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weeted Jane Espenson and she said “It sure looks like her.” If you go back and watch the scene it shows much more than the photo. I think we may find that something changed in the timeline and this was purposefu
That literally means nothing. People look like other people all the time. Alice wasn’t even a thought in their head at this point except that she was probably Grace’s mother and Jefferson’s wife but then that idea got lost when they lost Seb. When WL became an idea for them they created Alice from scratch as someone who has never been to SB, someone who spent the entirety of the curse years in an asylum. All Jane is doing is acknowledging that this random extra bears a somewhat resemblance to actress Sophie Lowe. Seriously, this literally means nothing
I appreciate the discussion RumplesGirl. You brought up some good points so I’ve done some digging.
First, I should say that I’ve been keeping an eye out for surprise background characters ever since I heard Zelena say this to Mary Margaret in Witch Hunt, “You were a princess,and some of us were just supporting players.” At the time I found the comment interesting and a possible hint to keep an eye on the OUaT extras. Now that we know magical people have been in Storybrooke before the first curse was broken…ie the Snow Queen and we have learned that having your heart outside your body protects you from the curse (which means Cora was probably not frozen those 28 years) and we know Zelena had the silver slippers which means she could come and go at will….well…who knows who we have seen sitting at Granny’s or in a Town Hall meeting. Zelena could have been trolling around as anyone…so could the Snow Queen and maybe even Cora.
But back to Sophie Lowe being spotted in The Rabbit Hole during Skin Deep… here are some of the things I have found.
1. Others have suggested we may see characters in the background.
Ironically, on a different Once podcast archive these comments were made right after Season 1 – Skin Deep aired on February 12, 2012.
onceuponatimepodcast.com
Responses to OUAT – We know the name of the bar where Sean proposed to Ashley.
obisgirl says: February 17, 2012 at 6:13 am-
The Rabbit Hole? really? that’s the real name of it. you know what that reminds me of though, right? Alice following the rabbit that lead her the hold, where she fell in which took her to Wonderland.
Manny says: February 17, 2912 at 3:55pm
I’m sure that’s what was intended! If so… keep your eyes out for those we may have pegged as “AIW” (Alice in Wonderland) characters, ie; Alicia from Granny’s….or Mr. “K” as (mabybe the MadHatter?) walking around in the background!!…
Sure enough…watching the clip of Girls Night Out…not only does she look like Sophie Lowe’s Alice…her mannerisms are spot on. Of course we could have someone else, who may have brought magic with them, and glamorized themself to look like Alice.
2. Sophie Lowe announced April 2, 2013
Sophie Lowe was announced as Alice on April 2, 2013, which is a little less than fourteen months after the Skin Deep episode aired.
2. The Mystery “Plot” Hole that showed up after the wraith at the beginning of season two.
I do believe the writers knew they were going to expand the Alice story because of the big huge hole in the street that showed up in Storybrooke in the early fall of 2012. They never explained the hole…we all assumed it was damage from the wraith. Later in the episode where Alice and Cyrus go to Storeybrooke, they create a similar hole, so I feel confident the writers knew what they wanted to do for quite sometime before the announcement of Sophie Lowe on April 2, 2013.
3.At the San Diego Comic Con July 2013 Kitsis and Horowitz were asked how and when they decided to do the spinoff.
“Kitsis/Horowitz: A long tine gestating. Initially approached to do the spin-off after the first season but didn’t have a fully-realized idea. Loved going to Wonderland and felt there was a big story for Alice, but not enough room in Once for her. For fans of Once or newcomers to either show.
4. Interview with Fan TV – October 10, 2013
Fan Voice: What were the differences in developing Once Upon a Time in Wonderland than when you were developing the original Once?
Edward Kitsis: The difference is that Wonderland was an idea that came out of Once because we had all these Alice stories but we felt like there was no room for them in Once. So when we went to pitch it, we were like, “Here” and we already had a template that they understood. For Once Upon a Time, we basically came in and said, “What if the evil queen cast a curse and brought them all to this world and it was up to the daughter?” They were learning the show and for this one (Wonderland) we had the benefit of things learned from Once and really just two years of this idea sitting in our head.
5. Michael Socha interview with Young Hollywod
When Michael Socha was asked this question his response is interesting when it comes to Sophie Lowe.
