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They waited till May to announce season 2, shortly before upfront meeting, so don’t expect to be sure any time soon. Upfronts are meetings where the networks present their new program for upcoming season to start selling commercial airtime. For fall season the upfronts happen usually in the third week of May.

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Emma: U.P.S. package for 407
Henry: Maybe you should’ve said FedEx.
(No product placement here, no)

Emma: Hey! I’m the only one allowed to be angry here
(wouldn’t argue with you)

Neal: No, bar’s better. Don’t worry, you can keep yelling at me when we get there.
(who is YELLING?)

Henry: Don’t worry. Emma’s really good at catching people
Mr Gold: Well, my son’s been running for a very long time now. Now I have a feeling he’s equally adept at it.
(not as good as you think)

Emma: You left me and let me go to prison because Pinocchio told you to?
(yeah, who would believe a notorious liar. And hopefully no one else in the bar heard this)

Neal: Everything that happens happens by design, and there is nothing we can do about it. Forces greater than us conspire to make it happen. Fate, destiny, whatever you wanna call it.
(Yup, there are the forces called writers …)
Thought immediately, Charmed! But he said not, everything happens for a reason, he said by design. Interesting phrasing.

Seer: Your wife will bear a son, but your actions on the battlefield tomorrow will leave him fatherless.

Seer: When you see the army ride cows into battle, you will know I speak the truth.
(seers are always that cryptic)

Rumple: Cows? And who is gonna man the catapults? Milk maids?
(snarky Rumple)

Gold: The future is like a puzzle. With missing pieces. Difficult to read. And never,never what you think.
(hear, hear)

Hook: To the untrained eye a child’s scribbles but to a pirate it’s a map.
(or maybe pirates are childish)

Hook: Well, lucky for you ladies, I’m quite adapt at finding buried treasure.
(well, he is a pirate)

David: It’s a good thing we don’t have Thanksgiving in our land, ’cause that dinner would suck.
Snow: Or maybe this will mellow everyone out.
(These two are incredible. And Snow nails it again, I mean, now we know what Thanksgiving dinners really are meant for)

Emma: Stop. You can’t just break in.
Gold: Yeah, well, actually that’s something I’m quite adept at.
(now we know who Neal got it from)

Seargant: We call ’em “cows”. Grab yours, so at least the ride into doom will be a soft one on your backside.
(practical thinking)

Henry (yelling): Now why is everyone yelling?
(no one is YELLING!)

Neal: 14? I don’t wanna be 14… again. Are you… are you insane?
(yeah, who wants to be teenager again, with all that angst and confusion and things you’re not allowed to do)

Rumple: It would have been nice to know about all that pesky detail.
(sometimes, but only sometimes)

Seer: The future is a puzzle. With many pieces to be sorted. In time you will learn to separate what can be from what will be.
(can’t be said often enough)

And the last prophecy of the seer:
Seer: You will be reunited with your son. And it will come in the most unexpected way. A boy, a young boy will lead you to him. But beware, Rumplestiltskin, for that boy is more than he appears. He will lead you to what you seek. But there will be a price. The boy will be your undoing
Rumple: Then I just will have to kill him.

So, Bae is adapt at running away, Gold at breaking in and Hook at finding buried treasure. Would make a good team. 😉

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[Myril]

Favorite scenes? In short: Every scene in present Manhatten.
Jennifer Morrison rocked. Of course Robert Carlyle did a great job as well (he always does) as did Michael Raymond-James. Strong emotional moments.

The longer version:

Some nice tackle by Emma. But ouch. And time to appreciate the work of the stunt people on the show.

Loved Emma’s reaction at the end of that scene, catching Neal, expressing her frustration but for the audience a funny release at the end of an intense moment. Well, all of the scene was great.

Emma getting hysterical (well as hysterical as she can get) and calling her mother, Snow, for advice. Did I mention that Jennifer Morrison rocked?

Cora and Regina at the library. Yes, I know, Hook was there too, but sorry, I liked that scene for this little moment between Cora and Regina, another mother – daughter moment. Cora’s proud smile while her daughter was explaining why they were looking for the dagger or information about it at the library. Just this smile and Regina’s thank you revealed so much about their relationship.

David isn’t great with words – and seems not with logic either. Yes, one can have more than one granddad, surprise. And Snow is as always good in stating the obvious in a very dry matter of fact way (How many takes does it take to deliver such line in such context without any laughter?) 😆 A much needed comical relieve in this episode high on emotions. And a huge tip-off for all fan-fiction writers. And good for other fan-art as well. Maybe should turn it into a fun competition over summer break, well in time for next thanksgiving.

Rumple all upset about everything the seer told coming true so far. His frustration to find the cage empty, the seer gone, so no way to get more (cryptic) answers. And then deciding to break his own leg and doing it. Robert Carlyle is brilliant. And though I guessed, that Rumple injured himself to avoid fighting, didn’t guess it happening this way, that he first was eager to go to war. But it made total sense, and added another intriguing layer to Rumple’s story and personality.

