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Myril
ParticipantSeeing how fanatic people are about this movie (pro and contra), I wouldn’t touch it for the sake of anything. It comes with stalker guarantee, fanatic love and fanatic hate.
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October 22, 2013 at 12:30 am in reply to: ONCE UPON A TIME RATING — links and discussions related to ratings. #217925Myril
ParticipantWrote it before: It doesn’t matter if billions of people watch a show sometime. To sell it to advertising industry it only matters, how many people age between 8-49 watch it in a certain time frame. Live numbers count most, DVR+3 has still a bit of worth, everything else is cosmetics. You might find that unfair, but that is business. Again: It’s about money not about popularity, and different from what common people assume, that is by far not the same.
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October 20, 2013 at 3:57 pm in reply to: FAVORITE DIALOGUE FROM —– “3×03 “Quite a Common Fairy”” #217388Myril
ParticipantThanks, nonnie!
Had to stop myself to write down here all of the dialogue between Regina and Tinkerbell. Rewatching the episode I enjoyed them even more.
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October 20, 2013 at 2:13 pm in reply to: FAVORITE DIALOGUE FROM —– “3×03 “Quite a Common Fairy”” #217350Myril
Participanta little treat before the new episode airs …
Henry: “I don’t like apples”
Peter Pan: “Who doesn’t like apples?”
Henry: “It’s a family thing”
(actually we all should be careful about apples, you know, the thing with the knowledge of good and evil, the forbidden fruit)Robin Hood (to Neal searching the cupboard): “Uh, not sure you’re gonna find a horse in there, mate.”
Neal: “I don’t need a horse, I need a portal. A way to create a portal.”
(well, maybe a magic horse could do the trick)Nea: “Look, lots of things make portals… beans, magic mirrors, ruby slippers, some kind of ashes.”
(obviously magic travel was not your best school subject, Neal, some kind of ashes, right…)Robin: “Merry men come in all sizes.”
(or to be less ambiguous here, in all ages, even though I would very much agree, they should as well come in all sizes)David: “No, pixie dust. It’s stronger, like nuclear fairy dust”
(I don’t really want to picture nuclear fairy dust, sounds kinda martial).Rumple: “I thought you were dead.”
Regina: “Go away.”
(they are always so happy to see each other)Rumple: “Roast Swan. That’s amusing. You’ll get that later.”
(or sooner)Regina: “I don’t want to have a future that looks like…”
Rumple: Like what?”
Regina: “Like you.”
(finding the right foundation for that kind of sparkly skin would be a pain)Regina: “I’m practically a prisoner with a husband whose heart is still with his dead wife and his insipid daughter… It’s intorable. I have nothing to do and nowhere to go. I need freedom. I need options.”
(sounds like the wonderful beginning of a good desperate sub-urban housewives soap opera drama)Rumple: “You think you are the diner at the feast, tasting the offerings. A little love, a little dance. What you don’t realize is, you are the feast. And the darkness has tasted you. (…) The darkness likes how you tast, dearie. It doesn’t mind the bitter. And now that it’s started the meal, it’s gonna finish it. You can no more fly from your fate than can that swan.”
(the writers are speaking…)Rumple: “And bring that simmering rage. It’s all you have.”
(it’s something)Regina: “She’s a monster. Totally indulged and adored. She sort of ricochets through life, telling people’s secrets.”
(bit like the average teenage girl in high-school)Tinkerbell: “You need love”
(All you need is love, love, love, love… Beatles for a change, not the Stones)Tinkerbell: “I’ve never seen pixie dust fail.”
(so far)Regina: “My happy ending looks like Snow’s head on a plate.”
(not getting a dance of seven veils before, are we?)Tinkerbell: “Well, I’m a fairy. You might want to try believing in me.”
(poor Tinkerbell, just can’t make people believe in her)Emma: “Didn’t we just go through this?”
Regina: “I’m not talking about my magic. I’m talking about our magic.”
