[Myril]

Myril wrote:

Which medieval setting are we talking about?

A highly fictionalized one, clearly, that isn’t picking one specific medieval sen fortting over the other but rather setting up one that the audience recognizes as medieval without fleshing out the nuances of what was really going on. I’m not saying they are playing by all the historical rules. But they made Rumple a spinner (cause of the story of Rumplestiltskin) and they aren’t necessarily going to have the town spinner pack up and leave and try to hock his wares elsewhere when other spinners have set up shop in a similar manner because it is a gigantic financial risk when they are clearly quite poor as it is.

Myril wrote:

One spinner per village? Good luck with ever getting enough yarn for the village.

I did say PROBABLY no more. It’s an incredibly small village by the looks of it. Like I just said, obviously a highly fictional one that is incorporating Rumple’s traditional tale as part of it. The fictionalized fantasy world where there is one spinner, the town blacksmith, one ale house, ect.

Such fictional images of medieval times have very little to naught to do with history.
Early Middel Ages might be what comes closes to the fictionalized common picture of the “Dark Ages”, decline of population, decay of infrastructure like roads, sewer system, water supply, some migration waves, isolated villages, robber baron, a kind of anarchy all over Europe, but knowledge about that period is scarce because of lack of sources. But with 10th century, begin of High Middle Ages, things began to lighten up.

Spinning was quite a normal work peasant women did beside all their housework duties, it was no special skill. It took more than one spinner though to supply a weaver. With increasing population in Europe and demand for more and better cloth, textile manufacture became increasingly specialized and experienced a first form of industrialization in the High Middles Ages already. Flanders became a center of broadcloth production and trade of cloth in 13th century, Bruges had a population of about 40.000 at that time (London 35.000, Paris 150.000) . England was an important trade partner for quality wool for the flemish textile production, a trade severly harmed by the Hundred Years’ War (1337-1453). Hand spinning provided for the yarn until the spinning jenny was invented in 18th century – the hand spinners couldn’t keep up anymore providing enough yarn. To give a sense of literature timeline: Wolfram Eschenbach’s romance Parzival is dated likely in the first quarter of 13th century, Nibelungenlied is thought to have been written about the same time, Le Morte d’Arthur, a compilation of Sir Thomas Malory with tales about King Arther was published first in 1485.

Agree though if taking historical knowledge into account, in medieval like setting it should not be easy to move somewhere else just because people called you a coward in your place, but I agree because out of different reasons. Rural peasants were not all free to leave, they were often dependent (serf or villein, nope no wrong spelling) of the their land lord. Manorialism was wide spread in medieval Europe, part of the feudal system. Even for a free peasant it was not that easy to move and find a new place, land lord or town accepting them to stay (you think immigration is now a problem with nations and their administrations? you have no idea about medieval towns, their administration and the power of guilds if the town was not ruled by some lord).

I am getting into this, because I find it constantly frustrating that common fictionalized pictures of so called medieval times are way too often mistaken as anywhere close to be historical accurate, which they are not. Not to mention Middle ages, medieval cultures span a time period of nearly a thousand years. Being a nag here, and though I love playing with historical cultures and events in fiction, I like to make clear, that it is nothing but fiction any time.

It’s a very romantic and fictional idea though to think, that one spinner could make an important enough production even for a small village.

I don’t know if the writers were aware of it, but while Rumple’s father was sold to a blacksmith as kid, he sold Rumple as kid to some spinsters, which was further degression in social status, blacksmithing being a craft while spinning was simple housework, women’s work. Not just a son of a trickster and coward but sold to some old spinsters teaching him a woman’s skill. What a humilation and demasculisation of his own son by Malcom.

Milah and Rumple were both victims in their marriage. So their marriage broke apart, Milah left finally to end their shared misery and did so in cowardly, crappy way, but it could have ended there. But nope, Dark Rumple has some feelings of hurt pride, months, years later when crossing ways accidentally again with Hooks, he provokes Hook, duels with him (to revenge Milah’s death maybe, as he was told by Hook she was dead), only stopped by Milah intervening and thus revealing she wasn’t dead. And the next day Rumple murders his (ex-) wife for telling him, she never loved him (yes, he got increasingly angry when they talked about Bae, but he lost his temper the moment Milah told Rumple, she’d never loved him) That is when Rumple turns to be the evil, bad guy in the story, and there is no excuse for the murder. I am not damning Rumple for being hurt and angry but for murdering a person for not being what he expected and wanted her to be, a good mother to his son, a loving wife to him.

