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  • November 16, 2015 at 10:53 pm in reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire #312724
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    Scripts are up, so I’m just going to post this little exchange here:

    Hook: But all that changed when I met you.
    Emma: What are they now?
    Hook: A reminder. That all sins can be forgiven when someone loves you.

    I had expected him to say something like “because they are a reminder of what I could revert back to” or something like that. But no… So not only did he keep trophies, but even after he became a “good guy” he hung on to them because he’s essentially saying that if Emma (the, *cough cough* savior) loves him, he’s absolved of all his past evil deeds. Right, I’m sure the families of the people he randomly killed would feel all warm and fuzzy at the thought of Emma and Hook buying a house in suburbia.

    Anyway, this is probably the most perverse reinterpretation of the concept of grace I have heard in a long time. Even if we ignore the overt Judeo-Christian overtones of this exchange, it makes for offensive writing even from a secular, generally ‘humanist’ perspective. It’s essentially suggesting that the only thing that’s keeping him from reverting back to the “dark side” is that he managed to “snag” Emma, and it’s boosting his sense of self-worth. I just can’t with this character.

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    November 16, 2015 at 10:36 pm in reply to: What are you reading now? #312721
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    I read romance and cozy mysteries.

    And for an intersection of the two — Kerry Greenwood’s Phryne Fisher series are fabulous, and have a fantastic TV adaptation (Miss Phryne Fisher’s Murder Mysteries) that’s on Netflix. If you like your main heroines snarky, sassy, and competent, look no further =)

    November 16, 2015 at 10:18 pm in reply to: Do they care about their LGBT fans? #312720
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    Sense8 has two of the most beautiful, well thought out, heartfelt, loving, committed relationships in recent memory. And both of them are LGBT.

    Oh my goodness, yes!!! And actually, because of its general premise, it’s an incredibly gender-queer show more broadly.

    And for a sci-fi show, it’s also not afraid to tackle complicated and sensitive social topics, like race, class, politics (both macro and micro), and does so with grace and intelligence, without ever sacrificing its “character driven” focus.

     

    Also, Orphan Black.

    thought they were more progressive and innovative, in season 1, but that was a mistake, they are not

    I don’t know if this is the experience of other people on this forum, but I find myself still watching OUAT out of a misguided sense of a now 5 year investment in the promise of Season 1. The biggest problem for me is that OUAT won’t just give up and admit to what it really is by now — trashy chewing gum for the brain. And there’s totally a place for that sort of thing in one’s viewing ‘diet.’ But A&E are constantly making these claims to how they’re tackling complex, yet universal issues. They are not.

    November 16, 2015 at 7:01 pm in reply to: Do they care about their LGBT fans? #312695
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    Dude, no, they don’t. I think the Big Mouse cares about money, and money only. If the LGBT community can boycott the network, then yes, maybe they’ll think about changing something, but chances are, they’ll just call it an acceptable loss.

    OUAT is one of the more reactionary, conservative shows out there that claims to be “edgy” I guess because it has female leads. I don’t know, I don’t think that’s enough in 2015 to be counted as “progressive.”  They are as normative as they get.

    Have you watched Lost Girl?

    November 16, 2015 at 6:51 pm in reply to: 5×08 “BIRTH” FAVORITE & LEAST FAVORITE MOMENTS and DIALOGUE #312690
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    I think I would have actually liked this episode if I had started to watch OUAT in Season 5, and only knew about the previous seasons from reading the summaries on Wikipedia. Or better yet, if I had someone summarize those summaries to me. As a standalone episode, it’s not bad. But because it completely throws out much of the mythos OUAT had established up until now, it felt like a hot mess.

    Liked:

    David Anders was hilarious. Completely in character for Blaine from iZombie, and not even trying to reprise Dr Whale. Serves OUAT right for relegating him to forgotten character island. And since he’s now a central character on a much fresher (and arguably smarter) show, it’s OUAT’s loss.

