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I think Rumpel, like Snow and Emma, can have 2 true loves. A romantic love, demonstrated by Rumpel’s love for Belle, and the love of a child, demonstrated by Rumpel’s love for Baelfire. To be honest, I think a kiss from either Belle or Bae would do the trick. Either one of them could possibly break Rumpel’s curse. We’ve alreay seen that Belle’s kiss can break Rumpel’s curse, but I’m pretty certain that Bae’s love would work too. So, can someone have more than 1 true love? Yes. But can they have more than 1 ROMANTIC true love? In the OUAT universe, unfortunately, no.
But I’m not complaining. My shipper heart is content. 😀
[adrotate group="5"]No, I don’t think Rumpel stole Bae. The whole “first-born children” thing is something that started after he became the Dark One. In his two flashbacks during his early days as the Dark One, first borns weren’t mentioned at all. I think he developed this obsession well after he became the Dark One.
I love the idea that only those who posses their own personal true love can activate the magic of true love. It makes sense. Magic has numerous rules, prices and punishments. There are various different things that one must accomplish in order to create magic. So, it would make sense that only those who have true love in their life can use the magic of true love.
@darcyfarrow wrote:
@Josephine wrote:
My one main criticism with “Skin Deep” is, although she stated she’s been there months, that the story seemed rushed. This series seriously likes to drag stuff out and BAM! the whole story happens in one episode. I realize why they did it that way story wise. And it makes sense, but anothe part of me thinks it would have been more impactful if they had drug it out like Snow’s story.
I wonder if that’s why there’s so much Rumbelle fan fiction–people feel like not enough of the story was told. I for one am relieved to hear that others feel some of the Once storylines are rushed. I’ve been thinking perhaps I was the only fan who felt that way, and that perhaps it was a generational difference, as I grew up in a time when a tv episode lasted 50 or so minutes, and a season had 32 episodes, so writers could move storylines along more slowly. I hope the Once writers will someday publish the series bible so we can see more of what they had in mind.
To be perfectly honest, I think their relationship felt rushed because the writers spend so much time focusing on MM and David and their constant, and quite frankly tedious, push-and-pull relationship that they forget to develop of the parts of the overall story. I think that’s why the writers made sure to have Belle by Mr. Gold’s side for the season 1 cliffhanger. That’s why they’re planning on heavily featuring Belle in season 2. They know they only had a certain amount of time during season 1 to introduce this relationship, so they’re making up for it season 2. So the rushed nature of Skin Deep is forgiveable when viewed in that light. Just as long as they develop the pairing in seaon 2, then all is forgiven
And as far as fanfiction goes, I think it’s mixture of the two. There’s so much of it because, yes, the writers have only given fans 2 episodes to work with. So, fanfic writers have to fill in the blanks or make up their own version of what happened. But also, popular couples tend to have a lot of fanfiction. That’s just a fact. No matter how many scenes and storylines Belle and Rumpel recieve in season 2, the amount of Rumbelle fanfiction is still going to increase.
@hjbau wrote:
He is a character on a show. He has no rights. I only think about the character in terms of what does he do for the plot. And what he can do for the plot is be a villain which is what he is good at, in my opinion.
And the situation is abusive. As someone who understands that situation, it is abusive. And the fact that he let her leave does not mean that the situation was not abusive. It was. And Belle did seem afraid to me. I just don’t see anything romantic about that and as someone who understands what that situation is like in real life, i don’t think it is funny. I wish that everyone could understand where i am coming from and not that i just think that i want Rumpel gone.
Although I agree with you that Belle and Rumpel’s initial relationship was definitely very scary and had hints of abuse, it’s difficult for me criticize their relationship too harshly because like Josephine said, that is the story of Beauty and the Beast. EVERY version of the tale had the Beast mistreating Belle, and quite frankly, scaring the living hell out of her. So, the writers of OUAT captured that aspect of the tale perfectly. People have gotten so used the watered down Disney version of the tale, that people tend to forget what this story is really about. It’s dark, it’s scary, it’s supposed to be complex and thought-provoking. And even though the Disney version does show you how terrifyung the Beast is in numerous scenes, it’s immediately counterd by a lovely upbeat song that makes you forget about what you just saw. So, Rumpel’s behavior towards Belle is actually staying true to the original source material and all its other incarnations.