Emma: “I am not interested. One thing I learned is, it always comes with a price.”
Regina: “Well, sometimes not using it comes with a price too.”
(going to use that as beginners example for my next subtext reading 101 course. Although Emma clearly says, she is not interested)Peter Pan: “We have a story here about a man who once shot an apple off his son’s head with an arrow.”
(and that man later killed the one who forced him to do it, just saying. Target pracitce for when Neal will have joined them again?)Henry: “If you’re shooting at the apple, what’s the poison for?”
Peter Pan: “Motivation not to miss.”
(kids, this is really nothing you should ever try, poison or not, Although might try that with my next apprentice)Tinkerbell: “Hey, Blue. You look amazing. Did you do something to…”
Blue: “You’re late.”
(lesson: not the way to impress your teacher)Tinkerbell: “Sounds to me like she’s exactly someone who could use help.”
(being in need of help and being ready for help are not the same)Blue: “I will be the judge of what is fairylike.”
(claiming the prerogative of the teacher)Robin: “Oh, so at best, my toddler is bait. At worst something goes wrong, and a demonic shadow carries him through a portal to the nastiest person you ever met.”
Neal: Look, Robin, I have to get there.”
(by all means. Your homework: Name who is the better father and why.)Robin: “So because I know what it is to value family, I should risk mine?”
(of course, some are just more important than others)Regina: “Okay. We have a complicated history.”
Emma: “I knew it.”
Regina: “You don’t need to know the details.”
(next good example for excellent material for subtext reading 101. Besides that: indeed we know, dearie, everyone has a complicated history with Regina)Regina: “My staying out of her sight is probably best for operation Henry.”
(don’t know any invisibility spell?)Emma: “What the hell did you do to her?”
Regina: “What I always do.”
(wait, what, you did the same to more people? nasty Regina)Tinkerbell: “Helping you find your happiness, saving you, that’s what’s gonna save me.”
(failing first fairy tale rule: never do anything for yourself)Tinkerbell: “Well, when you think about it, does anyone really own pixie dust.”
(does anyone own anything considering our lives are vain?)Regina: “You look terrible”
(guess we all would like to look just as terrible as Tinkerbell)Emma: “It’s pretty bare. Reminds me of some place.”
(and what place would that be, her own maybe?)
Snow: “You’d think a tree house would be more cheery.”
(you think?)
Emma: “Where I used to live, that’s it.”
(never would have guessed)
Snow: “Because it’s just a place to sleep.”
Emma: “What would you know about that?”
(like mother, like daughter – the two make an incredible team)Snow: “The real question is, why does she have a ladder? Fairies have wings.”
(to quote the show’s creators: good question, keep watching)Regina: “I take it by the restraints, you’re not helping.”
(oh, some people like bonds to show love. but guess not Tinkerbell)Regina: “You’re the one who interfered in my life.”
Tinkerbell: “And threw away my own in the process.”
(they love each other, so much love)Regina: “How the hell did you get like this?”
Tinkerbell: “I met you.”
(dear Regina, you’re a gift.)Tinkerbell: “You should be glowing.”
(what is to be expected if coming into touch with nuclear material like pixie dust)Regina: “You’re a terrible fairy.”
(good fairies stay out of Regina’s life).Regina: “Fly away, moth.”
(Wrong. Moths normally are attracted to light, not to darkness, so Tinkerbell can’t be a moth.)
Tinkerbell: “Everyone deserves a second chance, we always tell people that.”
(you should have said, deserves another chance. How to negotiate 101)Blue: “I no longer believe in you.”
(period)Tinkerbell: “Why couldn’t you just go through that door and meet your soul mate?!”
(a good question. we would have no show otherwise)Tinkerbell: “Was being happy such a terrible fate.”
Regina: “Yes. Yes it was.”
(happiness is so overrated)Regina: “That anger was all I had. What would I be without it?”
Tinkerbell: “Happy.”
