[Myril]

@The Fairest wrote:

But then isn’t that Regina’s fault? She’s the one who called Mr. Gold for help. She should have known better too.

It’s Regina’s fault anyway, she was the one putting Henry into this position in the first place. Should blame Emma though as well: If she had believed earlier, Henry wouldn’t have felt so desperate to prove to her, that everything in the book is true, so he suffered the sleeping curse, and now has these “nightmares”. But would otherwise the curse have been broken?

Should Regina know better? Maybe, but does she have any other choice than to call for Gold here?

But we’re talking about Gold here, his motive. My point is, that Gold is trying to do principally good here, without any ulterior motive at this moment, but he still might unwittingly put Henry even more in harm’s way, so it can look differently later. Furthermore, it doesn’t mean, that Gold, or it maybe more Rumpelstiltskin / The Dark One, won’t make use of it some other time. He is an opportunist, as Trickster wrote, amoral.

And I’m sure we’re going to get to see more of his “tougher” sides again. After all, he is still looking for his son, is he, and guess he is still willing to do a lot to find him. Not to mention there are some people who want to take revenge on him, doubt he will let that happen with some soft grandfatherly understanding attitude, he will try to squirm out of it in good ol’ Rumpelstiltskin manner.

[Myril]

Don’t be sorry, ask away!

Myril means in Sindarin cat (Sindarin is a fictional language Tolkin invented for those not knowing it).

But the name Reinhardswald has nothing to do with pure hearts, sorry, as nice as that would be. There is a myth about the origin of the forest including a count named Reinhard. Reinhard is a German name, meaning more something along brave / strong council / judgment. The forest is in Germany, right, it’s part of the Weser Uplands. In it there is a castle, the Sababurg, of which some say it was the castle of Sleeping Beauty (not true, the story doesn’t even originate there, but nice idea). Have visited the castle a couple of times. It has an enchanted ambience and is surrounded by a beautiful forest, partially a primeval forest. The Brother Grimm worked and lived in two towns nearby, first in Kassel, later in Göttingen.

Thanks for the welcome 😀

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[Myril]

Some interesting details and points you’re bringing up here, Medchen. As already has been said, there is no pure good or evil in this show though, people make good choices or bad ones, have good or bad intentions. So a person mostly might be a good person with good intentions and still sometimes do bad things or what she does turns out bad. Take for example when Snow helped Red to see Peter behind Grandma Lucas’ back, believing he is the wolf and that they could and should help him – all good intentions but the story ended very bad. No one though would even start to question, if Snow had other motives (like maybe she wanted to recrut Red as her bodyguard or so, to have a better chance against Regina), because in Snow’s case we all believe she is good (helps that she doesn’t wield any power, aka magic, just the power of being the selfless and empathetic person she is)

Now with the Blue Fairy: think she is a good person, but still someone with plenty of magic power. And magic comes with a price, no one, not even the Dark One or the Fairies are fully in control of it, and seems most of the times someone else has to pay the price. The (good) fairies are very well aware of that, I think, and so more cautious about using magic, nevertheless they use it, to bring hopefully more good than bad into the world. To do that though they might as well be inclined to keep things somewhat in order (like that dwarfs are dwarfs, fairies are fairies, and both are meant to have no emotions on their own, if anything just empathy for and or the wish to serve others). The Blue Fairy is good, but as well she is manipulative, not as much as Rumple, but nevertheless.

Is the Blue Fairy the mastermind behind everything? No. Doubt there is any mastermind at all. In retrospect it looks like everything happened for a reason and is part of a big plan, but doesn’t mean there ever has been one. We just prefer things to make sense, so we tell and remember them in ways, which can create sense and logic where there is none (hope, that makes sense).

I do agree, there might be more about the Blue Fairy than we know so far, that she is more involved in what happened than we have yet seen. She might have had the memories of her FTL identity all the time, but without the power. If I were Rumple would have actually made sure of it, included this somehow in the Dark curse as punishment and eventually as a kind of fail safe as well (twisted mind). As possible it is that the Blue Fairy could have had means to at least somewhat protect herself from the curse, not all of its effects but at least th memory-loss effect. I too doubt, that August / Pinocchio acted in our world totally on his own.

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[Myril]

Think Gold genuinely is nice to Henry in this moment, no ulterior motives. Believe he wants to change, but wanting and actually doing, being able to are not the same. Magic offers power and a seemingly easy way out, it’s addictive – and obviously Gold is not yet there to step away from it, is he.

Even when his intentions occasionally are good and without any ulterior motives, his doings nevertheless can have bad ramifications. Magic comes with a prize doesn’t mean you’re or anyone is in control what you’re paying for it, or who will pay it, not even if you’re the Dark One. So with the good intention to help Henry here Gold / Rumple might have set something in motion which could end bad, harming Henry or someone else close to him.

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[Myril]

@PriceofMagic wrote:

If Billy was a mouse, why was he brought over as anything but a mouse? Could he talk? Was he a magic mouse? Had he been turned into a mouse but was previously human?

How many other residents of Storybrooke are former creatures of fairytale land?

Wondering about the too for a while now. After all, they play around a lot with Disney versions of fairy tales and stories, and there are some with animal characters. In Disney’s Cinderella there is indeed a mouse named Gus, or Octavius, short Gus. He is saved in the beginning by Cinderella. Considering the mice of Cinderella can speak a bit of English, they might be magic mice, maybe even cursed or turned humans (the movie doesn’t say, but there is nothing in it speaking against that option). It would make sense, that Billy / Gus once has been a human, seeing how the curse worked on Jiminy Cricket.

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