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ms. pixieParticipant
haha, I always try to keep my potterhead under control when talking about other fiction worlds, but… well, you started it! 😀
– there’s the love vs. dark magic thing, that is an ancient battle, ok, but, again, remind me of hp!
– and inside Jefferson’s hat, there’s a door that looks like a wall of bricks, and my first though was “platform 9 3/4!!!”.but, when I get too excited I remember we live in a sad sad copyrighted world, and is so very little probable that Disney and Warner, and whoever else is involved, will ever get into an agreement…
[adrotate group="5"]ms. pixieParticipant@disneylover321 wrote:
I was angry that we got to see Rumpel and Belle reunite, Snow and Charming find one another again, but we didn’t get to see Jefferson and Grace. He deserved to see his daughter again after everything and I waited for it, but it never came. I hope we at least get to see the two of them together and happy next season.
P.S. That must be kind of scary for Grace. She’s having dinner and POOF! AH YOU’RE NOT MY PARENTS!!!!
I think we have to remember that will be a season 2! 😉 They didn’t solve every situation – although I liked they solve a lot of them, instead of letting things we were already dying to know, hanging to the next season.
I’m looking forward to see the reunion between Jefferson and Grace, but I think there will be turmoil around it – the last time they saw each other, Jefferson told her he would be right back and vanished. We also don’t know what happened to Grace between that and the curse – who knows? maybe someone else’s story will be ‘played’ by her (kind of like Rumple and the Beast…), there are so many stories with little girls… =]ms. pixieParticipant@TheOnionGirl wrote:
Something’s … off. I mean, he was ready to give up everything for Baelfire a few weeks ago. What changed? Hmm.
Maybe he thought the potion would let him leave SB to look for Bael, but when Belle showed, he realized (1) what Regina had done and (2) Belle couldn’t leave.
First, I believe Rumple doesn’t “love” magic, but power (of course he loves Bae and Belle, no argue on that, but, also the power, I think.). In FTL his magic was his power, but in SB his power was made of properties, money, etc, etc, etc. So, my opinion is that he was ready to leave and look for Bae, believing his power in a word without magic was enough to do so. But with the possibility of gaining his magic back, well, he went for it.
I personally believe – since the beginning of the season, actually – that Rumple is not ready for his redemption yet. He seems to have understood that he have to give up his power in order to Bae to accept him back, but I wonder if the key to find Bae would not be to give up his power first… (again, I think he still considers that he can’t find his son without his powers…)@TheOnionGirl wrote:
Hence, the purple cloud … a full-on declaration of war against Regina, in a way. (But why, then, did she look so darned pleased with it?)
Still just thinking it out. 😀
My guess is that she was happy to get her power back. At first she was devastated that the curse was broken and she would loose Henry, but when she realised magic was coming back, well… 😈
ms. pixieParticipant@hjbau wrote:
I just don’t think that Rumpel cares about Regina. I don’t think that he cares at all if Regina is the child that he lost and i am not convinced that story will play out exactly the same way anyways in the show. It seems like whatever Cora did was a deal most likely with Rumpel and that she paid a heavy price for that deal and that she gained her magic power through it. I mean we know that Cora is not a queen, so we know the story is different in that way at least. I just think with Rumpel usually his deals are trades like a direct trade one for another and it is always a bad deal, but i don’t know if the whole i am going to take your baby unless you guess my name thing is going to play out exactly the same way.
I agree with that. We always see only parts of the original stories we know, or the stories re-adapted, etc. We’ve seen relations between Rumple and names – when he summons the Dark One, when he asks for Emma’s name. And we’ve seen him making deals and weaving gold, we heard from the mills daughter, etc. So my bet is that they already deconstructed Rumple’s story, so we won’t see it as a whole, the way it’s usually told.
ms. pixieParticipant@charming wrote:
What if someone brought you a copy of the Star War Trilogy and said to you, you are Princess Leia and need to help Luke Skywalker fight the Empire for the Republic. You just have to believe and in two days a starship will come and pick you up and go to the other side of the galaxy. You are our only hope………
I would put on my white gown, fetch my blaster and sit on the porch waiting for the starship to show up. :geek:
I agree with you, charming – with the aliens example too! – what does it take to change completely your comprehension of life and the world you live in? A lot, I would say.
