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So I started running through other residents of SB to see who else is available, and for 5 seconds I shipped WoodenBeauty (because the writer and the girl who adores books).But then I decided that Belle should leave town. If Rumple dies, she inherits his wealth, and uses that money to go and travel around the world, exploring all the things, seeing all the places, learning about all the people and cultures. Even not having Rumple, that would be a happy ending for her, because it’s what she’s always dreamed of, even before Rumple was in her life. His (death) proving her the resources to make her dream come true would keep him as part of her happiness even though he’s not there with her.
I like this. And in fact, how about a combination? August, after all, did a lot of traveling, so how about they go off and travel the world together, but not as romantic partners, but as travel buddies and friends. And if a romance develops, well, we’re not privy to it, and it’s none of our business 🙂 — curtain drawn, left to the audience’s imagination. For OUAT, that would be *shudder* #BoldStorytelling
[adrotate group="5"]Here is another possible explanation for the dagger being empty. Rumple gets redacted. Notice how the Author’s little notecards took immediate effect on Cruella. Say, for whatever reason, whether at Rumple’s request, Belle’s, or someone else’s, the Author (whoever he is) writes “Rumplestilskin is not the Dark One.” At that point Rumple turns human and probably immediately disintegrates into dust as time finally catches up with him. But the curse of DO is not lifted — instead what is created is the paradox of the nameless dagger which essentially causes some kind of cosmic cataclysm which Emma must prevent by sacrificing herself. Just a theory.
Well maybe it’s Emma’s blood. Lily’s dark blood and Emma’s light blood. That’s rather poetic in and of itself. (if highly disturbing at the same time)
Poetic, yes. But logically complicated — if Lily is now the receptacle of Emma’s original darkness, and Emma’s blood is used to react with it, then it suggests that goodness can only exist after darkness has been subtracted out, and therefore cannot exist on its own.
A hair from Henry’s head? After all, he’s the product of both dark and light magic. Or maybe a hair from baby Neal’s head, since he’s an innocent and a product of the truest of true love.
Hmm. That’s rather grim, but not impossible. Henry is also the Truest Believer, so maybe that counts for something. (Speaking of which, if Henry is the next Author, I wonder if Authors are maybe chosen based on this particular trait).
If it’s Baby Neal, lets hope he’s one of those babies that has hair 😉 And that’s just grim, but then again, considering Rumple’s current Evil (TM) (language) status, I wouldn’t be surprised if the writers went there, or somewhere like it.
You gotta love Regina and her way of greeting new people into town!!! Though…what would she need with Emma’s portion of darkness???
Because Regina is really Rumple in a magical disguise. He needs Emma’s darkness to change fate so that Isaac can write the villains their happy endings.
That’s a very strong and plausible theory….I’ll jump on that bandwagon!
Yup. That definitely looks like Lana Parrilla impersonating Robert Carlyle impersonating Rumplestiltskin 🙂 I’ll get on the bandwagon too. That “Well… you do have some darkness in you” line is a dead ringer for Rumple.
The blood looks like it reacted with some other ingredient in the ink well. Any theories as to what it is? True love potion? Tears of the innocent? Eye of newt?
My guess is that it needs to be something “light”-related, such that the magic of the quill/storytelling draws on both light and darkness to manifest the stories as reality.
There is this trend that runs through OUAT that in order for a couple to be interesting or “hot” or worthy of A and E’s time it must have some sort of inequality as far as morals, ethics, past, deed and actions go.
Well, at least one of the partners doesn’t sparkle 😉 Seriously though, of course A&E are going to simply reproduce the typical trope that crops up throughout the last couple of centuries of Western literature, culture etc. Cue the Brontes, Jane Austin and other classics. Heck, cue Nabokov if you want to go really problematic. Or, more recently, and with a lot less sophistication, cue Twilight and the whole vampire kick of the last couple of decades.
We (lets call it “Western popular culture”) have been obsessed with romanticizing (to use the neutral term for the sake of appropriateness) power differentials. If you’re going to write a romantic subplot, it’s simply the point of least energy expenditure.
*I guess it’s my turn to climb down from the soapbox*
ep. Rumple, who sacrificed himself to save Belle and Baelfire is the new boogeyman, while Hook (aka Killy Will Poo), is the patron saint of all that is holy
Just for the record, that Killy Will Poo line of yours still makes me irrationally happy.