Ah, the dreamcatcher again. The love for details. And continuity.

Gold’s and Emma’s confrontation and Neal storming in to the rescue. For a second I hold my breath (and that doesn’t happen often watching movie or TV).

Neal, Gold, Emma, Henry – what a drama. And foundation for more drama. Have to admit, I was a little worried, what the writers are going to make of this story line, but maybe shouldn’t have been. Such a story line can easily turn into soap opera twaddle, but here we got terrific drama. Thanks to good writing and brilliant acting.

Regina is as obsessed with Henry as Cora is obsessed with her. There was a moment of doubt for Regina when she wondered if it was all about taking the powers of the Dark One for her mother. But whenever Cora pushes the button labeled Henry, Regina seems to throw any doubts over board. Beware, Cora, this might be your undoing one day. Lana Parilla and Barbara Hershley had not many scenes in this episode, but they made them worth it.

Emma and Henry. At least she was honest now. And her regrets were honest and felt deeply. Henry’s reaction, his disappointment was very true to the reaction of an 11 year old boy. Nicely done scene by Jennifer Morrison and Jared Gilmore.

Rumple as learned nothing, has he, 300 years older and learned nothing. Offering his son to make up by turning him back into a 14 year old boy and take away the memories? Bad idea. It’s always the easy way out Rumple thinks of first. Compared to Rumple Neal was already as wise man at the age of 14. And some great dialogue here.

Have to mention it again: I love the score Isham is writing for the show. It added so much to the atmosphere of scenes in this episode again. That piece when Emma is chasing Neal – wish for that piece on hopefully another soundtrack CD. And for the piece when Rumple seeks out the seer, takes away her powers and she gives him her last prophecy.

And the seer, makeup and the little CGI they did was fantastic. Creepy. 😯

least favorite moments:

Wouldn’t have missed the scene of Greg. I know, they’re building the story line up slowly, but this episode would have done fine without it.

The change of Milah. Sorry, that was a bit too much of a change even for my taste. She sounded like she opposed the idea of Rumple going to war at first even – and I think that part was unnecessary. Didn’t had to make her all enthusiastic about it, but neither as opposed to it as it sounded in the scene. Okay, point was to show, she supported Rumple going to war out of love to him not because she herself was any crazy about war (never thought she was), but doubt they really got that across. From what I read so far most only perceived it as something being out of character and making no sense. It did make though sense to me, how she reacted to Rumple when he returned, that was very much in character.

Couldn’t help but notice, unimportant as it was though: How well equipped even infantry, foot soldiers, were, despite quite sure being recruited from peasants, who hardly were able to provide themselves that much – and in medieval armies soldiers wore what they could afford. Not to mention to turn simple foot soldiers all of a sudden into horsemen, uhm, well, guess magically everybody in Fairy Tale Lands knows how to ride a horse. But it’s fairy tale after all, right. :ugeek:

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[Myril]

Not the same scars, far from, she had just her eyelids stitched. And the character was named as Ms. Ginger / Blind Witch (she was in Storybrooke too)
Besides think the seer died at the end of the episode, after Rumple had taken her powers.

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[Myril]

Maybe no reason to celebrate, but not a reason for much worry either.

Ratings for this Sunday, Feb. 17th 2013, 8pm
Once Upon a Time 7.50 viewers (all, in Mill.) – 18-49 rating/share 2.3/6

Slightly better than episode before but not quite what some expected.

To compare: Amazing Race season premiere on CBS had 9.54 viewers (all, in Mill.) – 18-49 rating/share 2.4/6. So Amazing Race had more viewers but not that much better ratings/share in the for commercials interesting group of age 18-49.

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Wonder what would happen if someone finds a way to destroy the dagger.

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It’s a start. Some day you will have your very own version of a TARDIS. 😉 And I like the poster.

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Ah, the New Year’s eve marathon. So will be a family affair here. 😎
Welcome to the forums!

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So, Doctor Who obsessed. Already have a TARDIS fridge, wardrobe, bookshelf or so? I would love to build a TARDIS shower into my apartment. 😆
Good to have some around interested in the history and meaning of names. More food for speculations, 😉
Welcome to the forums!

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[Myril]

It sounds somewhat like the Blue Fairy, but think that is because of the sound effect they added to the voice, a kind of muted echo. It is not the Blue Fairy’s voice, the young seers voice has a higher pitch. They added the sound effect to the voice of the older seer too, but her voice has a lower pitch (women have voice mutation as well).

And the seer is not blind, I would say, just having her eyes in a different place. Out of whatever reason. But even if she is blind in the physical sense she might be good in finding her ways with the senses left to her, it can be quite impressive how one can do that just using hearing and tactile sense (I’ve worked with blind kids). Might seem magical, but as a seer, and one knowing how to sort out the puzzle already well it seems, she might have known when she could escape.

And you know I’m bound to charm away what ever you find to nourish doubts about the Blue Fairy’s honesty 😉

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