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obisgirl
ParticipantThere are so many ways they could have played the Regina/Robin/Marian situation that would not make Robin look like such a douche bag.
1. Robin chooses Marian because of his vows, but she sees how much he loves and pines for Regina so “releases” him even though he would’ve stayed with her out of duty. (Basically what we got minus Marian being frozen and the OQ stuff in between).
2. Robin chooses Regina and Marian forbids him from ever seeing Roland because of Regina
then gets frozen. Regina and Robin then decide to try and unfreeze Marian because it is the right thing to do despite it being easier to leave Marian frozen and carry on their lives. Marian then accepts Regina and everyone is happy.3. Robin chooses Marian because of vows then gets frozen so Marian and Regina have to work together to save him during which Marian and Regina discuss their past, Marian forgives Regina and realizes how much OQ love each other so gives her blessing. She and Robin then work out custody arrangements for Roland.
4.Robin chooses Regina then gets frozen so Marian and Regina have to work together to save him during which Marian and Regina discuss their past, Marian forgives Regina so realizes how much OQ love each other so gives her blessing.She and Robin then work out custody arrangements for Roland.
5. Robin chooses Regina but explains that he needs to explain things to Marian so he goes with Marian temporarily but with the explicit intention of being with Regina because he chooses her. Marian then gets frozen, Robin and Regina then have lots of UST because he doesn’t want to “betray” Marian aka have sex with Regina until he has officially ended it with Marian.
You really thought through those. I’m impressed.
Basically have Robin make a decision and stick to it.
This! And most everything you post.
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ParticipantI agree Watcher. That’s what I mean when I say Robin’s rarely made a decision, simply react to what happens. This is mostly what I find problematic about his character. Robin started to address the situation in the premiere but that obviously did not last because Regina ran off.
But yes, I totally agree he needs to sit Marian down and explain to her that he doesn’t love her anymore but Regina. I don’t think Marian would be upset. She talked with Regina in Granny’s diner and told her flat out, I don’t want to be Robin’s second choice but his heart leads to you, I’ll step out of the way.
I don’t understand why they can’t sit down and talk about this like adults? It’s not like Marian wouldn’t understand. I think the conversation with Regina in the winter finale in the diner says clearly that Marian gets it.
Ping-pong match indeed. Lol.
I think, besides the pixie dust, I think most of us would like a reasonable explanation from Adam and Eddy for why Robin and Regina are perfect for each other. I can list reasons why in my head why but that’s not canon. That’s fanon and fanon and canon are two different things.
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Participant‘The Words’ music video by Christina Perri premiered a few minutes ago.
Colin’s naked and in a tub at one point. I just sat in front my Mac, giggling and smiling. Colin doesn’t say much but he looks sexy throughout.
obisgirl
ParticipantSo the Captain Swan love song, ‘The Words’ the video premiered a few minutes ago.
Colin’s naked and in a tub at one point. I just sat in front my Mac, giggling and smiling. Colin doesn’t say much but he looks sexy throughout.
obisgirl
ParticipantBravo again @priceofmagic for your responses.
obisgirl
Participant4. OutlawQueen was not an affair… Ok….Lana Parrilla gave the best explanation that Evil Regals are celebrating her for. OutlawQueen was not an affair because Marian was dead.
When Marian was dead -yes – it was not an affair but what Regina and Robin did in the crypt — that was an affair. Robin and Marian are still technically married. He made vows to her. Cheating on your spouse is the definition of an affair, especially when that person is alive. You can’t glorify an affair. I’m sorry but no, Robin went back on his word and cheated on his wife.
obisgirl
ParticipantSounds like a flashback.
obisgirl
ParticipantI agree with most of what you said @priceofmagic!

I think the bottom line here @wickedregal, you can root for a character but pointing out their flaws and the evil things that they’ve done is not a bad thing. I love my babies but I am in no way blind to the horrible or bad things that they’ve done. If I’m not happy about something they’ve done, I’m not going to hold back on it.
As a writer myself, I strongly believe in character development. I get more upset watching a really bad movie where characters don’t evolve at all by the last act. Regina has evolved, true but the things that she’s done in the past shouldn’t be overlooked as well.
obisgirl
ParticipantNobody talks to each other. The characters say words to each other but nobody ever TALKS. I watch Grimm, too, and that is a show with action, plot and yet they talk to each other. There is still subterfuge and plotting, but at least there are heartfelt moments.
I agree. I don’t watch Grimm but Heroes, I watched. That was an action drama, almost every season but characters still took the time to talk to each other about their problems. I think a balance between talking and action can exist on Once, the problem now is that A&E get so wrapped up in the story for 11 episodes that talking is a rare thing. Belle and Rumple had Family Business and that moment in the shop but after that, no mention of it again because the story focused on what was going on with the Snow Queen.
Too many of Rumbelle’s and other character’s interactions on the show happen “off screen”. That needs to stop and my biggest gripe about the show. …It’s long past time that Rumple’s curse needs broken. Flat out, no cleaving (stop cringing RG) or trying to maintain power but a true break of the curse. I can really see no true future for them without the curse being broken.
I agree with this too.
obisgirl
ParticipantI know you don’t like to address the evil things Regina has done because she’s your favorite @wickedregal but she did do a lot of evil things back in the day.
(Remember we had that discussion not to ignore the reason why Regina needs a redemption arc? It’s because she was a villain at the start of the show).
In the original timeline, she killed Marian. She killed a bunch of other people too and Rumple did not always force her hand.
I would just like it for the show to just once actually address some of the things Regina has done. She admitted to Robin that she made mistakes but when it comes to admitting them to other people, she just won’t do that (Snow and Henry bring the exception).
Even when Tink tried to encourage her not to mess up again in 3A, Regina threw it back on her face.
Regina killing Marian originally is the giant the room Adam and Eddy don’t want to talk about and I find that really disappointing. (For the sake of the story and Regina’s progress, it has to be ignored though). And that’s what is mostly what I find frustrating about her character arc sometimes.
I’m not talking about other couples. Because that is not what I addressed in my original post.
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