Regina:”Weak.”
(as simple as that)Regina: “I picked revenge over hope, and you’re holding the result… a small, hard, dark heart.”
(listen up!)Regina: “Kill me or act like the fairy you are.”
(sneaky)Peter Pan:”This place runs on imagination, on belief. But your world stopped believing. Magic is dying, and you, Henry, need to save it.”
(kinda the quintessence of the show)Peter Pan: “You’re descended from the greatest of light and of dark. What, you think it’s a coincidence that the spawn of The Dark One met your mother? You were created for a reason, and I can help you find it.”
(words of a common enticer, otherwise called brainwashing. The only reason we are created for is to be.)Neal: “When you love someone, you don’t keep it in. You say it.”
(wise words from an unwise guy)Roland: “I believe”
(it is so simple at times)Robin: “If you cared to put your considerable skills to use, there’s a place for you among my merry men. You’d be the first woman. I hope that is no deterrent.”
(Sir, if you cared to lessen the amplitude of your courtly spiel you’d get to the point faster.)Mulan: “That’s excellent news.”
(in other words: crushing news)Tinkerbell: “Who the hell are you?”
Emma: “A pissed of mother.”
(don’t ever get between a mother and her love, a fairy should know that)Tinkerbell (noticing Hook): “Well, look who the Queen dragged in.”
(in short: ROFLSTCIIHO)Tinkerbell: “Why should I help you.”
Snow: “Because I believe in you.”
(finally someone does)Felix (to Neal) “Welcome home… Baelfire. Pan will be so happy to see you.”
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Myril
ParticipantChernabog, Shan-Yu, Jaffar, Cruella, Gov. Ratcliff maybe and missing Judge Claude Frollo on the list. They have the traits of psychopaths. The Evil Queen, Maleficent or Ursula or Hook are pretty low on my list, their motives are not excusable but somewhat understandable. And Shere Kahn I don’t even see as villain, tragic antagonist but not villain (that are humans threatening the balance and ecology of the jungle, and saw it that way as child already)
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Myril
ParticipantLike angiebelle said. Regina ruin Robin’s life is how Tinkerbell is seeing it, doesn’t mean it’s true. At best it his her honest opinion. There is a slight possibility, she said that to make Regina feel more miserable, thinking, Regina is more vulnerable at the moment (something Tinkerbell would be wrong about, but that is a different discussion), but my guess is, Tinkerbell does think Regina ruined Robin’s life.
It says a lot about Tinkerbell and little about Robin or Regina.
Tinkerbell’s view on the world in the past was a mix of (sometimes misplaced) idealism, naivety, parochialism and impulsiveness. She lacked to see the bigger picture. In that she was like an opposite of Blue. Blue is sometimes a tad too focused on the big picture, making her rigid, rule-bound, conservative, ready to sacrifice the happiness of the one for the greater good, overly pragmatic – opposite not in a sense of directly opposed to each other though, they’re a closer than they might like, which, funny enough, is true for the colors blue and green on the color wheel.
We don’t know (yet) when Tinkerbell came to Neverland, but my guess is she got stuck there a while ago. And very much stuck. Neverland is a place of stagnancy, idleness, and idleness not in a good sense of letting go of anything for a while to sit back and relax, but in the sense of inactivity to avoid any kind of (positive) development and movement, because moving would mean facing something unpleasing, painful. As child already wondered why people wanted to stay in Neverland forever, at best it was a place to come back to once in a while, but not a place to stay – as Kitsis or Horowitz said it so nicely, who wants to stay 15 and in high-school forever. Interestingly Pan seems to like to force people to face their innermost pain of the soul, I am not sure if he knows that that way he might cause pain for a moment but actually is helping them to move on. But that is something to discuss somewhere else, back to Tinkerbell. Tinkerbell stuck in Neverland, unable to move on, her idealism gone stale, she’s angry, disappointed, narrow-minded, unimaginative, simplistic, and still fails to see the bigger picture.
