[Myril]

Emma needs a friend more than anything else, someone not already caught up in all of the other relationships around,and not only a dashing pirate lover. Emma and Elsa share feeling uneasy with their own magical powers, know a life of isolation as children, and being thrown into a strange world. I am rather tired of all the romance and family drama, the shows I like most were always shows with at least one strong, important friendship in it.

I wouldn’t mind if Emma and Elsa get their own show and let Regina, and Rumple and the rest have this one. Maybe Mulan and Red can join and have some great adventures.

Guess it will last for this half season, after that will be probably more of a Facebook friendship, Elsa hopefully reunited with Anna, Kristoff, back in Arendelle, trying to rebuild things there, or something. Sometimes mentioned in OUaT but not shown.

[Myril]

First and foremost, Bo-Peep was ridiculous. And not in the fun way. She was over the top, wearing a horrible costume, and her entire motivation and plot just felt absurd. She brands people and they are her flock?

Boo Peep’s ridiculousness as big bad of the village was the point IMO. While I found that kind of ridiculousness mostly annoying last season with Zelena, I find it quite nice for a one episode villain. It didn’t work with Zelena, because making your big threat of the half season the joke of the moment for most of the time takes away the tension keeping the story interesting. But for this one episode villain it was okay. Particular because it was Bo Peep as villain. What was risky was to make the second episode of the season already some rather lightweight episode with a few serious moments embedded. The balance of tone was not quite working, but that was not just about Bo Peep. The whole episode was basically a comedy with some serious Emma-Elsa bonding moments in between, and the prevalence of the comical parts took away from the great moment Emma – Elsa stuff. And from David’s great emotional moment.

I mean, probably the fairyback was not meant to be that comical, though with bubbly Anna around things might always have a touch of comical, but be it Bo Peep, Anna training David in sword fighting (guess swords just lay around at every corner in the EF, farmer’s market snatch), even David’s dramatic dialogue about losing his father, it all had something funny. Add Snow’s moments and Hook (sorry, Hook is always good for a joke, and that is nice, but this was too much joky, let’s take the guy a bit more serious please, if you want to get me respect CaptainSwan at any time in the near future). I mean, yeah for getting campy, and not taking things all serious, but there is a right and a wrong time for that.

Jane Espenson has written some great stuff (and some not so great), but usually she knows to do dialogue (better than plot!plot!plot!), but this episode’s dialogue was at times clunky and the comical tone sometimes misplaced. At least I think Emma meeting someone she probably has a lot to connect over with, over important things to work out her emotion and magic power issues, would have deserved more seriousness. I get it, high tension, much comical relief, but sometimes it’s better to keep more the tension.

Perhaps though it was just all the styrofoam ice wall set that took me out of the seriousness of the moments, Georgina Haig and Jennifer Morrison really did a good job trying to sell the freezing and tension to us, can’t blame them, without their skills it would have been a joke as well.

Faves:

– Emma and Elsa moments. Can we keep Elsa around? Going to ship their friendship (would’t be surprised if some will ship more than friendship, wouldn’t mind, but look more for the friendship on the show in this case)

– Loved Robin Weigert as Bo Peep. The costume, lovely, finally a villain in color, dusky pink, not gloomy dark. And later seeing her as butcher in Storybrooke was just hilarious. Great her balance between dead serious character but comical sense, a fine line to walk, and Robin Weigert has played characters in ways I found them seriously intimidating, something not many people do.

– Pretty much no Regina and Rumple.

– The introduction of Elizabeth Mitchell’s character. We all like ice cream, don’t we, the creeper’ss cliche of a child trap: The ice cream truck. In a place like Storybrooke an ice cream shop might be as good. Heard a voice in my head humming: “Wanna have some ice cream? Wanna know what I have in my freezer?”Just great.

least fave:

– Hook. I normally don’t mind him or CaptainSwan, and I never before had a problem with him being a bit of a joke at times, but even I find it had not that much charm in this episode. What’s wrong with him, losing it because with his ship he lost kinda his footing? He starts to get on my nerves (and maybe Emma’s too if he goes on like that). Not a good sign that I am not sure if that is intentional, I hope for the best, that the pirate is brooding, still in this episode it annoyed me.

