma.
Here’s teh thing it’s not even about looks, it’s about chemistry. In Tallahassee you saw a side of Emma you had never seen before. The same holds true in Manhattan, the way she shook, the hold he still had on her clearly that I don’t even think he really noticed right off the bat. Trust me the Emma tag on Tumblr is so much more now filled with swan thief it’s nuts (I love it though!). I’ve seen a lot of fencers and even other shippers go and say they now like Swan Thief, so I have seen an increase in fans.
Exactly…the chemistry is really amazing…and I don’t know how people always jump to the conclusion that because a character is popular or well liked that it has to be about looks. I happen to think that Ian Somerhalder is very attractive and I love Damon on Vampire diaries but I absolutely hated Boone on Lost…it was the character that made the difference. Just for the record I do find MRJ attractive but that is my personal taste…not everyone likes the same type of guy.
[adrotate group="5"]@Naomi wrote:
@BeastWhisperer wrote:
That is disturbing that they would consider changing something they’d already laid clues for. It’s like a mystery story where they switch the killer at the last second and then none of the story or clues make sense anymore. Really a bad idea, and not enjoyable for those following along. Glad they didn’t do that, but still scary that they considered it.
There really wasn’t anything about his apartment that said girlfriend. Even in this episode it looked like a bachelor pad with the only memento of a female being Emma’s dreamcatcher. Since Henry was told to hide in the bathroom, one would think he’d be old enough to notice a second toothbrush too. LOL
That really irked me too! I wonder how much fans’ opinions factor into the writing of the show? The reason I worry is because Neal has been getting a LOT of flak from some fans since Tallahassee, and I hope that doesn’t convince the writers to give him less screen time or kill him off based on those reactions. They should write the story how they planned to write it. And in my opinion, Baelfire is one of the best original characters on the show. (Although he’s probably going to be another FTL character too…)
Well, I guess we can expect a lot of disturbing things coming from Adam and Eddy in the upcoming weeks. If the theories are right, we’re potentially going to see at least three big shockers in the upcoming episodes (!!!!!*spoilers*): Tamara as Neal's fiancee, August turning back into a seven-year-old boy, and Cora and Rumple having some sort of love affair. 😕 I…I'm not really excited to see any of those things happen to be honest, but oh well. I'll keep watching of course.
Poor Emma. I just want her to be happy again. (mopes)
On several of the websites I’ve seen he seems to be pretty popular and well liked…and easily one of the characters that is discussed the most. I look at it this way…at least we’ve got him for this season…would love to have him as a regular but at the very least having him on for the rest of the season is better than having to wait from Episode 1 to Episode 6 to Episode 14…and those waits just to see Neal on the show included hiatus so waiting was doubly dreadful imo.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
Yeah the “Every Single Week” bit is pretty laughable. We’ve had how many hiatuses just this second half of the season so far???!
Are they going to try and hit May sweeps? If they are we’ll probably have another one at some point.
Anyway…promo showed nothing new 🙁 …at least we should get clips this week 😀
I’m sure Henry would love it if his parents were together but I don’t see him trying to make that happen if Emma doesn’t show some sort of forgiveness towards Neal…she really made Neal sound bad when she was talking to Henry….like she wanted to forget her past and move on. I think it would take Emma getting past her emotions and Henry seeing some sort of warmth between the two before he would get it into his head that they belonged together.
@Naomi wrote:
I agree. ^This will definitely hurt me too. As a Swanfire shipper the worst thing that could happen is if they just move on and don’t even address a romantic possibility between Emma and Bae for long time.
Maybe…maybe Rumple will inadvertently do something to break up Neal and Tamara. He usually has some role in ruining his son’s relationships. With Bae and Morraine it was the whole Dark One thing…with Bae and Emma it was cursing her parents and forcing her to save Storybrooke.
Yup. Here’s hoping Bae and Tamara don’t stand a chance against Rumple’s shenanigans. 😆 If that doesn’t work, I hope (like other people have mentioned) that Tamara will simply fall for someone else.
I’ve been thinking that Rumple might not even like Tamara. Whether she is FTL or not…she is not part of SB…not one of them…not part of the curse…and not privy to the things that go on in SB…she is an outsider no matter what she may know or who she may be.
Emma on the other hand has magic…magic that Rumple has always been interested in and in spite of their ups and downs Emma and Rumple have had dealings. He knows her…and now she is the mother of his grandchild. I think that he would favor Emma over Tamara as Neal’s other half.
Also there may be a fear on Rumple’s part that Tamara might want Neal to return to Manhattan whereas Rumple would naturally want him to stay in SB. Emma may also want him to stay in SB at the very least for Henry. I can also see Tamara maybe suggesting that Henry return with her and Neal to Manhattan for his safety…something I don’t see going over well with Emma.
@PriceofMagic wrote:
I can see Tamara being all sweetness and light in front of Neal but then in private warning Emma to back off from Neal. However, when Regina tried that tactic with Emma in season 1 to get Emma out of town, it only made Emma want to stay instead. Perhaps Tamara trying to warn Emma off instead makes Emma realise she still has feelings for Bae.
Yeah…if we have to have her on at least maybe something good can come of it…I’m just bothered by the fact that it seems that she is still clingingto Neal in the pictures from S,B and T…August interfered in both Emma and Neal’s life…I get that Emma had to be the onetalking to August as he is lying there but to have Tamara standing next to Neal while it’s going on just seems like a major kick in the gut…like adding fuel to the fire and making it more painful than it has to be by showing just how much was really lost.