YH: Did you study any of the other versions of the Knave of Hearts prior to playing this one?
MS: “With the Knave of Hearts, I watched the Johnny Depp one, Alice in Wonderland and read a little bit about his character in the actual book, Alice in Wonderland. Sophie Lowe, who is playing Alice, has already got a little bit of history. Naveen Andrews, who plays Jafar, also has Aladdin to reference. I think I’m a bit lucky because I get to make my own version of him. He hasn’t really been invaded yet. [chuckles] I’m lucky. I get to create my own version of him. It’s amazing.”
I feel comfortable that nothing contradicts the possibility of Alice being spotted in the background…or someone posing as Alice. I’ve said in other threads that I believe we are going to find out the timeline has been altered and the alterations show up in season one before Snow Falls. This could account for Alice being there…or there could be another explanation.
Speaking of Snow Falls….if you will go back and look at the original episode, inside the coach…at the covering of the cushions..also looking at the pouch with the ring…as well as the soldiers on the horses and then compare it to when Emma and Hook travel back in time you will see that something has changed. It appears to have changed before Emma ever messed up the history with her snapping broken branch, of course, stealing the clothes off the clothesline could have enacted the butterfly effect and changed everything.
Kitsis and Horowitz made a big deal about how difficult it was to film and splice everything together seamlessly. The BIG interesting tell that there something has happened is that they changed things that did not have to be shot again…did not have to be filmed new or spliced in.
– For example, the carriage approaching…they could have used the same shot but they shot it again and in one the driver has a beard and in the other the driver does not, also the capes are a different length.
– The interior of the coach…the cushion David is sitting on is old in one and brand new in the Emma timeline.
– The pouch is set down in different places.
These are shots that they did not have to film again but they did. I think something happened to alter the timeline and it is possible it could have occurred before Season 1 and we have not seen that “something” yet. I think when Emma went back she either changed it or “landed” before the “something” happened. I think that this has yet to unfold and will put a new spin on everything.
I could be wrong, but so many things point to it happening… including finding Alice at the Rabbit Hold. When Jafar broke the laws of magic, someone else could have gone back in time and we have not learned about it yet. Who knows what could have happened when he broke those laws. Whatever it is…I believe they have had it planned from the beginning.
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After watching Enter the Dragon I rewatched Skin Deep……look who I found at The Rabbit Hole! Alice or her perfect doppelganger! Curioser and Curioser! The camera stays on her for quite a while.
Well, first. That’s not Sophie Lowe. Second, WL hadn’t even been thought up in the minds of Adam and Eddy and so it wasn’t consciously done if some 100/day extra looks like someone they cast two years later for a totally different show. And third, the camera isn’t on her. It’s on Snow and Ashley. Hence why they are the focus.
I tweeted Jane Espenson and she answered and said “It sure looks like her.” If you go back and watch the scene it shows much more than the photo…the scene is quite extended with her speaking, laughing….etc. I think we may find that something changed in the timeline and this was purposeful. We do know that Wonderland was going to be part of the story (whether or not it got its own spin-off) because we see the Alice in Wonderland page of the book in the pilot episode. They could have had their Alice picked out from the beginning. We also have a big shift in the way the interior of the rabbit hole looks surrounding the table where the girls are siting and, it is called The Rabbit Hole, which is a direct reference to Alice in Wonderland. I think if you will watch the scene you will see what I am talking about.
This episode also has scenes in the Dark Star Pharmacy. The first scene there is obvious snow falling outside the windows. The second scene the snow has stopped. It reminds me of “It’s a Wonderful Life.”
(another picture)
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After watching Enter the Dragon I rewatched Skin Deep……look who I found at The Rabbit Hole! Alice or her perfect doppelganger! Curioser and Curioser! The camera stays on her for quite a while.
Well, first. That’s not Sophie Lowe. Second, WL hadn’t even been thought up in the minds of Adam and Eddy and so it wasn’t consciously done if some 100/day extra looks like someone they cast two years later for a totally different show. And third, the camera isn’t on her. It’s on Snow and Ashley. Hence why they are the focus.
I tweeted Jane Espenson and she said “It sure looks like her.” If you go back and watch the scene it shows much more than the photo. I think we may find that something changed in the timeline and this was purposeful.