Now, does that make it ok? Sweet Jesus no! But that’s the tale. Some have criticized OUAT for making Beauty and the Beast’s story way too dark, but once again, the story IS dark. It always has been. And yet, in nearly every version of the story, Belle falls in love with the Beast. So, the story’s flaws actually lie in the original source material rather than the show’s handling of the story.
Well, that’s the strange thing, isn’t it? When Rumpel/Gold was acting as the simple, black and white villain, he didn’t seem to have many fans. But after Desperate Souls and Skin Deep aired, he developed one of the biggest fan bases in the entire fandom. So, judging by numbers, Rumpel is actually better at playing the sympathetic villain or the anti-hero. Most of the admiration his character recieves is based off of his actions in Skin Deep, Desperate Souls and even The Return. I think the audience prefers to do what the writers have clearly done: Keep him in the middle. Between good and evil. He always makes for a good villain, but people tend to respond to a more sympathetic, or evil anti-heroic character, as opposed to the simple, stereotypical villain.
@NONNIE wrote:
WHY ARE WE WORRIED ABOUT THE END OF THE SERIES…. LETS NOT HURRY IT ALONG…. LET US JUST ENJOY WHAT IS….
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MASSIVE APPLAUSE!!!!!
I completely agree. I ‘d rather enjoy the ride instead of worrying about who’s going to die at the end of the series. 😉
@NONNIE wrote:
The writers seemed to be replicating the middle ages during Rumbles stories but EQ and Snow are much later in time more like the 1700s in costumes and environment.
In the middle ages, the lord of the manor had the right to be the first with a serfs bride ( virgins) or the pick of any woman in the village or farms. It was the custom and many babies were born as bastards from that practice.
The Dukes/ Lords of the manor and rulers have right over life and death over the peasants. They often would kick a farmer off the fields turning them out whenever they wanted. It was much akin to slavery. There were more haneous practices. I think the story will evolve that Rumple’s wife was taken by the lord of the manor as was the custom and that is why Bae is considered a bastard… he probably born 9 months or less after their marriage. Maybe Rumples wife was angry the Rumple could not / would not protect her and that is why she bailed.
Nonnie
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Wow! Great theory! I remember something similar happening in the movie “Braveheart.” The newlywed bride was taken by one of the wealthier men and raped on her wedding night. I wouldn’t be surprised if this happened to Rumpel’s wife. And like A_Desperate_Soul already stated, it would make sense for Rumpel’s story. His entire life has been filled with tragedy. This would just be one more unfortunate event to add to his list.
I feel like we’re overthinking this a tad too much. 😆 The duke was taunting Rumpel, as was the Dark One. Of course, it could all come out in later episodes that Bae is in fact a bastard. But for the most part, I think it was just mean-spirited taunting on the part of the Duke and the Dark One.
@NONNIE wrote:
@The_Savior wrote:
So, I was watching this episode again and one of the guards mentioned that Bae might not even be Rumpel’s son because Bae was braver than him. I know this is probably because he was mocking him, but he also mentioned that Bae was a bastard.
So does this mean that Rumpel had a wife because he got her pregnant? Is Bae even his son?
What do you guys think?
The things that happen to you is what makes you who you are. A man that takes on, protects and loves the child of another man, is a REAL MAN. I feel that regardless of who fathered Bae, Rumple is his father in every sense of the word.
The story will unravel in time. I think it will be an interesting story to follow.
Nonnie
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I completely agree. It take s a lot to raise a child that you know in your heart probably isn’t yours (if that’s the case). I don’t doubt for one second Rumpel’s love for Baelfire. It’s quite obvious that he loves him. Almost too much.
The_Savior, I feel the exact same way! Don’t be ashamed! 😆 Fortunately, the way Rumpel and the evil duke both spoke about her made me think that they had a very turbulent relationship. So, there was probably very little love involved. Especially if the rumors about his wife leaving him for another man are true. And besides, it’s already been established that Belle is Rumpel’s true love via the kiss in “Skin Deep.” So, I wouldn’t worry about it too much. 😀