– The styrofoam ice wall – and I love some shows with “bad” CGI and special effects and probs, Xena was at times hilarious, Dr. Who is a league on it’s own, Star Trek The Originals and Lost in Space are just fun, and I am a big fan of Raumpatrouille Orion. But this ice wall…

Despite that I think there was in imbalance of comical elements and drama, and clunky dialogue, I nevertheless enjoyed most of the episode. Even found Henry’s moments bearable. And there where a few lines in it telling me, the writers do notice some things have been missing.

Question: How did David and Kristoff meet? I mean, I like that they were friends, but was Kristoff doing some world trip as journeyman to become ice master? Did Pabbie sent him on such a trip to learn some things? (Some fan fiction idea for Frozen fans 😉 )

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[Myril]

Right, because no dead body was shown on the show, they could come up with something if they need to, thought still would find it rather contrived. Aside that the whole dialogue sounded like the fairy tale description of a typical drama show moment, father drunkard, got drunken, died in car crash, uhm carT crash, just luckily no other family member in the cart or so. I had a laughing fit at the end (because of the “wreckage of our cart at the bottom of a ravine”) and so the whole serious emotional drama moment for David was lost on me. Nevertheless I don’t think at this point they plan this to be a fake story.

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[Myril]

Why is it that as soon as Regina slips up Oncers seem to forget the ‘good’ she has done and focus on the ‘bad’ meanwhile Rumple is given a different sort of reasoning that places him above her (talking in general terms). If your going to judge one character judge the others in the same way or else it will all be for nought.

My theory: People are more ready to forgive Rumple because of why and how he went down the road to dark power: to protect Bae. Although one could say, he did it as much so that other people would stop to humiliate him, Rumple, the bullied became the bully. He created the Dark Curse because it seemed to him the only (because visions of future, fate told him so) way to find and reunite with his son, who he had abandoned, the only way to correct the wrong he did to him. So at the root of Rumple’s evilness are good intentions. He kinda just got a bit out of hand with things, overdid it. The Dark One is a beast of his own, one can think of it as something, that has befallen the poor man, while deep, deep down he has a good heart. The moment Rumple became the Dark One it was not just him acting but that terrible demon as well. The evil is not Rumple, the evil and the villain is the Dark One. Rumple doesn’t need to be redeemed, only need to be freed of the demon, that possess him – no surprise that Rumple’s struggle is more compared with addiction than that of Regina. It’s kinda easy to feel pity with Rumple, even more so because he has the sweet and lovable Belle at his side, a very sympathetic character, one many would like to call a friend I think, speaking up for him.

Furthermore. Rumple is, I think, less shown to make innocent, sympathetic people suffer or let alone kill them. He did good and stopped the Ogre wars (whoever had to pay for that), the men of the duke were shown as bullies (wearing pretty much just black color assigned bad guys), Milah was a bad mother and wife, had abandoned Rumple and even more evil her son for some fancy bullying pirate. The carter Rumple turned into a snail and crushed, seemed to be arrogant and violent-tempered and yelled at Bae. Gaston was a bore and only turned into a rose (could have survived that, although Belle cut his feet, and he probably withered away), and Zelena terrorized everybody and had a hand in Neal’s death. We nearly have forgotten, that Rumple had killed their maid just for hearing about the dagger, it was never shown, only hinted at. One exception is maybe Robin, who was tortured by Rumple for whatever, it was quite a drastic punishment for attempted theft, he was about to kill him even, but in the end his good heart probably took over and he made the arrow, which couldn’t miss, miss the target. And Cinderella’s god fairy mother, but we had no chance to learn if she was more of the good kind or a rigid warden with ambiguous motives alike the Blue Fairy. Rumple didn’t do that much bad, did he, he was mostly desperate and otherwise possessed by the Dark One, so we can even pity Rumple.

Compare that to Regina. Regina started down the road to darkness to take vengeance, which might have been justifiable, but still is not as glory has righting your own wrongs. Instead of going after the person who actually killed her lover Daniel, she went for a scapegoat, who was manipulated by that very killer, by Cora – which changed the maybe understandable wish for justice into a blind and wrong crusade for revenge, which additionally seemed to include more jealousy (the spoiled brat does something stupid but gets away with it, she gets attention and love, everything laid down to her feet and doesn’t know to make good of it, doesn’t think of consequences…). Regina even had a chance, after she had sent her mother to another world, to leave and find happiness somewhere else, twice actually, but she didn’t do it. Instead of trying to tell Leo the truth she went with the lies of her mother and even killed him to get the power of ruling a kingdom herself, although some argue she freed that way herself as much from an abusive husband. She went after Snow and tried to kill her several times, she massacred a village in her quest for revenge, or if you prefer to affirm her rule over the kingdom, extorted or tricked children to get her something for her revenge (the apple from the blind witch), not minding they might get killed trying so, she enslaved Graham, she conspired to kill her own mother, she killed her own father. Regina sent her soldiers to go after an innocent child to stop it from being a possible threat to her plan of “happiness”. Not only is Regina shown doing terrible things, she is shown enjoying it, and she doesn’t have the excuse of being possessed by some demonic power.