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[mod] Guys, please start a new thread if there is a new observation or idea you wish to discuss. Bumping a very old spoiler thread from last season is rather silly since this does not pertain to anything related to episode 407 or to the current arc. Thank you [/mod[
I think before long we are all going to be revisiting old spoiler threads and we are going to find that all the threads are connected.
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I’ve been reading through past threads today (home sick with a bad cold and a great way to pass the time) and your post connected with something I’ve been kicking around for a while. I could be wrong but I don’t think Cora is dead, as in really, really dead…forever dead. A magic candle was used to “kill” her…but the candle used to “kill” her was her own magic. When Rumple used the cuffs on Peter Pan they did not work because they were Peter’s own magic. If Cora is alive she may be in a different form…who knows…there are so many possibilities. I would love for this to be true because there is so much more that could be explored with Cora. She is a villain who gets under my skin.
We saw Cora’s ghost in “Bleeding Through” though, via a spell Regina used that’s specifically intended to contact the dead.
Right…but the spell to contact the dead didn’t work. The portal opened and she did not come through. There was however a fake mirror in the hallway that vanished and since she appeared upstairs it appears she was somehow connected with that disappearing mirror. We were left to assume that the spell only partly worked.
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I love Cora as a villain as well and am excited to see her again this season. In addition to MatthewPaul said, do we know that Cora actually created the magic candle? Perhaps she just acquired somehow, and it was made by someone else.
That is certainly a possibility.
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In the clock tower? Emma used a magic candle. You go girl! And, aw, will Mary Margaret let wild magical Emma anywhere near the baby? I’d be scared of her too.
I’ve been reading through past threads today (home sick with a bad cold and a great way to pass the time) and your post connected with something I’ve been kicking around for a while. I could be wrong but I don’t think Cora is dead, as in really, really dead…forever dead. A magic candle was used to “kill” her…but the candle used to “kill” her was her own magic. When Rumple used the cuffs on Peter Pan they did not work because they were Peter’s own magic. If Cora is alive she may be in a different form…who knows…there are so many possibilities. I would love for this to be true because there is so much more that could be explored with Cora. She is a villain who gets under my skin.
*A random extra: When Anna and Elsa were in the attic admiring the wedding dress there was a bed frame leaning against the wall. It is the same bed frame that was in the room where Cora had on her wedding dress.
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I LOVE THIS THREAD! Nealfanforever, I respect and love your passion for this show. Your thoughts are backed up by so many facts and examples. Please know that your posts are read by many, and you have given us much to think about. K & H are creative passionate writers. They have an endgame planned for us, and I hope it’s spectacular! Like you, I believe they have given us many hints in these 4 years. Thank you for giving us your take on Regina and Snow. It’s lovely and extremely well thought out.
Thank you so much Cinders…you are very kind. I’m not sure that many people read my posts but one thing I am sure of…I am sure I love this show! I love the way these writers weave their stories. My conclusions may not always be correct but I do not have any doubt the clue trails are there and they are there purposefully. So many things…colors, symbols, words…and more words…phrases, costumes, lighting, literature, film, pop culture, music, art, furnishings, wallpaper, dirt, laundry, maids, food, beverages, even poptarts! lol! I could go on and on. Not only are the clues brilliantly woven into the fabric of the show but they lead to multiple conclusions…which I can only describe as beautiful and gifted writing. These writers compose the text and we interpret the text. We attempt to find their story path. They tell their story in a literal way, a hinting way, a way that leads to searching and a way embedded with secrets. For me this is true…PaRaDiSe!
adding this: On Sunday we saw Rumple eat Ramen noodles and today is the 105th birthday of Momofuko Ando, who is honored in today’s google doodle. Momofuko’s quote works well for this show…
“Each and every event in the past is connected to the present by invisible threads” ~ Momofuku Ando
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Regina, Cora, and Zelena are def related, because they can each break one another’s blood magic.
Henry being Regina’s father might be more questionable, but Rumple would definitely KNOW if Cora had HIS child (because they had a contract–and we know he can enforce his contracts even if he’s frozen and imprisoned by squid ink–see 104).
And there’s absolutely no reason to doubt that Eva & Leo are Snow’s parents, or that they came to love each other very mu
Perhaps Zelena can break Regina’s blood magic or perhaps Zelena cannot break the blood lock so she sent the flying monkey out to collect Regina’s blood and used it to open the vault. She did that exact thing with Rumple. She cut him with the blade so that she could use his blood to open the blood lock on his safe.
