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@HappyEndings wrote:
As for the stuff people are saying about “Her”…if I’m not mistaken I think they said somewhere that “Her” was not important
That is what I thought and the license plate too. 😕
Yes I do believe they included the licence plate as well…that neither it nor “Her” were important.
[adrotate group="5"]lol some people are saying that the fact that the spoiler says that Emma isn’t going to forgive Neal or ask for him to be in her life romantically that it means that they are never going to get back together 🙄 Where do people get this stuff from…eventually she’ll have to forgive him…it’s called character development…and if one happens so can the other…besides they said over the next few episodes that she would be dealing with emotional baggage…I bet she’ll forgive him after or during Selfless, Brave, and True. I’m not saying that they’ll get back together but saying that it won’t happen over the course of the season because of a spoiler for one specific episode is a little ridiculous…and yes it is for one episode because it says she finds out about the fiancee when she is in the midst of asking him about being in Henry’s life.
It’s like saying that the Charmings are about to split the sheets and go their separate ways because there was a spoiler about there being trouble between them because PC wanted to return to FTL and Snow wanted to stay in our world.
As for the stuff people are saying about “Her”…if I’m not mistaken I think they said somewhere that “Her” was not important.
Thought of this as well…we started off the season with a Phillip/Aurora/Mulan triangle where they were experimenting with the two loves at the same time (#@%#! lol don’t get me started)…Phillip supposedly fell for Mulan as they were looking for Aurora. My thinking is that Neal may have fallen for Tamara as he was waiting for Emma to become free. We do see them supposedly meet (I am assuming for the first time) in Selfless, Brave, and True…and I’m thinking that August in those pictures may have been going to Storybrook to move Emma along. So this romance with Tamara is a recent one…at least imo…just from what few clues we have thus far.
While it does feel like Kathyrn all over again I bet they parallel it with the Phillip/Aurora/Mulan storyline by bringing it back in the last episode the same way they brought back Snow and PC first season and both Phillip and Neal will have to make a choice of who they want to be with (provided Emma rediscovers her feelings for Neal).
And another thing…I’m not familiar with the Frog Princess but from what I’ve read doesn’t she fall in love with the frog prince while they are on a journey to have him marry someone else (Disney version) (much like the Mulan/Aurora/Phillip stuff).
@AntBee wrote:
Yep…the repetitive stuff is really starting to get on my nerves but this does at least explain the option for season three in both SMG and MRJ’s character descriptions for Tamara and Neal instead of making them regulars. Neal is probably just in this to help Emma and Rumple move on.
Have hope. I think they left it open because they didn’t want to just come right out in the casting call that these two characters are going to be very important and be around a lot next season too, but agents looking for work for their clients, probably know that’s code for those characters being regulars next season or major recurring characters because they would have to know that their clients have to have the schedule to be able to do the role if chosen.
It might be a regular love triangle with Tamara really being an outsider, but I don’t think she’d stick around too long in Storybrooke if she really were an outsider. I also don’t think they’re going to write off Nealfire so soon as just someone to give closure to Rumple and Emma after being the reason that the Curse was created in the first place. Maybe SwanFire won’t be endgame, but I’m sure Nealfire will eventually be on good terms with the rest of Henry’s family including Emma since I think Henry will ultimately get his happy ending which at the very least includes the main members of his family getting along with each other even if his biological parents don’t get back together. There’s a lot more that Nealfire can do besides giving them closure, so I think MRJ will be a regular at least next season. I’m not sure about Tamara, but if she’s Tinkerbell, I think she could be a regular or a major recurring character next season like Dr. Whale has been this season getting her own episode about her back story season and having some kind of agenda of her own instead of just being Neal’s fiancee.
The fact that she’s in those pictures watching August turn back into a boy again makes me think either Neal has come clean about everything to her (not good news since he entrusted her with his secrets but not Emma) or she’s FTL. It also looks like at that point he is still very much with her. I would hate it is he had been pretending to be engaged to her all that time to get Emma jealous and ended up falling for her. I would see red. lol Her character description says she goes after what she wants until she gets it…My guess is that she’s in Storybrook to ensure that Neal remains hers…if she is the frog princess maybe she’ll get turned into a frog and get squashed. 😈 What?…I have a little bit of Regina in me…what can I say. 😆 Greg also has an option for next year in his character description by the way.
@slurpeez108 wrote:
Well, isn’t that just peachy? It’s Kathryn-David-Mary Margaret love triangle again, only this time without the “we were cursed” excuse. At least we’ll get to see Killian flirt with Emma in the mean time and make Baelfire jealous. 😆
Yep…the repetitive stuff is really starting to get on my nerves but this does at least explain the option for season three in both SMG and MRJ’s character descriptions for Tamara and Neal instead of making them regulars. Neal is probably just in this to help Emma and Rumple move on. Of course I recall a comment that the writers gave that said there were people that you were not supposed to be with and people you were meant to be with and people you just choose and that Emma would face all of those. I wonder if the people you just choose isn’t someone she chooses but Tamara…in that Neal chose her so that he could have a normal life…never the less I do think this is kind of stupid…the complications between them are already there…no need to add to it with a fiancee….much too much like a soap opera move imo.