It’s not just a lack of information on Tinkerbell’s side in my opinion, she sees it that way. Robin was meant to be Regina’s next soul mate (or true love, don’t see a difference), and by not going into the tavern and meeting Robin, Regina not only took her own chance away for happiness but also Robin’s chance. Whatever he had afterwards, since, has only been a poor substitute for what he could have had with Regina (regardless how happy he maybe was with Marian and is about his son). As Tinkerbell sees it, Regina ruined her own life, that of Robin and Tinkerbell’s life. In that Tinkerbell is a lot like Regina, blaming others for things she might at least be as responsible for. It’s the world, it’s fate, it’s the others, the cirumstances… It’s a trait of the good guys not to ask around who might be responsible, not to look everywhere else but take responsibility themselves, no matter if or how much they are responsible. Regina doesn’t do that, Rumple doesn’t, and Tinkerbell as well seems to have a bit of problem to do it. So she blames Regina, it’s simpler than to admit that she might have been even big time wrong. Could be called projection, a defense mechanism or strategy known in psychology.
Besides what Tinker is believing in, did Regina ruin Robin’s life? Well Regina might not have ultimately ruined everyone’s lives, but with the curse she ruined the lives of pretty much everybody in the Enchanted Forest (and beyond) for at least a while. So funny thing is, although Tinkerbell is meaning it a different way, she is not far from the truth. Of course now you can argue, that Regina was driven by forces she had no control of, manipulated by her mother, by Rumple, and if believing in the big bad Blue theory the Blue Fairy. But, remember, being the good folks is not about figuring out, who might be responsible, it is about taking responsibility.
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Myril
ParticipantI was surprised when there were people who had been under the impression that that scene had anything to do with Mulan loving Philip, as opposed to Aurora. To me, it was pretty clear, they even gave Mulan an exact line of Aurora’s, “We shall see,” when she was discussing with Robin about going to see a loved one. And there’s no logical reason that Mulan would have wanted to tell Aurora, “So, I’m in love with your husband.”
Didn’t see or hear any ambiguity in the scene at all, even though Mulan didn’t get around to confess her feelings to Aurora. There were signs before. Doubt that so many people would talk about ambiguity if Mulan were a man. Well, if people want to read it that way, that Mulan wanted to confess to her best friend Aurora being in love with her love, so be it. It is one of the things I do criticize about how the writers handled this story now, it is the too well known “The love that dare not speak it’s name” trope (well known in the community that is). The writers don’t make it all clear, don’t name it, so it unfortunately is indeed still open for discussion, and it is the kind of discussion I gladly would have left behind long ago. Is Mulan or isn’t she in love with a woman… She is, so let’s move on and maybe discuss how she can find happiness, who her princess could be and how they will find each other. But…
It shouldn’t be a contentious issue, it should just be a case of, “Good stuff, another new love story to watch,” but unfortunately the reality is that there’s a social stigma to same sex relationships, so maybe they’re treading carefully at first?
How long are we already doing this dance on hot coals? More than a hundred years, when talking just about moving pictures, or maybe take the first same-gender kiss on (US TV) screen, which happened some say in 1991, so doing this dance at least for the past 20 years. And we’re talking here about a show by ABC, a network running shows like Grey’s Anatomy, Modern Family, Scandal, Revenge, and if you include their cable channel ABC family Pretty Little Liars and The Fosters – all shows with LGBTQ characters, even some prominent character and not shying away from speaking out the love’s name. Okay, all these are modern time shows, OUaT is a show about old fashioned fairy tales, trying to give those though a modern twist. Frankly getting a bit tired with being careful and taking little cautious very small steps to not offened anyone with what they will find offending no matter how it is presented to them.