Rumple is not Regina’s father. I do believe he was involved in baby Regina’s relocation. When viewers first saw the following scene from We Are Both, many believed that Rumple would end up being Regina’s father. The writers quickly let everyone know that he was not her father. So, why did he know her as a baby? Everyone assumes that Cora is her birthmother. What is it that Rumple does??? He procures babies for people. Why is he not sure if he can help Regina? Why does he answer possibly? He needed the daughter of Cora to cast the curse. I think he wasn’t sure if an adopted daughter/ or adopted niece would work. He says right out…no…he did not know her from Cora. And he ends with the words, “hard to believe you’re from the same family.”
Regina: Rumpleshtil- Rumpleshtilshin, I summon thee.
Rumplestiltskin: That’s not how you say it, dearie. But then, you didn’t have to say anything.
Regina: What are you?
Rumplestiltskin: What, what, what. My, my. What a rude question. I am not a ‘what’.
Regina: I’m sorry. I… I don’t really know what I’m doing.
Rumplestiltskin: That much is clear. Allow me to introduce myself – Rumplestiltskin.
Regina: And I’m-
Rumplestiltskin: Regina. I know.
Regina: You do?
Rumplestiltskin: But of course.
Regina: Because of my mother, Cora. You taught her?
Rumplestiltskin: My legend precedes me.
Regina: People say I look like her when she was younger.
Rumplestiltskin: Really? (He takes a closer look at her.) I don’t see it. No, that’s not how I know you.
Regina: Oh? How then?
Rumplestiltskin: I knew you long ago, dearie. It’s been some time, but I knew this day would come. I’ve been waiting forit. And I’m so happy, we’re back where we belong.
Regina: And where’s that?
Rumplestiltskin: Together.
Rumplestiltskin: Oh, yes. I know everything about you, my dear. I held you in my arms. You were younger. More… Portable. There is much history between your family and me. History both in the past, and in the future.
Regina: Then, can you help me?
Rumplestiltskin: Possibly, yes. You seek power. The death of your enemies… The death of your friends?
Regina: No! I don’t want to hurt anyone.
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First let me say thank you guys for entering into the discussion. I realize the theory is way off the beaten track and I appreciate the opportunity to share some of my observations.
Eva made a big deal about giving Leopold “a pure child”, she wouldn’t have gone messing around with someone else and risk being thrown out like Cora was.
You are right about that, Eva did make a big deal about giving Leopold a pure child. I believe a pure child was born and that pure child was Regina. Young Eva was not good. She was self-centered, sarcastic…a destructive young woman who after outing Cora’s pregnancy and destroying her relationship with Prince Leopold had the audacity to actually trip Cora and publicly humiliate her when she encountered the miller’s daughter at Prince Henry’s castle. She reminds me of Regina before Regina began her journey to the light side.
What began to change Regina’s heart? We have been told it was when she adopted Henry. She had a hole in her heart and loving Henry began to change her before Emma ever came to town. I think it is very possible that Princess Eva could have ironically found herself in the very same situation that Cora found herself. She could have found herself pregnant with another man’s child while engaged to Prince Leopold. It could have been the loss of this child that left a hole in her heart and getting baby Snow (who I believe we will find out was thought to be the child of a peasant) changed her completely. She transformed into the mother that Snow knew
Regina – The Pure
Regina – The Lost BabyIn addition to Eva’s comment about giving Leopold a pure child the word pure is used in eight episodes
We first hear the word pure in The Price of Gold. Rumple and Cinderella are discussing the wand…is it pure magic…pure evil. This discussion comes right before Cinderella signs the contract tricking her into giving away her firstborn.
In The Heart is a Lonely Hunter, we get a definition of pure…it is “Not Selfish and Self-Serving.” We have had instances of Regina purity… not being selfish or self-serving. Regina was willing to sacrifice herself to save the town when Owen and Tamara enacted the failsafe and she was not selfish or self-serving when she sent Emma to New York with Henry and she gave Emma good memories where she would have never given Henry away.
In A Land Without Magic we learn a little more about the word pure. Mary Margaret is reading from the book, “A pulse of pure love shuddered out and engulfed the land, waking up Snow White and bringing light to the darkness.
We saw a pulse of pure love when Regina kissed Henry and broke the second curse.