One can debate if Rumple was an abuser, I would say, Milah and Rumple were abusing each other shortly before she left him. Yes, that is possible, and not even that seldom, that both show abusive behavior at some point. But the women are the ones getting more often killed by their ex-partner, and not out of self-defense but mere revenge, punishment. Sometimes cold blooded planned even, sometimes happening in the moment. Exactly what Rumple did. Milah might have done morally questionable things, but Rumple committed the crime. That is the problem I have with all the Milah was no understanding, loving wife to Rumple but treating him terrible talk and damnation based on it, while being all understanding of Rumple. It can come across like looking away, while Rumple no doubt committed a crime.

Milah was a bit of a dreamer, Rumple was a realist.

Rumple maimed himself trusting the vague telling of a fishy seer. Don’t see that much of a realist in Rumple, he is more of a fatalist.

[Myril]

I’m using my historical understanding of a medieval setting. You rarely pick up and leave home. He was the village spinner. Every village has one and probably no more. You cannot come in and infringe on another person’s trade because people aren’t going to flock to you when they’ve got Jon Doe who has been spinning for the village for years as did his father before. But “starting over” isn’t actually that easy. You can go to a town and set up shop but that’s incredibly expensive.

Which medieval setting are we talking about? Early middle ages, high, late? Central Europe, south, east, north? A village in the Alps, at the coast of Norway, somewhere in the English Lowlands or German Lüneburg Heath? Village, small town, or a haven setting? Most of the costumes, tech, architecture and even hints of society we get to see on the show are less medieval by the way, but more 16-18th century, and that is early modern period. We’re working here with a highly romanticized and fictionalized picture of alleged medieval times (as courtly love and chivalric romance literature, which had some influence on our fairy tale perception, peaked in the high and late middle ages, and in the Renaissance, later picked up by romantics like the Grimm Brothers as fairy tales and sagas).

Ever wondered why mostly women are shown spinning? Why in mythology spinning is mostly brought in connection with women and goddesses? Why spinster as become at some point in English a synonym for unmarried woman (though it was not an occupation only for unmarried women). Because spinning was mostly women’s work until machines took over. One spinner per village? Good luck with ever getting enough yarn for the village.

But we’re talking fictional setting here, fairy tales and even less our modern versions of it reflect little of the actual situation of peasants in medieval or early modern times. Maybe a fairy village could do with one spinner.

We got to see Milah from Rumple’s point of view, it was his story told, not her story. We were meant to feel sympathy for Rumple and not for Milah. We never get to see Milah from her point of view, not even that much from Hook’s POV. The story is about giving Rumple reason to be angry and hurt and act the ways he did. Of course it would look different, if we were meant to have sympathy with Milah, and would get told her story. We are told Rumple’s reasoning, not Milah’s. As it is often in conflict, both sides are convinced to be right, and that their view is reasonable and the only one, and other people take sides, based on their sympathy, bias, views, own experiences. But there is not one right view, one objective truth in it, there never is, there are different views and interests.

No one is arguing, that Milah was a good person and her doings absolutely justified. Just that there are different point of views, with good and bad reasonings on both sides. Rumple was as much a coward and self-absorbed as was Milah in this.

There is though no good reason for Rumple to kill anyone for saying, she or he doesn’t love him. Rumple murdered his wife for leaving him and his son, for not loving him as she did or should have. However understandable it might be, how Rumple got there, it was a crime, it was no justifiable.

And I agree with @Epona_610. I find it very disturbing when people say, Milah got it coming, deserved what she got. Why is that necessary? To secure the idea, that Rumple was a misunderstood guy and victim before he became a villain? To reason, that he deserves Belle’s love, that it still might be okay to get happy ending? I don’t need a sob story in the past or any once-victim-vibe to believe, that it might be right to give a person, a second, maybe even third chance, and that a person could change and became a better human being, whatever evil they’ve done. I need to see them change in the present time though.

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[Myril]

Hmm I Wonder if Emma and Hook are going to prom night in Grease Land?

*hums*
“Summer loving had me a blast, oh yeah
Summer loving happened so fast,
I met a girl crazy for me,
Met a boy cute as can be … tell me more, tell me more!”