In fact, Hook (and Regina it seems) are now so in tune with their inner light that they’re teaching EMMA, TRUE LOVE INCARNATE, all about being good and doing the right thing.
This! How far we’ve come from S1 Emma kissing Henry on the forehead, simultaneously embracing and giving up on her chance at motherhood, and thereby breaking the curse. What a bloody sad state of affairs.
I do think they’re setting Rumple up to be the next big bad.
(Sorry for abbreviating the citation). While I like your headcanon, and I would love it for you to be right, I think (and sorry for the cynicism) it gives the writers too much credence. In other words, your response exemplified the truly uplifting capacity of OUAT’s fanbase to read the show’s writing generously, to creatively reframe the narrative shortcuts, and to complicate simplistic characterizations. And don’t get me wrong — Rumbelle had enormous potential, both in its early writing, and through the sheer talent and subtle chemistry of RC and EDR. And yet, I tend to agree with @RG here. The writers are already at the “big bad” phase, and this show does NOT have a good track record of dealing with the exact kind of subtle, psychological, twisty little issues you are laying out. To use an overblown illustration, you’re aiming at Crime and Punishment, and they’re going with 50 Shades of Gray.
If people come back wrong, then whatever is left of original Rumpel wouldn’t want that for Bae. He might be trying instead to be worthy of going where he thinks Bae is now.
Yes, I think that’s an interesting theory. Though as I said, I don’t think this is intended by the writers — or at least, there’s no evidence. (By comparison, say, Joss Whedon “overhauled” his characters very explicitly, and quite smartly. For example, Buffy gets a complete overhaul, but that’s woven into the narrative drama of the latter seasons, and therefore feels logical). I’m using the distinction as a heuristic to understand what happened to Rumbelle, and why the basic “archetype” of the relationship, and hence its anticipated arc, did a 180.
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All this! Actually, “inexplicably bored” with Belle (and then Neal) is spot on — and I think increasingly bored with Rumple, which shows up in Bobby’s seemingly grumpy acting lately. However, if you think about it, it’s all about how the writers seem to relate to the male characters (and as they wrote the relationships, the POVS almost inevitably shifted away from the women).
Hook and Emma is actually structurally similar to Rumbelle. It’s about the love of a good woman redeeming (potentially) the bad guy. And it looks like now it’s going to be (even more problematically) Hook saving Emma the “lost woman” from her inner darkness. Except lets face it, Captain “Personality” makes for a better wish fulfillment character than Rumple. He’s older, he’s a coward, he doesn’t wear guyliner… But I think the bottom line is that what we’re seeing is the writers’ likes and dislikes — plot twists seem, to me, increasingly motivated by these personal tastes. So for example, I have the distinct feeling, with all that’s been happening, that they don’t actually like Robin, though I’m not sure why not.
This is a bit of an “out there” cinematic reference, but there’s a French comedy from the 1970s called Le Magnifique, about a writer of over the top spy thrillers, who is essentially increasingly frustrated with his idealized, overly competent character and throws more and more “plot nasties” at him, just to take him down a notch 🙂 Not a perfect parallel, but my point is that I can’t shake the feeling that what we’re seeing is the writers’ wish fulfillment romp. The fact that writing has gotten so unbelievably un-self-reflexive just makes it worse.
#BoldStorytelling But you’re right. Bae was the light. Which is why Rumple doing *none of this* to at least try and get Bae back (you know, his happy ending) makes no sense. Ok, I’ll get off my little soap box.
I like your soapbox. It outsources my irritation with what they did to one of my favorite characters.
I think he used his dealmaking to help control not only the cost of his magic to himself but also his darker impulses. As long as he had Baelfire to keep him human, it was effective. Without his son, even with Belle left to love, there’s not been enough to keep it in check.
I think that’s right. At the same time, lets not forget that this is a very conscious decisions on the part of the writers. It’s not like there were no other ways of exploring Rumple’s predicament, and I personally think there might have been other interesting stories to tell about the struggle with something like the DO curse that would have felt more organic to the character. Heck, make him human, and see how he handles it. Or, at the very least, humanize him more, rather than tossing all the scenes that might show character development during the editing phase. Seriously, Rumple going the Voldemort route is that awful combination of evil and boring.
Could someone please put #BoldStorytelling in a burlap sack and toss it in the river? }:-)