In The Queen is Dead we hear more about pure but it comes from an unreliable source. Cora, masquerading as the Blue Fairy tells Snow White that fairy magic is the purest magic of all.
The context of this conversation directly involves Cora, Eva and Cora’s hatred of Eva for exposing her pregnancy to Prince Leopold (which we learn about in Bleeding Through.) Cora wants to destroy Eva and her legacy. Cora hates Eva for destroying her engagement with Prince Leopold. Cora poisons Eva and not only wants to destroy Eva but also Eva’s legacy which includes her descendants. I believe this is why Ghost/Spirit Cora attacked Regina in the episode, Bleeding Through.
Bleeding Through has my favorite scene from the entire four years of OUaT. When that door pops open and we see Young Ghost/Spirit Cora sitting at the spinning wheel, Regina steps in front of Snow, places her hand protectively in front of Snow and her unborn child and then Regina says to Snow…
“Your mother was nothing like my mother. She only understands power and weakness. But if she wants to kill you, SHE’S GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH ME! This isn’t about you. This is about HER and ME.”
This was a moment of pure love…in this moment Regina was ready to die for Snow.
In The Miller’s Daughter, David is trying to talk Mary Margaret out of killing Cora…not giving into vengeance. David tells Mary Margaret that she has the purest heart of anyone he has ever known and that is who she is and that is who she will stay. We know that Mary Margaret does use the candle on Cora and that her heart does not stay pure, thus the dark spot in it.
Evil is not born…it is made. Regina was born with the lightest of magic. Regina was pure.
In A Curious Thing we hear the word pure more than any other episode. We hear it four times. We also experience a great moment of irony. Here is the dialogue.
Rumples Sing Song Riddle
Snow White: How do we find her?
Rumple: Through the door, step inside, if pure of heart, then she won’t hide. (giggles)Queen Regina: We’re at the edge of the Dark Forest, trying to find the one person who can stop our imminent doom and save your unborn child. And you two stop to smell the roses?
Snow White: Snowbells.
Queen Regina: I don’t care if they are dancing daffodils. I need to destroy my sister. And so do you. (walks on the other two following close behind) And if that babbling mad man sent us on a wild goose chase, I swear I’ll- (Amidst the path there’s standing a door) What’s that supposed to be?
Prince Charming: Well, it appears to be a door. (Prince Charming carefully approaches the door. He’s able to see that the path continues beyond it)
Snow White: Through the door step inside. If pure of heart, then she won’t hide. It’s Rumple’s riddle. It’s Glinda. (steps through the door and vanishes.)
Prince Charming: Snow! (follows Snow White through the door)
Queen Regina: (scoffs) A portal with a cheap cloaking spell. (Stepping through the door as well, Queen Regina enters the path beyond the door. Realizing that she’s not allowed to use the portal, she briskly walks back and closes the door behind her.) …sound of cricketsThe implication is clear…Regina does not have a pure heart therefore she cannot enter. But there is more.
Glinda: But,only a purveyor of the strongest light magic will be able to accomplish such defeat.
Snow White: Light magic?
Glinda: Magic created from love.
Snow White: (in realization) Emma. Our daughter. She’s the product of true love. She’s the savior.
Glinda: If she is as pure and powerful as you say, then yes. She – and only she – can defeat Zelena.
Of course we later see that the pure and powerful one, the purveyor of the strongest light magic that defeats Zelena is not Emma but rather it is Regina. Regina is the pure and powerful one.In the episode, Kansas, Zelena enters the room right after Snow gives birth and indicates the baby she has just stolen is pure.
Zelena: What a charming family. It’s a shame I have to break it up.
Zelena, looking at the baby she has just stolen: So pure and so innocent. And now… mine.The next time we see Zelena she holding the baby she just stole and she is humming the song, “Hush Little Baby,” a song which among other things is about Mamma buying the baby a looking glass…and if that looking glass gets broke…
One of the pivotal moments of Regina’s turn to darkness was when she thrust Cora through the looking glass, shattering it into a million pieces. What was it Rumple said about Cora’s name…it sounds like something breaking. I believe, just like baby Neal, Regina was taken away from her mother (Eva) and given to her aunt, adoptive mother, Cora who masqueraded has her birth mother.
The last use to date, of the word pure, is the episode, Fall.
