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September 12, 2014 at 6:14 pm in reply to: 9/12/14: Adam & Eddy Give Details On Elsa, S4A Villain Revealed, Outlaw Queen! #282158
obisgirl
ParticipantThe last bit sounds like Will and Ana broke up.
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ParticipantThat would probably be the Swan family. That would be a nice parallel too between Emma and Elsa. Elsa had her ice power when she was younger and became frightened about possibly not being able to control it. Depending on how young we see Emma, it could be the same situation where she has no idea how to control her power.
obisgirl
ParticipantI remember hearing a popular theory that Emma’s magic possibly manifested when she was younger, possibly with her first foster family and if that’s the case, it makes sense now why they would give her back.
obisgirl
ParticipantStunning ABC 🙂 I hope there’s more coming of the rest of the cast.
obisgirl
ParticipantFascinating post RG 🙂
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ParticipantThe lovely @DianeJReed will be interviewing #OnceUponATime series creators Adam Horowitz and Eddy Kitsis on the 9/22. Send in your questions
— Once Upon A Fan (@OnceUponAFan) September 11, 2014
https://twitter.com/dianejreed/status/510399841319784448
If you have any questions, tweet her about it.
obisgirl
ParticipantMy question is, should the show, being fiction, take the time to actually show the characters growing into a proper relationship over time and trials or just have it be a bit more accelerated?
Older fairytale Disney movies don’t really go into the development of the relationship before true love’s kiss. Â I mean, I barely remember the original Snow White movie but I’m fairly sure that Snow White and Prince Charming did not know each other before true love’s kiss happened at the end.
Nowadays, you think, well, how can that version of true love’s kiss even be real when you don’t know the other person? Â Plus, it seems ridiculous now that we’ve been exposed to the prequel and epilogue of the story.
I like that Once in most cases the show takes time to develop the relationship before we get to the happily ever after. Â It gives the relationship a strong foundation I think. Â We were shown that Snow and Charming were true love from the pilot but over the course of season one, we saw through flashbacks how they got to that place. Â How the relationship is developed on the show, in my opinion should never be rushed. Â Adam and Eddy have to give a plausible foundation for why these characters work well together as friends, partners to eventual true love. Â If the relationship were rushed like in the original Disney movies, that would not be satisfying to me anymore because it could be viewed as “lazy writing.” You’re not taking the time to build the foundation of the relationship.
I know Outlaw Queen is criticized for being too rushed but I really don’t view it that way at all. Â Because they had a history together before they were even together! Regina know that he was meant for her a long time ago in the Enchanted Forest but chickened out and didn’t meet him them because of her own fears and insecurities. Â They had a relationship of sorts in the EF during the lost year; while they did not like each other at a glance, there was an attraction. And yes for the sake of the fact there were only 11 episodes remaining in the season, Â things did need to be sped up for story purposes. Â But I’m okay with that. Â I would rather watch what we got for Outlaw Queen than Regina keeping her distance from him for the bulk of the season and not do anything. That might be interesting for awhile but ultimately, seeing someone wallow in their own grief on a TV show can get annoying (I watch soap operas and see this all the time and I just roll my eyes whenever it happens).
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ParticipantI would love it if Once delved more into friendship love and actually took the time to develop and maintain friendships. Â Ruby and Belle were friends for about two episodes before that just…went away altogether once she lost her memory. Â I like Regina and Tink’s friendship and I wish, really wish Rose were still on Once because I think she could really use some good girlfriend advice next season. Â But Regina will likely have to go through the heartache of lost love on her own. Â I don’t know how she would feel towards Snow or if Regina would even accept Snow’s comfort.
Friends seem to come and go and that’s sad because before you have a romantic relationship, it’s that of a friend. Â I liked that Ruby and David were friends and had more of a big brother/sister friendship which is very rare on TV nowadays.
obisgirl
ParticipantI’ve never met anyone who flat out hates Snowing, but it seems that most of us find them annoying, to put it one way. They represent a kind of perfect love that is unattainable because it’s so unrealistic. And in other mediums, the kind of love Snowing exhibit might be borderline stalkerish and unhealthy!
For Example: who am I talking about in this example: a man and a woman who can’t live without each other; who, when one of them is absent for any given period of time, experience is an actual physical pain associated with not having your other half around; that everything must be done together or not at all?
Am I describing Snowing or am I describing Bella Swan and Edward Cullen from Twilight? One is held up as the quintessential true love while the other has become a meme of how not to love (Still a better love story than Twilight, anyone?)
I never thought of that parallel before and I can’t stand Twilight. But it makes sense.
obisgirl
ParticipantOn the whole, I think each couple on Once is meant to represent a different aspect of love in some way and sometimes these cross over. Like one of those little circle diagrams- I forget what they are called.
They’re called Venn Diagrams.
Snowing represents the loved up, can’t live without each other aspect Rumbelle represents the loving someone even their flaws aspect SwanFire represents the innocent first love aspect. OutlawQueen represents the love after death aspect CaptainSwan represents the second chance aspect.
I agree.
I think the message of Once in regards to love and romance is that there is no perfect relationship. Most fairytales end with “and they lived happily ever after” (usually as the characters get married). Once shows that even these “happily ever after” relationships have their ups and downs. For example, RumBelle fight and sometimes Rumple screws up big time, but they still love each other deeply.
I absolutely agree.
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