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Honestly, I feel like we should take a moratorium on this thread for awhile until we have more to go him. Because right now, I feel like it’s only going around in circles and this is page three.
[adrotate group="5"]I think this makes it official…
Well, @fred_diblasio I think this says it all… Signed, #MrsDiBlasio đź’‹ pic.twitter.com/FKuA0ICUIp
— Lana Parrilla (@LanaParrilla) August 1, 2014
The closest thing I’ve found as far as Daniel and Regina as True Love is Mark Isham’s soundtrack for the second season, which is music from The Stable Boy and it is called Regina’s True Love. Elsewhere? I haven’t really found anything that conclusively puts Daniel as Regina’s True Love.
And yet, I think there’s also a distinction to be made between true love and truly loving someone. There could be overlap between the two but I don’t think one equals the other either. I think you can truly love someone but that said someone may not be your true love. (Regina is a good example of this. I have no doubt that she truly loved Daniel but when I researched Stable Queen as True Love, it was nearly impossible to find something concrete that labeled them as true love).
Also, you have to remember, Adam and Eddy write Once season to season. So it really should not be surprising that ideas and stories change. I don’t think Adam and Eddy had an idea to make Robin Hood Regina’s soulmate until they had writer’s summer camp when everyone came together to map out season three.
If there can be a non-romantic true love, why can’t the idea of a soulmate exist as well?
No one is saying that it cant exist. Of course it exists. But they are trying to make an either/or distinction and that is…odd.
Okay, now I’m confused. Personally, this had been something I’ve been curious about since the concept of soulmates were introduced in the beginning of 3a, so it makes me happy to have some kind of definition for it now. Could it have been better? Oh yes.
But I’m not upset that we got it. It’s a miracle we got a definition altogether.
I don’t think it’s odd that there’s a distinction between the two, primarily because I think I was expecting that there is some kind if difference to begin with.
What would make me upset is if we never know the difference at all. And I think other people would feel the same way too.
Knowing that Killian was brought as a gentleman and a lieutenant, I wouldn’t be surprised if he showed up at Emma’s apartment with flowers. Â I’m counting on it. Â I think she’ll find that her definition of dating and his definition are worlds apart. Â I can see him being more courtly in the way he approaches Emma and that’s not something she’s used to. Â So I can see why it might scare her at first.
but A&E didn’t say that one expression or occurrence or form of love (soulmate) is better or more sincere or important or superior or whatever than the other (true love).
YESS!! Â They did not say this guys.
I got the exact wording on the first page and they did not say one is more powerful than the other.
but I don’t think that they were unprepared. They probably have discussed the question in the writers room, but there is no ultimate answer to it, it’s work in progress. It is part of the show to reflect on such questions like what is love, how does it show, what does it mean, where does it take us. It is part of the show to explore different ideas, views, options, and not to give us some read-made meal to gulp down unchewed (frozen dinner, also known as TV dinner, funny).
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We read into the show based on our own views and experiences, and it is not always the task of the writers, to give answers to all our questions. Some want it black and white, clear cut, definite, cast in stone, but fiction is IMO reflection and not definition. Furthermore: Why can’t it be accepted, that there could be a variety of form and intensity and expression of love, but none is less valuable than the other (if insisting on making a difference between soulmate and true love)? And relationships are in flux, some more, some less.
That’s my view too. Â Yes, true love was the primary love since the beginning but it doesn’t mean it’s the only type of love there is out there. Â Romantic true love didn’t break Regina’s curse in season one, it was Emma kissing Henry’s forehead and admitting that she loved him. If there can be a non-romantic true love, why can’t the idea of a soulmate exist as well?
Here’s what Adam and Eddy said:
Eddy Kitsis: “True-Love is when you truly love somebody. A soul-mate is when you think there’s only one person for you. And I think on our show we’ve learned that happy endings aren’t always what you expect. And so even if you love somebody and that doesn’t work out, it’s okay to love again.”
Adam Horowitz: “I think with both true-loves and soul-mates, these are things that are in flux. You can work at them, you can find them,..There is always hope for finding what you think is your true-love or soul-mate.” [x]So, ok, this can be broken down a bit.  We’ve actually seen True Loves behave the same way as Adam and Eddy describe soulmates.
Snowing is a perfect example. Â Yes, they truly love each other but there’s no one else for them except each other. The only person for Snow is Charming and the only person for Snow is Charming. Â If you were to consider what we know of Snowing, then you could also classify them as soulmates as well as true love and one true love.
I don’t think the idea of concepts lessons the power of true love. Â It’s just a different kind of love and this show delves into DIFFERENT kinds of love. Â We not only have romantic true love, but familial love, friendship love — all kinds of love. Â Soulmates just adds an extra layer of love.
Hope that Snowing example helped.
Perhaps a soulmate is a kind of relationship that just exists between two people, like a parent and child or a brother and sister…and it doesn’t equate to instant, guaranteed True Love the same way blood relationships don’t; it just increases the odds and ease of developing True Love. Surely Emma and Henry didn’t have True Love as soon as they met despite having a clear blood relationship; they had to develop it. …but we know for sure that Regina and Henry have parent-child True Love even without the blood tie. Maybe that also means that two people can romantically fall in True Love even if they aren’t soulmates
Yes, I agree.
Also remember guys, Adam and Eddy said these two ideas are in flux; which means it’s still changing and evolving. It’s a very good discussion here about the two but things can or might still change in season four.
Colin believes that Emma is Hook’s soulmate.
Given Adam and Eddy’s definition, it means that Hook believes that Emma is the only person for him and I think we’ve seen that on the show.
In the lost year, he turned down the bar wench his crew hired to give him a good night. He remained loyal to Emma even though he didn’t think there was a possibility he could or might see her again. And he would continue to love Emma even if Emma didn’t return his feelings. He loves people he cares immensely for even if the other person doesn’t immideatly return those feelings.
Adam and Eddy’s definition doesn’t really change anything. Was that the only place where that question was asked? I still need to watch or listen to the other interviews.
I agree with you again @jenna_b 🙂 Plus, as Adam and Eddy said ‘true love’ and ‘soulmates’ they’re still in flux, which means ever changing and evolving. I think we’re going to see next season, at least with Outlaw Queen that these two ideas will eventually merge and collide in a big way.
I mean, you can call Snowing ‘soulmates’ since their only love (romantically) is for each other. It doesn’t really change anything, IMO. I still think you can have a familial true love and a romantic true love and they’re both true love. If that proves right with Captain Swan or Outlaw Queen, who knows but as soon as one of them happens, it happens.
I also think there is a blurry distinction between true love and truly loving someone. Â I think you can truly someone but that other person is not your true love. Â Regina truly loved Daniel, I seriously have no doubt of that but he was never referenced as her true love. Â (I know, I researched and researched and the closest thing I got was Mark Isham’s soundtrack).
Over all, everything blends together when it comes to love, especially in its various forms and I love that. Â It makes the show more worldly and — it is awesome and good fodder for my true love meta. Not going to lie about that but it is.