Should get my old Grease LP out then I think, maybe. (and I can’t believe, there were a few days in my life I found John Travolta somewhat interesting, ah, delusions and confusion of a teenager).
Emma is missing though the hair ribbon. Very important accessory.

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[Myril]

Just a theory on two things: First off , Has anyone ever thought that the kiss didn’t work on Marion not because Robin loves another women but because Marion is really Elsa trapped in Marion’s dead body. So a kiss from Robin would mean nothing. Dead people usually stay dead and for some reason Marion was able to travel back with Emma.

Secondly , I believe Mr. Gold needs the dagger and hasn’t betrayed anyone he is actually protecting Storybrooke from the Snow Queen who has been in Storybrooke for sometime but only has awakened by the return of Elsa. He knows that in the near future he will need the dagger to save everyone. The dagger has saved everyone before too when he killed his father Peter Pan. The Snow Queen could be Anna’s mom although she says she is her Aunt it is possible that Anna’s parents Dad and step-mom trapped her in the Urn to save Arendelle from her wrath. Remember she was sending a note from the ship to tell them the truth which led Elsa to the enchanted forest in the first place so they obviously visited there once before in order to want to go back again. How could you tell someone of a place if you never got there at least once. And if Anna and Elsa’s parents made it to the enchanted forest once before the time they died at sea. I am sure they encountered Rumpelstiltskin and probably were on their way back to make another deal with him. Rumple knows Snow Queen , Anna, Elsa and their parents.

Lastly didn’t Anna also come to Storybrooke trapped in some sort of bottle that broke and then leaked a blue liquid all throughout the stone until she materialized. They spent a lot of time showing that at the end of season and was a focal point on start of season.

Interesting, but a lot of bumps in your theory. Oh, and this is your first post, right? So welcome to the forums. New to the show? Have you watched the movie Frozen? I’m just curious.

To get the names straight: Anna (Elizabeth Lail) is the quirky red head, engaged to Kristoff, the guy with a reindeer as best buddy. We don’t know where Anna is in present time, she’s so far only shown in past time, in Arendelle and the Enchanted Forest. Elsa (Georgina Haig) is the younger blonde with the ice powers, who was trapped in the urn, in that urn came to Storybrooke, and who now is looking with the help of Emma, Hook and David for her sister Anna.

It is Elsa we see at the end of the final episode of season 3 spilling out that urn (you call it some kind of bottle), that Emma and Hook accidentally brought with them from their little time travel trip to the Enchanted Forest. The showrunners made such a big deal of it for marketing: Frozen is coming to town!

It was Anna who went to the Enchanted Forest, in Arendelle also known as Misthaven, following the parents. Anna and Elsa knew they went there because of the diary they found in the attic with the wedding dress of their mother and what the stone-troll Grand Pabbie told them. It didn’t say what or who they were looking for, just that it was about Elsa’s powers. Yes, the mother wrote a note and put it into a bottle, hoping it would reach them, but it was never shown, if the bottle message was found by anyone, we don’t know (yet) what happened to it. Guess you think the paper Anna had in hand talking to David in episode 2 was that note. Not impossible, and I was wondering too, what that paper was about, but took it then as some notes either Kristoff made for her or Anna took about what Kristoff and maybe others had told her of the Enchanted Forest. If Anna somehow got a hand on that bottle message the scene was either cut or out of whatever strange reason will come later. But that bottle message could be even just some MacGuffin for all we know, all forgotten after a while. But even without the note Anna knew, that the parents were on their way to the Enchanted Forest, and that it was about Elsa’s powers.

Possible the parents had contacts to the Enchanted Forest, were there even before, might have even crossed Rumple’s ways, but also possible some traveler told them of something or someone they hope could help. It’s not like you have to have been to a place to know about it. Just because they have no fancy internet and satellite phones in the magic lands we have seen so far, doesn’t mean they had no means to communicate, and sure people were travelling. Actually Pabbie tells Elsa and Anna, that the parents came to him asking a lot of questions about Misthaven (aka the Enchanted Forest), that’s why he could tell them, were they went (and I have no reason to think Pabbie was lying to the sisters), so it is more likely, they haven’t been there before, just heard of it and perhaps of Rumple or some powerful wizard.