    Again, Zelena is really shining this season.

    Regina, and her dialogues with Emma. I’m coming over to the SQ side 🙂

    Rumple  and Belle cameo. The crossbow was hilarious. Also, Rumple as the voice of wisdom is actually sort of delightful.

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    Squid Ink. No, really, squid ink? Well, at least it’s not the mushroom of doom.

    Everything that essentially tossed out all previously established cosmology, which was pretty much most of the episode. There can be more than one DO? You can resist a dagger’s command? What?

    The DO has to somehow be “aware” that they are the DO to hear voices or have powers? You could not be aware of the fact that you are the DO? I’m sorry, that’s ridiculous.

    Why is Hook qualitatively different from all other DOs? I have trouble buying that it’s because he’s created in a different way — Merlin’s magic is from the HG, which means that its corrupted version should be the same as the original corrupted version that affected Nimue.

    And the one that really takes the cake for me — you can put all the darkness into a person, and then kill that person, and that kills the darkness? I thought magic cannot be destroyed? Haven’t we established with Rumple last season that if the host dies, the DO still remains in some capacity and can still animate what’s at that point a corpse? Or something? Or did we now go back to Cora’s explanation that it’ll dissipate? And why, exactly, did “tethering” Hook to the sword produce a second DO curse? Why didn’t Merlin become the DO when he got tethered to the sword? All of this was very handwavy and unsatisfying.

    Either way, this feels like sloppy worldbuilding, and that’s starting to affect the quality of this show in a major way.

    Emma was Ok with letting Neal die, but no price is too high to save Hook? Ok, then. But just to be clear, this is a guy who keeps trophies from his victims, right? And mind you, now that he’s on team hero and has repented, the mementos aren’t there to remind him of how he’s done bad things /erred — no, they are there to remind him that all can be forgiven.

    Has OUAT drunkenly stumbled into Dexter territory this season?

     

     

     

     

    November 16, 2015 at 1:56 am in reply to: Mr. and Mrs. Dark One #312622
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    Ok, this is a bit of a ridiculous question and has to do with the fact that I was distracted while watching this (husband, toddler, cat, work tomorrow — you know the drill). But does this multiplication of Dark Ones mean that any of the DOs we saw in Emma”s hallucination  could be contemporaries? You know — Sam the DO decides he can’t live without his sweetheart Nancy, Nancy the DO decides that she really needs cousin Bob to be there for her, cousin  Bob … You get the picture.

    November 15, 2015 at 10:35 pm in reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire #312563
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    My current theory is that Adam and Eddy were kidnapped at the end of S3A and the show has been written by monkeys since.
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    Flying ones. With typewriters. And Jane no longer writes either — just observes the monkeys and takes notes.

    O_o

    November 15, 2015 at 10:03 pm in reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire #312537
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    Ok, I don’t have the mental or emotional capacity to write a coherent commentary on this thing we just watched… But the only explanation that makes sense to me is that Henry faked breaking the pen back in Season 4, and in fact sold it on Ebay.

    November 15, 2015 at 8:47 pm in reply to: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire #312526
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    all these alternatives have too many outfits and not enough man jewelry to be considered adequate partners for Emma. Now if we could add a bit of bling to the jar of mayo, then we’d be talking.

    *sigh*

     

    November 15, 2015 at 7:58 pm in reply to: ET Online 11/13 – Adventures and What's Ahead for Your Fav Character Pairings #312525
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    and when did Merlin even GET that mansion?! Wasn’t he living/working out of his Tower; the tower that is still standing in Camelot?

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    The mansion is the cross-dintensional manifestation of Merlin’s tower?

    As to the hat… It looks a bit like Orion’s Belt charm from Men in Black.  So if it ever shows up again, it just might turn out to be a portal. Maybe they’ll need to reach the Underworld.

    Not sure about the ring. I also think it’s more of a luck bending ring — or maybe not magical at all, but something that its owner believes to be magical.

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