At the beginning of season 2 some sometimes used addiction to magic as well as an explanation for Regina’s struggle to listen to her son Henry and stop doing bad things, but haven’t heard that for a while anymore. Instead Regina is seen as a person with emotional and maybe even mental problems, maybe caused by her abusive mother and the manipulations of Rumple, or she is sadly the daughter of a psychopath, and seeing that her mother and her half-sister had some problems themselves, it might unfortunately be a family thing, incurable as much as redemption wouldn’t apply. How did they phrase it just in the season premiere of Criminal Minds: “Genetics. Didn’t have much of a chance” (imagine me hurling a huge virtual wrecking ball through the screen and throwing a number of tables around, I can turn into a she-hulk hearing such simplifying nonsense). Yes, I know, the writers claim time and again, that evil isn’t born, but that is not quite what they show on the show, is it.

While Rumple became dark out of desperation, Regina became dark for vengeance. While Rumple was tricked into becoming the Dark One (at least some see it that way), Regina had, though manipulated by Rumple and Cora, choices. The reasons and degree of evilness of Regina and Rumple is different on the show and even more in the decoding or perception of the audience. So consequently expectations of what they have to do for redemption are different.

Let us not forget the other main villain (of sorts) in this show Hook. The writers have shown a great deal of change and goodness in Regina and Rumple, in Hook it appears to me as if they have barely or partially shown any of this and have decided to fast forward his redemption and just hand him his happy ending on a golden plate. We have not really seen him go through the turmoil Regina and Rumple have experienced and it very much irritates me as it would be good to have an insight into that side of Hook’s character which I think has been skipped.

I know of people saying pretty much the opposite, while Rumple and Regina are shown in a stale back and force between doing evil and doing something good in their opinion, Hook is the one who has shown remorse and is truly trying to change. Different readings of the same text.

It might play a role, that pirates have been quite romanticized thanks to Disney and others. Pirates of the Caribbean sure did some work to affirm that, and even a show like Black Sails, as graphic as it is, is still romanticizing. Pirates are rebels and as thus have a certain freedom to be rude and brutal, or should say maladjusted, pirate life is a rough life, a constant adrenalin kick. But they have a code, don’t they. And they attack the rich and powerful and their servants, or so is the romantic myth.

We see Hook bully Rumple, attack Aurora and Belle, Belle even twice, have a sword fight with Emma, didn’t seem to mind Emma and her team imprisoned and stranded in the Enchanted Forest, hardly intervened when Cora killed the people in Safe Have, let the Lost Boys have Bae, but whatever he does, he does it with seemingly charm and a grain of self-mockery or with a touch of defeat and sadness. And Hook got frequently beaten (remember the Hook-Floor ship?). He is either too charming or too much of a joke to be taken serious as villain for any long time. We don’t get to see any of what he did as pirate before he met Milah. We don’t know how brutal or still honorable and more presenting a show he was, that is wide open for interpretations. What we got to see was, that he didn’t mind the means to get his revenge though.

Like Regina Hook was driven by vengeance. He became a pirate because of feeling betrayed by the system he had believed in, the king, the navy, he lost his brother due to them, he had no loyalties to anyone but free life. Hook got obsessed with revenge when he lost the woman he loved, but a least he went after the person who had killed her, Rumple, and that as a bit of an underdog, because by then Rumple had already the mighty powers of the Dark One. I am not sure if Hook really is all done with revenge, for certain he is not friends with Rumple now, but he realized, that his quest for revenge was a dead end. I wouldn’t be so sure though, that Hook has his happy ending already in the bag, he might get happy moments but wouldn’t confuse that with happy ending, and not just because of Emma’s struggle with herself, but wouldn’t be surprised, if Hook will have a kind of relapse. Saying he is on a road of redemption would be wrong, he doesn’t care to get redeemed. And as the goal justified for him any means while he was on his vengeance trip, I think there is still a chance the same could happen if Emma were in danger.