I have little doubt, that in one thing the Snow Queen said the truth, she is the aunt (if she’s any related). There was no step-mom in the picture before and I see no merit in inserting one all of a sudden on the show now into the Frozen arc. I expect the Snow Queen story to mirror some of Elsa’s story, including sister(s), but things went differently for her. It makes sense to me considering that A&E like to emphasize, that evil isn’t born. Not to mention it would look even more as it already does as a Cora in Ice version, if they make the Snow Queen Elsa’s and Anna’s mother. They already are somewhat repetitive with motives for their villains.

Agree the parents might have known of the urn, that they or one of them might even have been the one trapping the Snow Queen in it, to protect Arendelle. Knowing that the urn was already inhabited, and by who, very likely would have kept them from using it on Elsa. Not to mention I doubt they would have liked to do something like that to their daughter, unless absolutely necessary. Maybe the knew the urn came though from the Enchanted Forest (maybe the Snow Queen’s and the mother’s parents had been there) and so had the thought, someone there might have something else to help.

Aside that I have been wondering for all of the past season, and even longer, what happened to Rumple’s visions of the future (did he lose that ability?), there is not much of a hint, that he is still having an idea of things to come. Rumple clings to the dagger because it’s quite simple power, control, even more so now that he has experienced someone else taking control of him via the dagger and with no good intentions (Zelena), there is no selfless motive to it (and if they make it that way I happily feed some sharks). Belle might have the talent to see the good in people’s heart, but otherwise she sucks at psychology, and if it comes to Rumple the phrase “love makes blind” rings quite true for her. Even if there would be some need for the dagger in the future, it is not a good enough explanation to let Belle believe she has the real dagger in her purse while she has a fake one. But that is more a side note here.

Important question about Rumple and the Snow Queen: Did they meet first before the Snow Queen was urned or after she got back out of it? Was Rumple maybe the one helping to urn the Snow Queen or had he no hand in that? Did the Snow Queen came to Rumple or he to her? It seems like she never made a deal with him, so guess he came to her. What did she have to offer that Rumple was after?

I didn’t get any sexual tensions from the two in the scene at the end of episode 3, different from Cora and Zelena (in whatever time period those were with Rumple, they always acted with some inuendo), so I don’t think the Snow Queen is another ex- or almost lover of Rumple.

We know she had a plan, whatever plan, and Rumple knows about it, and it at least didn’t seem to get in the way of his plans (otherwise he might have stopped her, if he could that is), or they had an alliance, trying to benefit in some ways from each other plans (for a while). If they had no deal, how come that Rumple had the urn in his vault. Leverage? Doubt he would have kept it there out of nicety.

We know the Snow Queen has a problem with non magical people, a mix of experience and arrogance I think. Was her plan about revenge? Or was it about something like creating a place for magical talented people without being hold back by some non-magical folks? Was her plan to get rid of all the muggles and other annoying beings not friendly to the idea, like some fairies, and have her own magical realm all to herself, with an elite of magical people around (and maybe some less powerful who could be servants)? The Dark Curse send some annoying people to a different world, was that something she thought to benefit from? Did she have a way to travel between worlds (water – snow-ice control connection), which might have been useful for Rumple to make sure some things would happen as he thought they had to happen. I know some wondered, if, why Rumple didn’t get that power himself, maybe he couldn’t, the Snow Queen too smart /powerful for that. And someone suggested elsewhere, that it was for Rumple never just about reuniting with his son but as much to not lose his magical powers doing so. Rumple wanted both, magic and his son back, so he created the curse, as the future visions showed him he would anyway.

Just a thought crossing my mind, if the Snow Queen was in our world during the first Dark Curse, knowing things, while everybody else was stuck without memory in Storybrooke for years: Was it perhaps the Snow Queen sending August to talk Neal into leaving Emma? Was it the Snow Queen who made sure, that Henry came to Maine, Pan just trying to butt in, his agents came too late, didn’t they.

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[Myril]

If anyone is interested:
The ancient futhark runes on the urn (and all of them in one go this time, unlike what I did on another forum)

1. Tiwaz (in this form more younger futhark, not elder), t/d, named after the god Tyr, the god of justice, but also equatet with Roman Mars, the god of war, so with glory, heroic glory, power
2. Isaz – ice, isolate, or i
3. probably Kaunaz (kaunan, kenaz, kneno) – torch, sometimes taken for knowledge, enlightenment, sometimes more in the sense of burning, fire being dangerous, burning pain as ulcer, disease, harm, standing for k, c, or German ch. Kauna usually though is in the elder futhark just “>”., in the younger has a different form
4. Thurisaz or Thurs – giant, or th
5. Isaz (again)
6. Laguz – water, lake, or L

Loose interpretation: The power (glory) to ice/freeze/isolate the harmful giant of ice (the powerful, magical being) in (the form of a kind of) water.

