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So everyone has social security numbers in SB, because they magically appeared within the US System.
Absolute conjecture on your part. There has never been any proof whatsoever that anyone in SB has a SS# that would be recognizable to the United States Government. The Curse did not affect the outside world. The US government does not know of SB, Maine. They have never filed for federal taxes, they do not vote in public elections.
So Storybrooke is a magically created town that in the eyes of the law, is a real town.
SB is real in the sense that it exists for the people living in it. Legally, to the United States of America this town does not exist and has never existed.
I agree.
There’s also this bit from Saving Henry when Regina went to adopt Henry.
Adoption Agent: (Takes off glasses) I’ve never heard of Storybrooke.
Regina: Oh, it’s a hidden gem. Peaceful. Perfect for children. It’s like a fairy tale. You should come visit sometime.I just want to reiterate one point: none of this matters. Henry and Henry’s opinion matter more than who has “legal” or “magical” or “the most right” to him. Henry wants to be with both his mothers and the town and the family are situated in way that makes this incredibly workable. And that’s what this needs to be about: what is best for Henry and his emotional and developmental well being.
I agree with this too.
[adrotate group="5"]I’m still not sure about that theory. I think what happened is that Elsa and Anna’s parents sought out help from the Snow Queen. Or maybe the Snow Queen’s Anna and Elsa’s aunt.
I mean, if we get separate casting for Anna and Elsa’s mother, then yeah, she and EM’s character cannot be the same person.
I’ve just thought of something, Hook knows that Neal sent Emma to jail. She mentioned it to him after Neal’s funeral. But whether she told her parents, I’ve know idea. Seems strange it hasn’t come out though. Surely they must have wondered why Emma was so resistant to getting back with Neal.
The below is from Lightening Round 10:
Will Snow and Charming (Josh Dallas) find out about Neal (Michael Raymond-James) sending Emma to jail?
Horowitz: Neal sending Emma to jail comes up again and is dealt with.…which at the time, sounded like Snow and Charming would find out, either from Emma or Neal about what he did. And this was for season three, but Snow and Charming never found out. But Emma did tell Henry in her amnesia state. I think what this means now, is that Emma giving birth to Henry would come up again and it did because Regina gave her new memories.
Yep, totally agree with POM.
JMo, A&E also said Emma’s “I love you” to Neal, was said to someone she thought she’d never see again & in that situation, where things are happening & someones dying you say things you’d never ordinarily say.Yup, and I think it would be inappropriate if Emma cried the reverse to Neal in that situation too, that she hated him for abandoning her. It goes back to that general feeling, when someone close you is about to die, you don’t want them to leave this world with a bad feeling, but a positive one. It’s why Emma called her parents “mom” and “dad” in 2×22.
But I think it also makes it clear, when she tells Hook that she loves him, it needs not be in a high stress situation. The first ‘I love you’ needs to come out naturally in order for it to have an emotional impact, not something forced. I think that’s really important.
I agree @priceofmagic 🙂
Whilst I agree that Neal shouldn’t have been moping incessantly over someone who just used him for their own ends, a little bit of reaction from him would’ve been nice since Tamara was the woman he had chosen to potentially spend the rest of his life with.
I get where you’re coming from. I re-watched Quiet Minds tonight and Neal’s reaction was to laugh about the situation while comparing notes with Emma about their ex’es. And thinking about Tamara’s betrayal, it’s like, why are you laughing? I get Tamara was evil and all, I understand that but Neal wanted to marry her and genuinely loved her. Heck, he even believed her over Emma. As soon as Emma says that she loves him, it becomes Tamara who?
I mean, I know we talked about this in the CSF thread (which thankfully does not exist anymore) but to me, when you’re really serious about marrying someone, you’re serious about it and Neal was. Even a tiny reflection about that betrayal would have been nice (minus the laughing).
Anyway, I thought that post was beautifully written and it even made me go back and add some new stuff to my true love meta. And I had some thoughts about True Love’s kiss this coming season.
I think we might have two. Not two Captain Swan true love kisses, but maybe the first true love’s kiss will be between Outlaw Queen in 4A and then in 4B, Captain Swan. A Captain Swan True Love’s kiss in 4A still feels too soon for me. Okay and here’s my reasoning for why it’s broken down that way. I think since we’re getting the Frozen arc for 4A, the frozen heart will probably come into play then. I think what will happen with Regina is that during a confrontation, something will happen to Marian and Regina will get in the way and get struck by ice; instead of being responsible for Marian dying, she’ll have saved her and Robin won’t want Regina to die so they kiss, which is TLK, unfreezes her heart and that’s it.
With Captain Swan, Everyone in Emma’s family has been under the sleeping curse. Snow, Charming, Henry…I feel it’s only appropriate that Emma or Hook get cursed that way too. I used to think (before Neal died), if Hook got cursed, then Emma would need to kiss him in order to prove it’s true love. But actually, the way true love’s kiss works, I don’t think it really matters who gets cursed. There’s no more obstacle blocking there that might put doubt in the viewer’s mind of who Emma’s true love. But if I were to pick who gets put under a sleeping curse, I would pick Hook. If it was Emma, you’d need to come up with a reason why it couldn’t be Henry who couldn’t use TLK to wake her.
I hope that makes sense.
OMG, you all need to read this meta by NerdyGirlNotes about Captain Swan and Finding Love Again and the important of First Love. It’s so beautiful.
I saw this phrase earlier to day & thought yes, yes that is correct when you apply it to CS lol “I dont ship CS, I Titanic CS” lol
Hmmm. That doesn’t necessarily sound like a good thing, considering what happened to that particular ship! Haha.
Holy crabby paddies, batman! I totally didnt connect these together until I saw it in the link obisgirl linked to …
I mean I knew Neal had moved on & that Killy hadnt- but I hadnt connected them in this way before! I feel a fool for totally missing it on my radar lol. Well caught!And remember True Loves can’t move on from each other. Neal moved on and Emma realized in Neverland that she wanted to move on from Neal, so to me, that says that they weren’t true loves. And yeah, Hook was not able to move on from Emma after parting ways with her in Going Home; even though he didn’t think there was a likelihood that he would be able to see her again. He still remained loyal to her memory.
I’m a little confused about that…in what context did we find that out? And does that still apply if one half of a TL couple is dead? It would be so much easier to figure this stuff out if there were more curses to be broken!
Snow said to Charming if he died, she would not be able to move on. And we have seen in the past, that true loves can’t move on from each other. Regina truly loved Daniel (not her verified true love) but she did truly love him and could not move on from his death.
Okay, I think this snippet from the season 4 summary makes a lot of sense now:
Henry is very happy to have both of his mothers back in Storybrooke. But with biological mom Emma and paternal grandfather Rumplestiltskin’s blood running through his veins, he will be tested by both the light and the darkness.
I think it’s interesting that we might see Regina struggle between staying good or going evil and, maybe since Henry will be working in Gold’s shop, there’s a potential for him to learn magic as well. He could be tempted by Dark Magic (happened with Pan), but I think ultimately, he’ll choose light because that’s who Henry is. And Regina wants to be someone worthy of her son’s love and by extension, Robin as well.