We generally are more understanding if we like a person, or a character, more willing to find good explanations, see that they are trying though maybe failing, we usually struggle to call a person out for bad stuff without fuss or quibble if we like them. The more we like a person, even identify with them, the less likely we will convict, condemn them, or at least if then we go for a lenient sentence. Lawyers know of the effect of sympathy, it’s defense 101. Research has shown, that something as seemingly small as the camera angle of a videotaped confession can have influence on assessment of a confession: A camera angle focused on the suspect makes it more likely that the confession is perceived as voluntary and the suspect as guilty. While focusing the camera on the interrogator makes people question more the reliability of the confession. Good directors and DP’s/ camera people know a lot about influences of camera angle on perception, emotion, what framing can do. Just saying.

Eventually though, when pushed too hard to feel sympathy, the opposite can happen as well, it is felt as forced, unearned, the person/character becomes disliked. When disliked a person has to do so much more to get (back) on our good side.

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[Myril]

He seems to equate whatever he did in his past as being equal to Regina.

Robin called Regina “bold and audacious”, so I doubt a bit his judgment in things. If he implies, whatever he was in the past is in some way alike to what Regina has done, then it still could be rather being “just” some reckless and selfish jerk. Dark past can be something relative.

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[Myril]

….I guess I can understand Regina’s frustration in wanting to change her history. She’s tired…she’s exhausted….

I understand feeling exhausted and tired about how things are developing in one’s life and the itch to blame everything and everybody (other and oneself) all too well, think many do. But to me that is why I am disappointed in how they handle especially Regina on the show, and to some degree Emma, because pixie dust dreams, make it look like destiny takes its (good) course regardless, dreams of changing the past or attempts of retelling it so it fits your views and all would be good – all that are easy ways out, and ways not working usually, or they might work for one but mostly hurt and make other people around you suffer. It might look like fairy tales make that promise, that there always is a happy ending (for the good guys), but only if we see just the ending of the stories, which IMO makes fairy tales rather boring, because, we always know the ending before the story even started, it will be happy. But the ending is not the important part, it’s how they get there, that is where the moral can be found, if there is one in fairy tales.

Right, having the hope there could be a happy ending is important, but staring at the end keeps you from seeing the moments right in front of you. I figured a while ago, that I find a piece of happiness every time I master a day and still can look me in the eyes the next day and have the feeling I did (mostly) right by my principles of life. It’s not about the question if I am lovable and have been loved by others but if I have loved. That doesn’t make my life a big success story in terms of family, relationships, career, whatever, actually it sucks quite a lot at the moment, but I find happiness despite. It’s often not easy, but it’s possible.

I can see, why A&E see similarities between Regina and Emma, because they have, though different reasons and some differences in approach, the same problem, to do that, to love. But Regina has blamed everybody but herself, while Emma blames herself, that is the huge difference between the two, a significant one, and I think A&E might not quite get at times.

And Rumple likes to blame fate or his lack of power.

But you think Regina DOES think of consequences?! She’s always pitying herself for having to deal with consequences of the terrible things she’s done.

Agree, she tends to blame everybody but herself, and then jumps into action to either make them suffer for it (the year’s she was bend on revenge against Snow) or change things to do her bidding (the Dark Curse or now the idea to change the rules of the book). Regina might believe she’s thinking things through, but she doesn’t.

I wonder how much the coming back from death has actually affected Rumple and how many of his current misdemeanours are actually a result of that?

There should be effects. But seeing that these writers seem not to be good in writing consequences so far, emotional effects of what the characters do, unless it makes some niftfy plot!plot!plot! toy, I fear we’re not getting to see much of that.

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[Myril]

As long as that book labels her as a villain, that’s what everyone will forever think of her as no matter what she does!

Not the book is labeling Regina a villain, her doings qualified her as such. That will never change, unless someone goes back in time and stops Regina from doing any of the terrible things she did. The book only records what has happened. Regina has been a villain. Will she stay a villain? That is up to her, what she is doing now. Can she have a happy ending of some sorts? Yes, she can. Again, that is up to her and what she is doing. It might not be quite the happy ending she is dreaming of, not a living happily ever after with Robin maybe, or maybe it will even, but that is nothing the book or fates destines, that is what she will make of whatever life is throwing at her.