I’m wondering who Robin is in love with, because he didn’t say it was Regina, only that it isn’t Marian, and that he is sorry for dragging Regina into this.

So I wasn’t the only one noticing that – but think he meant Regina.

Episode had mostly good pacing and some gems in the dialogue. Enjoyable for the greater part of it.

dislikes:
Henry telling Regina, “You have to change the book because it’s wrong about you.” No, sorry, kid, your adoptive mother did evil things. time for her to accept that, stop whining and move on, and stop demanding of all the people she hurt to see her differently. That is not what should matter to Regina, if she would truly be on a way to redemption. But I am sure, some see that differently, so be it. Well, Henry is a teenager, and seems to take somewhat after his name patron and (adoptive) grandfather Henry sr., so whatever.

And Operation Mongoose? Seriously? Mongoose are said to fight cobras eventually when attacked. Mongoose is the name of a supervillain in the Marvel universe. Kinda ironic, the cobra thing, seeing that Henry named revealing Regina as Evil Queen and breaking the Dark Curse she cast operation cobra.

Just wish to fast forward this story. Don’t care about Henry-Regina bonding anymore, care little about Henry since he turned out to be Rumple’s grandson, and they once and for all killed my interest in Regina with the Zelena showdown and pixie dust soul mate destiny nonsense. Just hope they don’t go cheesy into Neverending Story territory or Inkheart (the latter I quite liked though).

Robin confessing he loves someone else (very likely Regina) over the frozen body of his wife. Possible she heard it, she’s not dead yet, and even unconscious people notice a lot of things. I don’t have a problem making Robin and Regina a couple, wouldn’t even have a problem with them being soul mates, but as hard as they try to sell it even, I just don’t feel any deeper connection between these two. Not to mention the pixie dust nonsense they started it with. I see two adults having the hots for each other, and I’m fine with that, if they would stop selling it as soul mate. Sorry, not there for my, don’t buy i, can be mostly the writing, but might be acting as well. I don’t feel anything deep going between Robin and Regina. I know, for others it is obviously there, so be it, no need to discuss. YMMV

Granny going with the mob? Has she forgotten, what she is, and how towns people went after her own granddaughter? But, right, always different when it’s not family. At least she could have been a bit more reluctant than others. And Leroy? Not the first time he is quick with judgment and call for action. Not just grumpy but a squaller. He is like way too many people in our world: Jump to conclusions, demand somebody’s head, ask later (if at all). Why bother to check facts before stiring up an angry crowd. Kinda topical seeing all the mob mentality emerging online.

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If they would stop giving RumBelle that icky good true love touch, it could be more interesting. Wouldn’t mind a more dark Belle then – but guess that is something most of audience won’t like, being so romanticized by the Disnyfied fluffy version of Beauty and the Beast. But Rumple is still good for some interesting dynamics.

So, Will Scarlett is in town. Can’t say I care, but can’t say I have anything against it at this point.

Likes:
Intrigued by the Snow Queen. Fell in love with Elizabeth when I saw her in Gia (like Angelina Jolie’s character, Gia, did) but might fall in love with her all over again. Some subtley, somewhere between sweet, ice cold, crazy, highly intelligent, powerful and menacing. Bit like Cate Blanchet as Galadriel (the one character from Tolkien’s world I so would love to see get her own movie, or become a central character in and adaption of the Silmarillion, just saying). Just hope the writers don’t mess the character up as they messed up Zelena (this show is so eating on my hope reservoirs).
edit: Diary Queen is for me as lactose intolerant being more a place of hell, so had a special smirk on face when Emma called her that.

Elsa – Hook, particular the talk in the woods. Finally someone understanding Emma, due time (has been a while since her own mother, though as Mary Margaret and unaware of being her mother showed a bit of understanding). Whatever other problems there are with Hook and some of his attitudes and doings in the past, I do think he genuinely cares about Emma, but it’s not easy to get Emma at times. So was good for him to hear Elsa’s thoughts on it. As I liked that kinda both didn’t listen to Emma.