Maybe that’s what they are going for to make it more dramatic but it doesn’t make me very happy. Of course the alternative is worse…that since she is standing with all of them there that they have accepted her as a part of the group or family and they all get along and Emma is happy that Neal has found someone and I think I’m gonna hurl…I don’t want them to play nice…they did that with MM and Kathryn.
Considering that she’s someone who doesn’t stop until she gets what she wants I doubt she will back off if she’s after Neal….Neal will more than likely have to break it off with her for her to get the message and who knows she may be one of those that still tries to cause trouble even after she has lost…maybe cat fight time between her and Emma.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
@Mich7 wrote:
I just really want to know why Tamara is being brought in myself. Someone said that the writers debated whether or not to change their original game plan (in making Henry’s father Bae) because the fans had already guessed it. It makes me wonder what other things they might be debating on changing because of fan response. A lot of people thought that Neal looked completely alone in that clip from Broken…not saying that he and Tamara are living together but the scene did give a lonely bachelor vibe to it. Gotta wonder if they had Tamara in mind at that point or if she was thought up later on…because imo she seems totally unnecessary to keep Swanfire apart…they have other unresolved issues that separate them right now.
The creators said in their official podcast for Manhattan that they thought about changing Neal is Bae because “our fans are so smart and they figured it out really early!” The actress playing Tamara is around for the rest of the season with an option to pick up for three, but if fans are really negative (which judging just on this entire thread…) maybe they’ll write her off early in season three.
Would be nice if she left at least by the last episode of this season…never to return because Swanfire reunites like Season 1 Snow and PC…let’s face it we haven’t seen Kathyrn in a long time.
@Rapunzel_is_a_Ginger wrote:
In Manhattan, Neal tells her, “I was just trying to get you home…” In the season opener, Henry asks “Why is everyone still here?” Neal, like everyone else, may have thought that when the curse was broken, that everyone would return to FTL, without realizing that Rumple’s endgame on the curse was actually to find him. I think this makes Bae/Neal’s decision to walk away a bit more heroic and self-sacrificing. He could have been selfish and clung to her, but there’s no way she could have broken the curse WITH Neal at her side… Think about it… He goes back to Storybrooke with her, and catches sight of Mr. Gold — whether Gold recognized him or not, Bae/Neal would have run. This might also come back to some intervention on the part of August, because if he knew about Bae, then he knew Rumple’s ultimate goal, and would have made sure Neal stayed away without telling Neal the whole story. If Neal had known breaking the curse was to find him, he WOULD have taken Emma and run. (And if Neal actually knew Rump’s goal was to find him and he still let Emma go, then that’s even worse because it means sacrificing her would lead to the one thing he feared most, seeing his father again.)
I’ve seen a couple of comments on his expression when he receives the post card — how he didn’t seem to be happy, presumably because he’s now “moved on.” Not necessarily. He could have been thinking “she’s gone now” which would also explain the flicker of a smile when she runs into him in Manhattan. That whole, “What are you doing here?” could have been him assuming that she hadn’t broken the curse after all, until she puts it together and flips out on him.
Personally I think that when Neal said he was just trying to get her home he meant re-uniting her with her parents.
The whole Emma/Neal plot in Tallahassee ended by pointing them towards getting a home(it’s even the last thing Emma says as Neal walks away from her to go fence the watches)…but that night Neal found out that he was the reason that Emma had been ripped from her home. Can you imagine the guilt and pain of finding out that all the pain and misery that the person you loved most in the world was because of you? He did the right thing by leaving…setting her on the course that would eventually reunite her with her family…he was giving her the one thing she had wanted all her life…her family and a home…and he sacrificed his own happiness to do that. The problem is that once again he becomes responsible for causing her pain…he can’t win for losing.
As for his expression when he received the postcard…I’ve always saw that as fear…he swallows hard when he first sees it. I think that deep down he knew that once Emma broke the curse there was the possibility that his father might find him but he had to take that chance because he had promised Emma a home (perhaps it was not the one she thought would be but it was the one she was meant to have in SB with her parents). And this kind of reveals Bae’s self-sacrificing personality…he’s always been willing to give up everything to do what was right or save someone (like he did when he was willing to give up his own home and everything he knew to save Rumple).
I do think that Emma will insist they bring Hook along…she’s still the Sheriff and responsible for the citizens of SB and for now Hook is a resident of SB…she’s not just going to leave him on an unsuspecting world to cause trouble. Of course why do I get the feeling if he stayed outside of SB for too long the guys in white coats would come for him…”You think you’re who?!” 😀
Anyway RumplesGirl, I don’t know how early they’ll hint around at Peter Pan (and Tinkerbell if Tamara turns out to be her) but I like your idea of betrayal.
I just really want to know why Tamara is being brought in myself. Someone said that the writers debated whether or not to change their original game plan (in making Henry’s father Bae) because the fans had already guessed it. It makes me wonder what other things they might be debating on changing because of fan response. A lot of people thought that Neal looked completely alone in that clip from Broken…not saying that he and Tamara are living together but the scene did give a lonely bachelor vibe to it. Gotta wonder if they had Tamara in mind at that point or if she was thought up later on…because imo she seems totally unnecessary to keep Swanfire apart…they have other unresolved issues that separate them right now.