And if she is a fairytale character I’m going to go with Frog princess for now.
ETA: I do think that it is interesting that the word complicated was used…what’s complicated about it…Emma doesn’t want to be in a relationship with him and he’s moved on and they are trying to get along with each other for the sake of the child…using that word makes me think she still has feelings for him and vice versa…don’t know if that gives me reason to hope or not…Regina couldn’t go back to Daniel and Hook to Milah…maybe that is the direction this season…the past is over and it’s time to move forward…cause seriously I haven’t had a clue as to what the focus for this season has been 😕 Last season was easy…breaking the curse.
@AntBee wrote:
@EastOfTheSun wrote:
Im sorry you feel that way Malchore…=( sorry to disagree but to me this storyline thought predictable, is genius!! It makes me love the show even more! the poetry and the irony of “the savior of the curse” + “the reason behind the curse”, meeting in our world, is pure magic, for me it talks about fate and destiny, and that when two people are meant to meet, nothing can stop that…maybe im just a hopeless romantic, and like these types of stories… Also that makes Henry 100% from fairytale land, like the seer said he is more than he seems, so I bet he is going to be powerful!! so all of this is part of his history, his fairytale, and that gets me excited!!
This is why I ship SwanFire so hard! (Yes, Neal has a lot to make up for; although, Emma was no saint herself tonight.)
This is my thinking as well…it’s the perfect modern day fairytale thus far…perhaps when Neal was asking Emma if she didn’t think something good came out of it and that it was maybe fate I think that was his way of saying he thought they were meant to be. I really don’t think he has given up on her even though like you say Emma was no saint in the episode…in fact she was very unlikable to me…not even wanting Henry to tell Neal his age and then bad mouthing Neal to Henry ( saying he was a bad guy). I think deep down she might have just been trying to make herself look better than Neal because she thought she had messed up so much that Henry might want to be with Neal rather than her. Regina tried that with Henry as well…telling him Emma was nothing but a con. Hate to say it but I think she totally deserved the comment that she was just like Regina.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
WHOA! That’s a great find!!!
I’ve always been of the opinion that Milah and Hook didn’t go to Neverland, but I really have no evidence to support this, other than that Bae wasn’t with Milah and Hook on his ship. And at the time it seemed like Milah loved Bae and would have brought him with her and Hook on their adventures. Especially after she learned that Rumple abandoned Bae.Yeah I don’t think that Milah ever met back up with Bae after she left and despite getting the feeling that Bae may have went through numerous lands at one point I believe he was probably already in Neverland by the time Hook got there. I wonder if Hook figured out who he was and that is the reason for the rivalry…perhaps he had been chasing Bae throughout Neverland to capture him and get information out of him about a way to kill his father…and at some point Bae left Neverland and that’s when Hook went back to FTL to find Belle.
Since the promo hints that he knows Hook perhaps he knows what really happened to Milah already as well. I could see Hook using that information to get him angry enough with his father to want him killed and spill the information about the dagger (personally I don’t think Bae would ever give that up to him but it doesn’t mean Hook may not have tried).
@TheGoldenKey wrote:
I believe that Rumple’s undoing doesn’t mean destruction as in death. I think it means undoing as in reverting back to his real self, pre Dark One days. In my mind, I think Rumple will end up sacrificing himself for the sake of young Henry. Interesting that they made Rumple the Beast, who in the real story, dies and is transformed and resurrected by Belle. In Narnia, we see the White Witch use a dagger to kill Aslan who had sacrificed himself for the Narnians. The story of giving up one’s life in sacrifice holds no copyright because it’s the oldest and truest story ever told . So I would hope that we will see Rumple give the ultimate sacrifice, his life for Henry’s, and in turn we see the Dark One die, dagger is shattered and the real Rumple is saved, transformed and resurrected just as the Beast was.
I think this is the most likely scenario imo….I think that Gold’s bonding with Henry before the showdown with Nealfire was the first step in Rumple developing a true love for his grandson which will eventually motivate him to give his life for Henry. But I guess the Charmings would then have to rely solely on the BF and Emma in any future battles…unless we get some sort of amazing transformation and Rumple all of a sudden can do good magic.
Yeah…forgot about Rumple and his dad…I thought we were supposed to actually see a flashback of that…of course after this episode I kind of wonder if the prophecy wasn’t a self-fulfilling one. They did tell Rumple the seer was crafty (or something to that affect)…the Dark One tricked Rumple into taking his power and the seer essentially did the same (though it took a while to get to that point). Neither the Zoso or the Seer wanted their powers anymore. lol and I guess Nealfire takes after his dad in that area as well…about listening to people that he doesn’t know very well and taking their advice (Pinocchio).
@slurpeez108 wrote:
Would love to know what someone thinks about this one…needs to be blown up or something…for me all I can think is that it looks like a nutcracker.
The truth is “for whatever reason good or bad” all three, Rumple, Emma, and Neal abandoned someone…their child or their girl and so far the only one that has really been forgiving is Henry. I do think Henry forgiving Emma in the first place went a long way in bringing Emma to the place where she could forgive Snow and PC. That kid has an affect and that’s why I think Rumple’s undoing may have more to do with him ceasing to be the Dark One than him dying.