Blackbeard to Anna (again, an unreliable voice): Oh, well, perhaps they didn’t know that the Wishing Star can only be used by those with… Pure hearts.
If the qualification for being a child of Eva is being a baby that is pure, then I think a strong case can be made that Regina fits the bill.
Also Cora would’ve wanted to get pregnant by Henry just to secure her place in the line of succession and since Cora did her own interpretation of lion king with Regina, I think it is safe to say that Regina is Cora’s.
I totally agree…Cora absolutely would want to get pregnant by Henry but we don’t always get what we want. Perhaps Henry could not father children or something else hindered conceiving a child. I think we have a hint to this in some dialogue from two separate conversations that Cora has…one with Fake Prince Jonathan and one with Prince Henry’s father, King Xavier.
Bleeding Through
Fake Prince Jonathan – Well, low and behold, it turned into gold after all.
Cora – How dare you. You must have the brain the size of a pixie to show your face in this kingdom.
Fake Prince Jonathan – Well, I had to see for myself if the commoner who said yes to Prince Leopold was the same one who said it to me Several times In one night. It was quite impressive.
Cora – In two days, I will be a princess, and you will bow down and count yourself lucky to pull the weeds at my feet.
Fake Prince Jonathan – [Chuckles] Been practicing in front of the mirror, eh? You’re as much of a fraud as I ever was.
Cora – My love for Prince Leopold is true, as is his for me.
Fake Prince Jonathan – But does he know how much of you there is to love? Or were you hoping to keep our baby a secret?The phrase “how much of you there is to love” is referring to her pregnancy.
Now, listen to this conversation with King Xavier.
(Cora enters one of the castle’s towers and finds King Xavier winding the strands of gold onto spools. This seems to be a purposeful reference Sing a Song of Sixpence)
Cora: They told me I’d find you counting your treasure.
King Xavier: Well, you’ve made us a rich kingdom again. How can I help you?
Cora: I don’t love your son.
King Xavier: I didn’t expect you to. Not much there to love, frankly.
It is an interesting play on words…does he know how “much of you there is to love” and there’s “not much there to love”. The first is referring to a pregnancy by a potent man it is possible the second paralells this and is referring to the absence of a pregnancy by an impotent man. Perhaps that is why they were having difficulty marrying him off. Again, it is possible that Henry is the father with Eva but I also think it is very likely that the man who got Eva pregnant was Fake Prince Jonathan. We know very little about him. We have been told that Zelena was powerful because she was the product of the darkest of magic. Perhaps old Fake Jonathan can even shapeshift and he tricked Eva. Anyway…I think old Prince Jonny went around sowing his apple seeds in lots of places. Eva…so much like Eve and perhaps she took some fruit from old Fake Prince Jonny Appleseed’s tree.
As RG said, it’s not possible timeline wise. We now know for definite that Snow was 10 in Stable boy. Regina would’ve been between 18- early 20s at that time. For Regina to be Snow’s mother, she would’ve had to be pregnant with Snow at 12 or under and that’s just wrong.
We do know that Snow was 10…no doubt about that at all. That is the same age Henry was when he first met Emma, who ironically is the same age as her mother…28 years old. So, exactally 28 years after giving birth to Emma, Mary Margaret’s age clock begins ticking again and she starts to age.
This means that in the Enchanted Forest, Snow was 28 years old when she gave birth to Emma. When you look at pregnant Snow in the pilot episode I don’t think she looks any older than Regina does in The Stable Boy, yet, we know that Snow is 28 because right after giving birth she is transported to Storybrooke and frozen in time. When time begins ticking again, exactaly 28 years later, she is the same age as her daughter.
If Enchanted Forest Snow can give birth at 28 I think it is reasonable that Regina very well could have been 28 in The Stable Boy and like Emma, could have been 18 when she gave birth to Snow. Henry is 10 when he first meets unmarried, 28 year old Emma. Snow is 10 when she first meets unmarried, 28 year old Regina.
Regina is not that old in Stable boy, early 20s at most. Back in the olden days, women were married young hence Cora’s “old maid” comment.
Again…Snow was 28 when she gave birth to Emma so I very much believe it is possible that Regina could have been 28 in The Stable Boy and could have given birth at 18 to Snow, thus making Snow 10 when she met 28 year old Regina, just like 10 year old Henry meeting 28 year old Emma.
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