Will others ever see anything different in her than the villain? Snow quite sure doesn’t see her just as villain, nor does Emma. They see either a woman who suffered as well or one of Henry’s mothers. Do they forget Regina has been a villain? No, and why should they. Forgiving doesn’t mean one has to forget. Have they forgiven? I am not sure about that, and not sure if they should, but that is sure very open for different views.

I prefer it to be Regina’s own ability, powers, insights to take her to a happy ending and not let some pixie dust, book or fate be responsible for it.

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[Myril]

I guess this is the big problem. You think to be as close to the original art is the best way to translate or localize a pice of art while I think translating from one language to another is an art itself.
These are just two different kind of philosophies. The difference is that you think someone who doesn’t follow yours is just wrong.

Right, on can say, I want them stay close to the original art, out of respect for that art. I don’t want a word by word, literal translation, but the show is not the art work of whoever is doing the titles in German but the work of A&E and their team of writers – and I expect the translation to stay true to their work, and that includes the episode titles. We’re not talking creating fan fiction here or some German reproduction of the show, which would offer some more creative freedom.

Translation into another language is an art in itself, I agree, but one these German title makers don’t master IMO, or don’t care about. What they do is marketing strategy, they assume that these titles are more appealing to a German audience. Maybe they’re right, and it sells better with those titles, but they take away from the original art created, they don’t care to keep the tone the creators of the show have set (the most difficult task in translating), they care about what they think a German audience might find interesting enough to tune in.

Captain America is as such known as well in Germany, they didn’t use a different name in the comics here. But what is truly hilarious about the German film title is that it is not German at all, the change of title was plain marketing strategy (as was the English title).

One is about business and selling it to a specific market, the other about good translation. They might sell it better, but I still dislike it from the point of view of art.

@MatthewPaul I haven’t watched Sailor Moon myself, but I read a bit about the criticism of the U.S. american dubbed version of it. It’s an example of how dubbing was used to even change the text of a show and adapt it to a different culture, ignorant to the context and text of its original culture (though one can do the same with subtitles). Besides changing names they erased the gay/lesbian/bisexual/queer sides of the characters. Not how I like art to be handled.

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[Myril]

Nice overview!

I have a beef with German movie/show/episode titles anyway. They have a knack for stupid translations, titles making no sense at all, using a different title when absolute unnecessary or use English titles but not the originals. In German “Captain America: The Winter Soldier” became “The Return of the First Avenger” – that English title, no German translation, no kidding. The Heat they retitled as “Taffe Mädels” (Tough Girlies), very funny.

I disagree with my fellow countrypeople or German speakers on here, sorry, I find most of the German titles bad.

The problem I have is, that titles are often not some random something, but the writers choose titles with a reason, an that too often gets lost in the German titles. At least they should try to hit the tone of the original titles and not come up with some free interpretations of their own, titles sadly enough sometimes proving, they don’t even have much of an idea what an episode is about. There might be shows, where writers don’t put thought in their titles, but I think OUaT is not one of them.

“High Price for Gold” is a bad blunder IMO, not getting the tone of the original title nor getting the essence of the episode. Why not keep “7:15am”, it’s not like we have a different time system in Germany.. Changing “Skin Deep” to “The Beauty and the Beast” takes away the poetry of the orginal title, “Oberflächlich” (= skin deep) would have had so much more implied. “Verträumt” would have been a better fit for “Dreamy”. “A Mothers Feelings” is just so annoying German and totally ignorant, that the title is a reference to the Arthurian legend. “The Malicious World of the Queen” for “Evil Queen” made me spill my coffee, why so complicate? The title for “Nasty Habits” is just as stupid and ignorant to the intention of the writers as it can get, at least they could have made is simple and used “Song of the Pied Piper” (Das Lied des Rattenfängers). “Outsider” was twisted to “On the Border”, well, yeah, guess German nature is somewhat borderline, so might explain that choice. And okay, “Red Handed” is pretty hard to translate in a good way in this case, but nevertheless “Auf frischer Tat” (what red handed means in German) would have been still the better title.

A few are decent, and a few even rather good. Although “Fluch der Freiheit” would have done it (why the “new” in the title?). “Butterfly effect” for “Stableboy” had something, and “Curse and Reconciliation” even more, reminding at least me of Dostoyevsky’s “Crime and Punishment” (Schuld und Sühne).