Emma – of course, pretty much every scene. I don’t mind if Emma tries to bring a happy ending even to Regina, as long as she is allowed to call her out on her crap as she did in this episode. They don’t need to be friends to respect each other, so please, don’t turn Emma into another sweet talking, scrambled brain, Regina cheerleader like her mother Snow has become. Emma can be sassy in her own way, gets things done, is tough, and shows more of her vulnerable sides. More of that mix.

Elsa and Kristoff – nice dynamic.

I know what patience and luck it takes to get good pictures with animals. So extra carrots for what they do with Sven.

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[Myril]

Myril wrote:

Evil isn’t born, but, kid, you have blood of dark powered people and light magic people in you, so be prepared for everything. Seriously?! *headdesk*

You expected consistency?

Have heard somewhere, this show is about hope, so, keeping up hope, I guess. 😛

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[Myril]

Evil isn’t born, but, kid, you have blood of dark powered people and light magic people in you, so be prepared for everything. Seriously?! *headdesk*

And let things unfold as they ought to – of course Rumple says something like that. Fate, destiny – but have hope that fate, destiny has something good for you written in the book of doom, you can’t change it, but you can hope for the best. Medieval philosophy.

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I would vote for Archie as mayor 😉

Snow is maybe not the smartest woman in town, but still think she is not as dumb and somewhat self-absorbed as she’s been made look in the past season. I miss the witty, assertive bandit Snow from season 1. So, bring her back – that woman was ready to be a leader, she was a leader.

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[Myril]

It seems to be a general problem, just checked with www. in the url address and get the blank page as well, regardless what pc or browers. Noticed it shows a different ip, the url doesn’t resolve to the right ip address. So just use oncepodcast.com as address, no www, and it should work at the moment. (if you go via google search, what you get is https://oncepodcast.com) David pretty sure will take care of it as he said.

There’s some bug that can affect macs because of the software they use. I think the bug is called shellshock or something and it affects bosh software? It sounds really nasty so just be aware.

Shellshock is a bug exploiting unix bash shell, making it possible for hackers to execute code. At the moment that is mostly a huge headache to system administrator, because plenty of servers run on unix. If you run linux, ubuntu as operating system (OS) on your pc, you should look for a patch. Mac OSX is basically vulnerable too, but at the moment to really worry you have to work with advanced unix settings, and that is not what average users do. But Apple has released an update to be on the safer side. There had been some worries as well about iOS (ipad, iphone) and Android, they basically are vulnerable, but as with Max OSX security expert say, that so far average users don’t need to worry, most devices are still not exploitable. If anything you should check your wireless router, see if there is an update, a patch released for that.

So, just make sure to have your favorite towel always close, and otherwise relax and let others worry. Don’t panic. 😉

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I think Elsa was born with her powers.

One possibility is, that it runs in the family (maybe mother’s side, female side) but surfaces only rarely. The Snow Queen might be her aunt, and it showed in her as well.

Another possibility: Elsa’s mother was pregnant with her when she accidentally or less accidentally was frozen by the Snow Queen, who might have been even her sister. The mother’s true love, who she just had married, the prince of Arendelle, and father to Elsa and later Anna, saved her by an act of true love. But their firstborn because of these events got the ice powers. (not inherited but still born with it)

Entertaining the idea for a while, that Elsa’s parents were kinda the Gerda and Kai of the original story, though different from Andersen’s tale they were not peasants but royal, and it was not Kai who got frozen but Gerda. Haven’t really worked out that idea, but think it could be interesting.

Not liking the idea, to give Elsa a different mother, of making her the daughter of the Snow Queen. Normally I am all for not limiting family to blood related, but in this case, because of Elsa’s special power, it would feel like a cheat. Elsa is different, oh, but she was adopted, that explains it all. No, sometimes it’s not that. Sometimes you are of the blood, or genes, of the same parents, and very different from them and from your siblings. Sometimes you feel so different, that you feel like you have to be of different parents, it can feel like an odd relief to imagine, you were adopted, but you aren’t. There are no other, biological parents out there, somewhere, who would understand you better, just because they are of your blood. You are who you are and you might be very unique in your family, but you are still blood related family. That is a feeling I sense in Elsa’s story, and like, and I would prefer to keep it.

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