Admittedly, they didn’t do it with some new, or lesser known fairy tale or storybook character, they did it with a well known and liked Disney movie main protagonist. That is something, and not really something to suggest they want to be careful at first because of social stigma. Can argue though as well, that Mulan has never been the typical (white) average Disney princess, that her story already in the movie plays with gender expectations and images, so if there had been any main Disney protagonist to take that road she always was a good choice. And at the same time it makes Mulan the bad choice, she is the obvious choice, already somewhat “butch”, masculine, so “naturally” she might be interested in women (as well). Warrior butch lesbian/bisexual trope.
Not to mention we have the Unhappy lesbian/bisexual falling for a straight woman trope here now as well, plenty of cliches. too many for my taste, too many to call this move progress.
Mulan has feelings for Aurora going beyond just a close friendship, that much in my opinion is obvious. And one can say, because Aurora is in love with Phillip, he in love with her, and they undoubtly have what is defined as true love (the kiss broke the curse, no way around that), Mulan’s feelings are meant to be unanswered. Not much of a choice there, unless, Adam knew what he was talking about when saying on the NY Comic Con they want to “represent love in every form” – I somewhat doubt though, that that includes polyamory. So I doubt, that the story goes into a direction of a happy three parents family, and as much doubt that they would break up Aurora’s and Phillip’s relation, or kill Phillip (been kinda there, done that with the wraith, but now Phillip is back). Leaves Mulan with a broken heart and maybe the chance for a new (real?) true love, be it man or woman.
Was Mulan in love before with Phillip? Maybe, and possible. While with non-fictional people I am far more careful to lable them I am less shy with fictional characters. I think it would be okay to lable Mulan bi- or pansexual (just in short: some define bisexual as being attracted to more than one gender, other criticize that the term still could be and is misunderstood by many as being attracted to the two most talked about genders, thus neclegting that there are more possibilities and more genders, so some prefer to use the term pansexual instead). It was never stated when we first met Mulan, what she is, but thanks to our socialisation most of us quite sure automatically at first assumed, she was straight, because that how things normally are. Unless clearly stated or shown otherwise we assume someone to be straight, because that is what is “normal” (or mostly the case, the majority). A reason why it is so important to make diversity very and clearly visible on screen, so that we maybe one day assume less automatically who people might be attracted to and be more open for other possibilities.
I do think Mulan is perhaps best classified as “bi” but I also think she tends to fall in love with personalities rather than any specific gender.
One can say so. Maybe it is true for Mulan. But in general would be careful with putting it that way. We’re talking about true love here on this show, and think it is safe to say that means a love which is about more than physical attraction anyway, where physics even play if any only a part among others. Right? So this statement should pretty much be true for any kind of (true) love (between two not blood related people) on the show. To say it simple: For example for Snow Charming’s personality matters more than his specific gender (or should). So there is no difference between Mulan and Snow in this.
Furthermore: For some people their gender identity is an important part of (their) personality. It is convenient to particular say in cases of people who have felt or feel attraction to more than one gender, that personality is more important than gender, and for some that is true, but for others not. Some are very aware of the different genders they feel attracted to, they just do feel attracted to more than one gender. And for some transexual and transgender people it is very important to notice their gender identity as part of their personality and not ignore it. Just saying.
One can only hope at this point, that the showmakers develop Mulan’s story further. From what I gather from interviews and con panels though guess we’re not going to see much more before winter break. As I wrote above, I very much doubt though SleepingWarrior will happen, it has no future. Even if Aurora might have feelings as well (which seeing how she reacted I wouldn’t rule out, but that is interpretation), she is not going to leave Phillip, not on this fairy tale show, and they won’t kill Phillip, because why did they bring him back in the first place. So leaves to find another true love for Mulan for her happy ending in some future of the show. Just hope that for a change it’s not ending with being just a phase trope and Mulan falling in love with some man (whoever), but that they go for letting her find her “princess”.