But really, I have no clue why we can’t do to one word titles in German, “Crocodile’s Wrath”, “Doctor from another land”, “Dream of Tallahassee”… oh, please. This is not a contest for cheesy poetry. There seem to be some unwritten rule, that German titles can’t be just one word or so. We never can make anything simple, short and catchy is nothing for our deep going intellectual and sentimental German minds. LOL

And don’t get me started about the habit of dubbing in Germany. It drives me at times up the walls. See one actor act but hear another one act, and it’s not just at times rather stupid interpretations and even mistakes in translation, it’s the acting, voice is a part of it, for crying out loud. Not to mention that they sometimes choose voices totally not fitting. Additional it can be very irritating to see different actors with the same voice on screen, I do pay attention to voices.

Biggest fun I had was recently the movie “Her”, which I watched in original English (Scarlett Johansson was brilliant) and then in German because of friends. The German version was at best only half as good, and nothing against the German actress giving her voice, Luise Helm, but it meant, there was no Scarlett Johansson in the German Version despite that she was listed in the credits of course, what a joke.

The German dubbed version of OUaT is terrible IMO. The voices are pretty much all a pitch too high, and the really flat sound they seem to prefer in Germany makes it even worse. Snow sounds like a kid, David has no character, Emma sometimes squeaks like a teenager. Somehow have the impressions they thought it is for children’s program. And Regina, well, no commentary, Lana Parrilla’s voice work gets lost of course.

Found a German trailer for the season 02, so a little taste of the German voices

I think the most humorous international episode title so far has to be “Green Is the New Black” for the German version of “New York City Serenade.”

Yeah, hilarious. We Germans have humor, surprise. Although I wonder where that came from, maybe a secret fan of the Netflix show (Netflix just came to Germany though). Despite that the German title has not much to do with the episode, but who cares, it fits the last minutes.

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How many liters of water did they throw at Pascale Hutton, Oliver Rice and the ship crew in the storm scene at the beginning? Hope it was warm enough, but shivered a bit just seeing it. And ponder if it would make an interesting behind the scenes docu to show, what it takes to get a “small” scene like this from script to screen, preparations, logistics, probs/costumes to shooting, CGI, editing, sound and scoring. It’s so easy to forget sometimes how much effort and working hours and people power goes into just a minute of the show.

least favorite:

Regina.
Can people stop tiptoeing around Regina?
And again it’s Regina saving the day while the rest is running around headless or knocked out by one tiny blow. Marian pleading with teary voice for help to Regina made me cringe even more. Why give the character character, she’s just some gimmick to trigger Regina’s newest back and forth.
Regina had kinda forgotten that she had locked up Sidney again or all the time (what was with him in the EF?) – yup, she is such a reformed person and closer to redemption. But right, Sidney by now is so fanatic about her and crazy that he better should stay locked up (and Regina should better watch her back), so she did right. Whatever.

Robin – what an honorable thief. Being Regina’s cheerleader doesn’t suits him well though, I just can’t take this character any serious. Love makes blind, or so.

Rumple’s scene at the grave of his son was pathetic, and not in a good sense. Rumple should have made a deal, he is not good at keeping promises.

The dance scene, including the set-up and follow-up. Just no. Disney cheesy overdose aside this relationship just gives me the creeps. Rumple lies to Belle, he tricks her, takes the dagger and puts it back as it pleases him, wows her with illusions. And Belle is all giddy adventure with him. Bad memories coming up. Good thing that I watch most of the time recorded so can fast forward through this.

favorite:

Elsa and Anna. Glad that Georgina Haig not just looks pretty much like Elsa but gives her some depth and nuance without being just a blunt copy of the animated version. Elizabeth Lail is great as Anna. If you compare the character to how Elizabeth appears in interviews you can see it is plenty of acting, she is quite a different person. But on screen she is pretty much like animated Anna, perky, wired, gaily, but adding her own touch. And her voice: so close, amazing. Only beef: costumes and wigs, somehow making them stiff.

Sven. Brilliant!

conclusion:
Not sure if the Frozen story will be good, but the characters as introduced were enjoyable and so will stick around for that. If it comes to the stories of the regular cast: don’t give a monkey. Okay, maybe a tiny bit still care what they bring up for Emma, minus Hook though.

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