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By the time this scene occurs, Henry will have had a year of living in NYC so he’s unlikely to be as sheltered as he has been. He probably has a cell phone, too, for Emma to keep track of him. Not sure where running away came from, but I’ll need more convincing that Henry ran away. Maybe Henry and Hook are just talking and it’s character growth for both and not much more.
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mollyParticipantHenry sees Hook doing something that might appear shady to his active imagination and confronts Hook.
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mollyParticipantIf it’s Neal, then Rumple can’t have his happy ending. Would A&E really destroy Rumple that way? If it’s Henry, no one gets a happy ending since Regina, Emma, and Neal won’t get over the death of their child and Rumple, Snow and Charming will be devastated so see their children suffer. If one of the major story arcs of the entire series is Rumple’s redemption, his path back to being a good man, then killing Belle defeats the goal. Phee and Slupeez made interesting points about the actual ratings not matching the massive Hook push put forth by ABC marketing so the argument, “But he’s so popular!” might not get Hook anywhere. I am sorry that a character is dying. If we’re at a point where a character is no longer needed then anyone can be put on “magical ice” on this show to return at a later point.
I loved Nasty Habits. Rumple saw his son in a whole new light and was in awe. 🙂
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mollyParticipantPeople have made a lot of great gif sets. Wow. In the gif set on this page, I’m looking at the scene of Neal touching Emma’s back and thinking that the move is similar to Emma running her hand on Henry’s back at the end of Going Home when Henry told her/teased her that she forgot the cinnamon.
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mollyParticipantI wonder if the writers were specifically avoiding opportunities for an Emma/Neal kiss. There wasn’t even an innocent kiss on the cheek as they said goodbye. I agree with the people who believe that when a kiss does happen it will be epic and a clear demonstration of true love. Maybe it will bring back Emma and Neal’s happy smiles, too.
Happy New Year!
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mollyParticipantThat is a disturbing Emma/Hook gif set. But it illustrates why the CS “romance” doesn’t work for me. Leaving someone for dead twice should be a romantic deal breaker in any circumstance.
I look forward to the new perspective on things that Emma will have after regaining her memories. In Emma’s previous reality (real reality?) she gave up Henry and put her feelings in a box, choosing not to deal with them. Her reaction to Neal in Manhattan was raw pain. However, raising Henry will have forced her to deal with Neal and the way he left and to have processed some of her emotions. Not all. Neal left and it still hurts Emma, but everytime Henry makes a friend they both have to address where his dad is. Every parent/teacher conference Emma has to confront Neal’s absence. Anything that happened during the Lost Year are real memories. I think that when Neal and Emma meet again, she will be coming from a different emotional place. Still angry, but not raw.
I loved Emma’s apartment. Emma and Henry had quite a lot of plants and flowers. Subconsciously trying to connect with the Enchanted Forest?
After meeting Henry, did Neal have time to draw his picture? Is that something that Emma could have found in his apartment that has her saying, “This isn’t possible”? The dreamcatcher suggests to Emma that Neal missed her, maybe loved her, and a drawing of Henry suggests that Hook is telling the truth and Neal knew about 11 year old Henry.
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mollyParticipantRanisha Pitts wrote: I’m just about tear up thinking about them all siting around a camp fire sharing funny memories and endearing stories about Emma, Henry, and Rumple.
Snow sharing stories of what Henry was like in school, and Neal just sitting there, intently listening, because it’s the only way he’ll ever be able to get to know his son now. WAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
Snow telling Neal about Henry’s childhood and Neal telling Snow and Charming about Emma’s younger self has lovely symmetry.
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mollyParticipantI thought of another reason the jump ahead is good for SF potentially. A lot of people felt Neal wanting to have another chance with Emma was off-putting to them because it was “five minutes” ago he was engaged and thinking he’d marry Tamara.
People found Neal wanting another chance with Emma offputting due to the recent nature of his engagement? Do these same people have no problem with Hook taunting Emma into kissing him and and imagining he’s in love with Emma 4 – 5 days after leaving her for dead? Did Hook know that everyone in Storybrook would die since the fail safe had been activated? Yes. He left to save his own life. Did he know that Emma would also die? Yes. Did he leave anyway? Yes. In college I had to take an Introduction to Philosophy class and the professor once said that love is not a feeling, it’s an action. His example was that if a man is hitting you with a 2×4, it’s not love, no matter what he says. Hook left Emma for dead at the end of last season and returned after she (and Regina) had already saved the town.
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mollyParticipantIf Hook and Regina can be declared totally redeemed now, is the show over? Where’s the dramatic tension in that? While I understand fans of Hook and Regina wanting the characters to be totally redeemed and good, right now, that doesn’t leave much more story to tell for either character and leaves the show without some darker catalysts for events.
I also noticed that while it wasn’t shown explicitly, Neal stepped between Hook and Emma when he was addressing his father. May or may not mean anything.
We’ve been told, by Emma, that her life experiences included many people using her for their own reasons. She is in a vulnerable place right now, but it would be totally out of character for her to not ever see the superficial nature of Hook’s attention toward her. That’s one of the reasons that I don’t think there’s enough between them upon which to build an actual romantic relationship right now. Hook has to learn how to be a fully funtional adult who is capable of truly caring for others before he can be any kind of man for Emma, and by then both will have moved on. I can’t see Emma being satisfied with a superficial romance, not while juggling maternal responsibilities and learning how to be a cherished daughter.
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mollyParticipantWhen I saw Neal tell Rumple that there would be no deal or price for saving David, I thought it was both a statement of what Neal expects of Rumple and also a means of calling out Hook. While he may not know the specifics, I think Neal has a very good idea of how the Hook/Emma kiss happened. I thought that Neal was challenging Hook’s honor in a way that Hook really couldn’t argue.
It was also an opportunity for Hook to see his actions through some else’s eyes. Hook may truly believe that he is behaving with honor and not realize that others don’t see him that way. This could assist in growing his character.
I really liked Neal, the least magical person, had to row the boat and did it without complaint.
Back to 3.07, I’m not sure that Hook believed Emma’s secret was the Kiss. If he did believe that, what did he consider the basis for Neal hugging Emma? I wonder if Hook didn’t like not knowing and used his talk with Neal to drop his bombshell (in the hopes of destabilizing anything with Neal and Emma) while trying to suss out the actual secret. It didn’t work. Neal treated Emma exactly the same before and after the kiss reveal, but Neal was much different with Hook. And there is still a secret, an emotional intimacy, between Neal and Emma that Hook is not a part of. Emma isn’t going out of her way to make Hook feel like he is a part of her emotional life.
On the spoiler pictures, I’m still not convinced that the Hook/Emma scenes mean anything romantic. I’m capable of relentless optimism, but I’m also an analyst (says so on my business card) and the events happening on the show have not yet created a strong enough foundation to make a Hook/Emma romance plausible to me this soon. If there is show based evidence that Emma truly wants to pursue a relationship with Hook, I’m just not seeing it.
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