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October 14, 2013 at 4:57 pm in reply to: 3×03 “Quite a Common Fairy” FAVORITE AND LEAST FAVORITE MOMENTS #215859Myril
ParticipantLeast fave (and not just of this episode): Mulan just nearly confessing her love to Aurora, Aurora being pregnant
No, no and no. You want to be friends to the LGBTQ community then be serious about it and not this. Oh, nice dear writers, producers that you noticed that fans, and not just gay ones saw, that there was a moment in season 2 between these two kinda yelling true love (it was so not subtle, not that scene, but there had been moments before one could have read subtle hints of something beginning between them). For a second I was actually thinking, yeah, this show can still surprise me in a positive way, they went there… for a very brief second and that was only due to the great acting of Jamie Chung and Sarah Bolger. I am not just heartbroken for Mulan now, I am annoyed about the writing here. Sorry, Jane Espenson is a brilliant writer, but think she should know better than that. Only hope that she just tried to make the best out of something stupid, out of someone else’s boyish imagination. No, this is not about doing it right for everybody, something no one can do, this is about doing it right at all. And they did it all wrong.
SleepingWarrior was a vague possibility to actually ever happen on screen as long as Phillip was out of the picture, the moment they brought him back that ship was sailed and turned just fan fiction ship, nothing more (nothing less, love a good fan fic). In the logic of the show it must have been a true love’s kiss between Phillip and Aurora to break the curse. Possible that relationships change, but wouldn’t sit right with the logic of the OUaT universe in this case. I can think of scenarios where things still could work out, but at least one wouldn’t be true to the love logic of OUaT set up so far, the other option is one even somewhat progressive ABC very sure would not do, which leaves a third option only to make this somewhat right for OUaT and for LGBTQ fans of the show. It does look like there is the possibility of more than one true love in a life time, so far though maybe only when a the other died, but that can be still adapted here, and Mulan’s feeling for Aurora become sisterly love and Mulan meets someone else, maybe a certain wolf lady in Storybrooke… For many it might be enough to pair Mulan up with Robin Hood (not convinced he is Regina’s 2nd true love) or some other guy, but that wouldn’t change the mess they just created. Trust me, I would be all for a bi character, but in this case it would be wrong.
Sorry for the lengthy rant, but I am very, very disappointed in the show and the showrunners at the moment. This very much killed the whole episode for me, despite that there was some good in the episode.
But one more least fave moment: Neal using a kid to get to Neverland. Yes, he is desperate, okay, and I had all trust that Mulan would keep the boy safe, but still. Unless this was to show that Neal is getting more and more reckless like his father for the family. On the path to his dark side?
But there was good in the episode, and let’s end with the good:
The acting of Jamie Chung and Sarah Bolger. You broke my heart, and that is not an easy thing to do for any kind of fiction, book, TV show, whatever.
Rose McIver’s acting. Remember an 11-year old girl impressing with some good acting in an episode of Xena. Rose McIver played Xena (well Xena being in her body). Impressed again here as Tinker Bell.
Regina – Tinker Bell scene. Great acting. And some insightful Regina, a moment of clarity. Not so sure though if that fits to Regina’s story arc. Or let’s say, it would have been close to perfect, just that they did some wonky stuff with her in the past season. Well, maybe simply forget about some of the wonky Storybrooke stuff. This was better.
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Myril
ParticipantBlue Fairy sneaky, and particular in the case of Tinker Bell? Seriously?
Okay, I ignore for a moment the sad and pained look on Blue’s face when she said, she no longer believes in Tinker Bell, and when she left. Could have been just acting, or perhaps the pain to have to sacrifice Tink for the greater good, or Blue’s big scheme.
But let me ask a couple of questions:
It was convenient that the screw got loose when Regina angrily pounded the balustrade, and even more convenient that Tinker Bell was right around to stop Regina from hitting ground. Do you think that was
a) random
b) fate
c) the doing of Blue
d) Rumple’s work
e) Tinker doing a tiny bit of tinkering?
