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I never want Rumbelle back together (though gods know I don’t want Will/Ana broken up) and if Rumple dies, for real, at the end of this season, I won’t shed a tear (whereas I cried for like an entire day at the end of 311). I don’t see him ever coming back from this arc in a believable way.
I feel the same way too.
The writers could whitewash and hand wave with book changes or fate changes or some sort of sacrifice, but what would honestly be enough to make us–and the characters–move past what Rumple has done this year?
I’m don’t think Rumple can be redeemed at al at this point. I don’t think one sacrificial act would save him either. He’s just done so much damage and there’s plenty more coming.
[adrotate group="5"]The awesome thing I really appreciate about Robert Carlyle when it comes to his interviews, it’s how brutally honest he often is about Rumple’s motivations for what he does.
“He’s actually addicted to magic, he’s addicted to the power. That has been his life for hundreds of years, even before he met her. And it’s still — even after he had met her, it’s still the thing that drives him, so even though he loves her, and he does no doubt, he loves her more than anything, he just can’t let that go. That’s his Achilles heel, you know, that addiction to power. He has trouble moving on to another life.”
When Rumple’s actions boil down to in 4A is one thing: Rumple is addicted to magic. He wanted to separate himself from the dagger and oh, look, there’s this added bonus that he gets to keep his magic. He was power hungry. Everything he did in 4A for himself.
4B is still a wait a see but underneath wanting Belle back, he still wants his power too. I think his happy ending is having both Belle and his magic. I would be shocked if it’s an “either or scenario.” He wants both.
In which, he has learned nothing from the winter finale.
Rumple is not the hero of 4B. He’s the villain. He’s the ring leader of the Queens of Darkness. He’s working against the heroes to get what he wants. Which is exactly what he did in 4A with the Shattered Sight spell. He had zero interest in saving the town, only about saving himself, Henry and Belle and then, doing some magic memory erase to make both Belle and Henry believe that he tried to save everyone but failed.
I get it. I used to be a Rumple stan to but there’s very few things I find redeemable about him nowadays, primarily because everything he does, he’s doing for himself. It’s not for the people he cares about.
And here’s Emma ASKING him to use the hat, desperate to escape her power.
I have to strongly disagree here. Emma asked to him to help remove her power; not, please put me in this hat! That is not what she asked. Rumple manipulated the situation and Emma’s emotions to make her go into the hat.
Remember that scene where Rumple gloated to Ingrid, ‘Hey, you know what? I’m going to kill Emma!” Of all the people to warn Emma about Rumple planned for her, Ingrid, was the one to do it.
Mind you, Keb, it did not even phase Rumple when Neal’s name was mentioned. Because all he cared about, at that point was powering up the hat. He didn’t care if it was Emma; it just happened to work out perfectly in his favor that he could use Emma’s desperation to get what he wanted. Remember, Rumple is a master manipulator. He will manipulate the situation when it suited him and Emma desperate to get rid of her powers while he was in the process of charging up the hat, that was too good of an opportunity for him to pass up.
It’ll be interesting when this episode premieres, if we get how long Hook has been in Neverland at this point? Is it year one or has been five years?
I don’t think so. Peter Pan is supposed to be set in Victorian London. I think even Adam tweeted something along those lines.
@Punk_Bunny_87 yes
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) June 9, 2013
Bae went to Real World Victorian London.
And then I just checked wikipedia and the date Eddy gave, is so very pre-Victorian.
Victorian era is from 1837 until 1901.
The writers are never going to be historians, but at least they’re trying.
I think the date makes sense. Even though historically, it doesn’t.
“Regina has a dream that spooks her,” she says. “It’s like her subconscious is trying to tell her something. It’s almost like she has a premonition in a dream. She wakes up and instinctively feels like something is wrong and she’s worried about Robin Hood. You’ll see her taking the next step to make sure he’s safe, and if not, what’s going on and what needs to be done to help him.”
And I tweeted this speculation earlier today:
@fluffyjmo That's my thought too. It's not real. None of it. Dream, magic or an illusion. Robin is not really there.
— obisgirl (@_obisgirl) March 20, 2015
That’s the second sneak peek. It’s a dream sequence.