ms. pixieParticipant@obisgirl wrote:
We don’t know how long he and Emma had been living there though.
this is something that actually bothered be a bit – their life in the orphanage was so superficially depicted. we don’t know how they’ve been there for, or if everyone was as rude as that janitor, etc.
ms. pixieParticipantOk, so, my theory, for now is, the book was not written. Not that it would make a lot of difference, but I think it could have been made with magic and/or memories, before the curse. I’m inclined to think it was BF/MS because it seems more plausible that she would know all the stories, since fairies seem to live ‘above’ people and be aware of what’s happening everywhere. And she knew about Rumple and the real character of the curse, so she could’ve came up with this magic book, something that could “self-write”, that would contain all the stories, including those happening AS the curse strike – for me, this is something that could explain why she’s not telling everyone who could help her: she may not be aware now of FTL and the curse.
I don’t think Rumple has written it. I can’t tell you exactly why, but I feel the way things are depicted doesn’t sound like Rumple. Specially all Snow/Charming story.
ms. pixieParticipant@Arjay369 wrote:
So maybe the whole of the EF was transported to the real world and it’s all under an illusion just like peoples’ memories? That would be a possible theory. I’d hate to think nothing was transported and it’s all an illusion but still in the EF.
However, several characters have mentioned wanting to leave SB and go to Boston…but that’s the only place they want to go. SB is in Maine, so why not Augusta? Or any other New England city? Or even Nova Scotia?
Also, if the EF is just one realm of the FTL, were others affected and transported too? Are they in SB or are they in neighboring communities? In SB, we’ve mainly seen the Perrault/Grimm fairy tales (with the exception of Pinocchio). Could there be ‘sister towns’ to SB, involving Anderson tales, Agrabah, Wonderland, etc?
Also, something else to consider – with the exception of Jefferson who apparently is a resident of the EF who goes to Wonderland, one character is from elsewhere and that’s the Genie who becomes trapped in the mirror and who’s from Agrabah. Other possible non-native EF residents would be Pinocchio, Gepetto, and Jiminy as “Pinocchio” is not a classic fairy tale. The whale may have brought Pinocchio and Gepetto to EF with Jiminy following. Just a thought.
Expect the unexpected, Accepted the unaccepted.
I think the writers only use Boston as a reference because it’s easier for someone from outside the US – like myself! – to recognize it. Not that people don’t know anywhere else in the US, but it makes it simpler, you know…
Also, I believe only August, Emma and Henry have been somewhere else, the rest can’t leave SB, isn’t it?
I’m still trying to figure out SB – the people being transported is ok, but the artefacts and things, what has being transported what has not??… For know, I think it’s a town in our world “created” by the curse. Maybe just former EFpeople can see it or be there or something much like those Harry Potter places, where you can only see when someone tells you about it.
And about Jefferson, I still think he went to SB, even though he was trapped in Wonderland, because he was originally from EF. I’m starting to think that Wonderland is used as some kind of a different dimension prison, and because of it, Jefferson was trapped in his house and etc.
ms. pixieParticipantI like this theory, of SB being a different dimension from the Real World (we live in). And I like the ‘tunnels’ idea – since we’ve seen objects from FTL (or EF…) there (the glass coffin in the mines, things in Mr. Gold’s store, the hearts cabinet, etc).
I only wonder about one thing: how can Henry, Emma and August get in or out town?
Because, if it’s just the curse preventing people from the EF to leave, ok, the 3 of them are out of that, but if it’s another dimension, shouldn’t they be one of those “realm jumpers” to be able to do that???ms. pixieParticipant@Khaleesi wrote:
I don’t think Bae is dead but I am with you on other points you made. I don’t think they will rush into their happy ending in season II either. Keep in mind who is writing the stories. They are gonna torture us for sure. But I do believe Belle will play a major role in Rumple’s turn.
I also agree Mr. Gold won’t be dead or the show will be so over. But still can’t tell if he could have a happy ending at the end. So have to keep our fingers crossed.
I try to always keep in mind that what’s going to happen doesn’t really depend on logic or what I expect it to be, but on what the writers will decide! And, from what they usually do, I see a lot of “turn-arounds” and “oh-come-on-don’t-do-that-to-me” coming!
As for why he’s helping Emma to believe, I still haven’t decide if it is because of Bae or his powers. I was willing to bet on the power, but, maybe, he is really changed.
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