If you answer with c), then why should Blue have done that? To set up Tinker, to set up Regina, or maybe both? For what purpose, to frustrate both because Tinker failed and Regina couldn’t overcome her fear to let go? Because of some meticulous plan to reboost magic, or/and the believe in magic? Because she needed Tinker to go to Neverland and Regina to become all dark? Why not let Rumple do the dirty work (he was quite sure already very keen on turning Regina dark for his needs and on a good way to succeed, despite Regina being a tad hesitant that day)?
The road to hell is paved with good intentions… What were Tinkers intentions to help Regina? Pure selfless goodness? Was she just interested in Regina’s happiness, or as much in her very own happiness to be called a good fairy if successful? Was she acting out of truly felt hope and empathy for Regina or more based on hope for herself or both? Did she ask herself, if Regina was ready to meet her possible true new love, did she stay around to help if need be, or did she assume, some pixie dust and fate and love does the rest? Regina didn’t call for help when she was falling, not out loud at least, what gave Tinker Bell the right to interfere at all? Can one actually kinda push happiness onto someone?
I had the impression it was not the first time Tinker Bell seriously messed up (and not meaning being late home after curfew with that). It was her second chance already. Right, Blue could have given her another chance, and another one, and another one, but sometimes as a teacher you have to let your pupil hit ground (literally in this case). And when you lose trust and believe in someone, that is hard to overcome, even if it pains yourself.
“With great powers comes… a ton of weird crap that you are not prepared to deal with.” To quote here from another ABC show (Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D). Instincts aren’t all bad and sometimes one has to take risk, but you have to be ready to take responsibility as well. Pixie and fairy dust are powerful tools. Blue might be at times overly rigid, but think she has good reason for it. Do you think Tinker Bell acted responsible here and just to get Regina away from darkness?
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October 8, 2013 at 2:55 pm in reply to: ONCE UPON A TIME RATING — links and discussions related to ratings. #214771Myril
ParticipantSome more info in short about the Twitter TV ratings. They measure things like
– unique authors = users who tweeted at least once about a show
– total tweets = total number of tweets about a show, social media abbreviations (guess hashtags), @ replies to official show or cast member accounts, other show specific keywords
(still not all clear about automated, new style, and manual, old-style, re-tweets, the moment you comment, aka like “Like RT@…” it counts as a unique tweet, at least in most Twitter metrics I know of, so guess here the same; the number of re-tweets you can see for every tweet on Twitter is the number of automated re-tweets, so some people are by now angry if anyone dares to use old-style RT, but it might be better for other metrics)Tweets don’t equal person
– average number of tweets per unique author
– average number of followers per unique author
– unique audience = number of distinct Twitter users reading at least one tweet related to the program (yes, they actually have a way to measure reads, it’s called impressions, by users logged in on a Twitter supported platform, like the Twitter website or something like Tweetdeck, not saying that the people actually read it – considering how fast I sometimes scroll through my timeline…)
– impressions (read tweets, see above)
– activity (unique authors + tweets) is measured 3 hour before, during and 3 hours after original broadcast (local time)
– reach (unique audience, impressions) measured from when the tweets are sent until end of broadcast day at 5am.Quite sure they measure only tweets originating from the US, after all it’s about US ratings (limiting it to US as good as they can). So yes, it does make sense to manually RT tweets from non US folks. If you like add a little comment to it, like “like”. Many people by now seem to have forgotten, or never have been told, that that was the way Twitter thrived in the first place, by sharing actively, making the origin and the sharer(s) visible in the timeline (a tweet retweeted automatically many times for example appears still only once in your timeline, makes it easy to miss)
And a word about how important the viewer numbers/ratings are: They are not unimportant, but for a single show not so much compared to numbers of other networks. More important is a) what numbers does the network expect for the show, b) how does a show do compared to average of the network and other shows of the network. So it is a lot more interesting to see how Grey’s Anatomy or Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D are doing (Scandal is at the moment ABC’s top show, ignore it) than for example SVU, Glee or The Voice.
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