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@astrawoid wrote:
So if Bae fell through the portal for 100-150 years, why didn’t that happen to anyone else? It seems like Hook immediately ended up in NL and when Hook and Cora traveled by bean, they came to Storybrooke right away as well.
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Time is linear on this show. We know from Welcome to Storybrooke, that was 1983. Add 28 years to that, present day is 2011.
I don’t know how the years would have worked in fairytale land but I took 2011 – 150 = 1861. Which I can’t remember exactly when Peter Pan was supposed to take place, but I think it roughly would have been around that time. I’d like to know how old Neal is supposed to be because we know when Bae goes through the portal, he’s 14 but we also don’t know how long he was in Neverland for before coming back to our world.
I hope that makes sense.
[adrotate group="5"]Okay, now that I have finally watched the episode, here are my thoughts:
The beach scene — I said before that I thought it would have a break-up vibe to it and it kind of did. But if it weren’t the craziness of the events of Manhattan and after with the introduction of Tamara, Emma and Neal probably would have that conversation a lot sooner. But I’m glad that they did because like Henry said in earlier episodes to Jefferson, not knowing is the worst. So, I’m glad Emma got that closure. And closure, is how I would sum up that scene.
On the green portal scene, there was a nice gif setI saw on tumblr with some thoughtful remarks at the bottom, which I think should give us all hope for the future.
Once again Emma did what she thought she had to do to get him to stay. The girl who’s lost everyone, she gives what she thinks people give to people they want to stay. “I love you”, three words that mean forever to so many people, that mean staying, that mean not being alone. But they don’t mean that. Sometimes “I love you” is the same as “Goodbye”.
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I think that nicely sums up my feelings on that scene.
I like Baelfire too, he’s a great kid but honestly, I hate the way he’s been so patronizing and belittling Emma this season since he came to Storybrooke with his fiance, whom we all know, is 😈 👿 . I understand that when we hear bad stuff about the people we love, you have the tendency to believe the opposite because you don’t want to think ill will about someone you love. I get that part.
We’ve seen Neal do nothing but smirk and belittle and call into question Emma’s most fundamental beliefs about herself. He has no real idea who she is now. He still thinks of her as that scared trusting 18 year old he knew. And Emma – who has been shown as a character who takes shit from NO ONE – just….lets him. You can see it when she looks at him. After that initial burst of anger, she’s been fairly passive in their interactions. She regresses as person. How is that healthy? How does that make her better?
After reading that whole post, and you guys really should, tell me how Emma going back to Neal is going to help with her character growth? It won’t. If anything, Emma would probably regress and that would be heart-breaking. She needs to learn to trust again before she can love and going back to the guy who broke her heart, will not help. Hell, I wouldn’t even encourage my own kid to do that if I had one. But she can start trusting Hook, maybe even become friends with him and then, if something romantic happens later — that would be icing on the cake.
But going back to Neal would not be a healthy character development for Emma.
I just remember when Colin and Jen were filming scenes for this week’s finale, it crashed tumblr for a few hours. 😆 😆 Thus, that event gave birth to “colin o’pocalypse” 😆 😆 And Colin even tweeted his fans, asking what it was.
I’m not really worried. There has to be some good stuff coming.
OMG, you guys need to read this tumblr post. It talks about CS and Emma’s character growth.
All very insightful points thelonebamf. Once again, beautifully written 😥
Everything was excellent as usual. 😀 I like your distinction between “needing” and “wanting,” and I agree with your analysis.
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
Thanks Obisgirl for addressing this!
You’re welcome 😀
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
The OUAT fandom is a family and it usually feels like a pretty darn good one. Right now it feels like we’re all in Kindergarten.
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You know, I wanted to say that in the initial post but Thank you for saying it.
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
To each their own, enjoy the moments that give you something to root for whomever you chose (and whatever pairing you chose), just don’t dance around on everybody else’s toes. Celebrate the stuff you love. Don’t celebrate others not getting what they want.
“We must agree to disagree without being disagreeable.” – One of the things I love about this fandom, and these forums especially, is the discussions that we have about every angle of the show. We can try til we’re blue in the face to convince people to like what we like but at the end of the day, we’re a bunch of passionate fans analyzing a show we love, and all rooting for different outcomes. That’s what a fandom is and it’s usually a fun thing to be a part of. Let’s keep it that way.
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@obisgirl wrote:
If there’s teleportation involved, I’d use that to travel instead of paying for a plane ticket.
Nevermind the price, 12 hour flights are absolute killers, and that is why I’d be all about teleportation. Either that or I’d whip myself up a private jet with a king sized bed in it so I could travel in comfort.
Exactly. I want to go to San Diego Comic Con one day but airfare from VA to CA – OMG! 😮 😯 Teleportation would help A LOT there.
A private jet would be nice too, but again with the wait time. 😆
