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She was probably seen and treated like a monster. She felt as though she was unloved and that was it.
I agree.
[adrotate group="5"]In my opinion, A&E aren’t making Rumbelle look bad or get even by having Belle messing up but they are trying to show us that no one is black or white, light or dark, good or bad, we are all grey and when pushed into a corner, most people do things they later regret. Belle has been very forgiving in the past and maybe now it’s finally time for Rumple to forgive her.
I agree. I think Rumple knows that Belle wouldn’t abuse the power of the dagger or use it unless it was in a desperate situation, like in the teaser above.
I’m thinking whatever this storyline is, it’s also less to do with keeping count of you did this and now, I’m going to do this to you. Because that’s not how rumbelle works. I do think the truth about the dagger is very likely to come out next episode and stuff is going to hit the fan. I expect Belle to be flaming furious with Rumple.
The fact that the Snow Queen is yet another member of Emma and Henry’s family is also highly unoriginal.
To be fair, most of the villains before the Snow Queen were tied directly to Regina or Rumple. Pan was Rumple’s father, Zelena was Regina’s sister. Therefore, Pan was Rumple’s villain and Zelena was Regina’s villain. Neither were directly connected to Emma, which the Snow Queen is. Because she played a part in Emma’s childhood.
That being said, it does feel a bit repetitive that Adam and Eddy are playing ‘I don’t feel loved’ card again. But it doesn’t surprise me either. This show is about family and it’s also about love too.
I think what we’re lacking is context. What mistake did Belle make a long time ago? Obviously, Belle must’ve regained some sort of memory or discovered something about her own past with the Snow Queen that involves her mother, and she’s feeling extremely guilty. Now Belle needs Rumple’s magic to fix whatever mistake she made.
Maybe Belle won’t tell Rumple because she feels what she did is shameful and it would only cause Rumple to lose esteem for her. Little does she know Rumple is covering up a big dark secret of his own that involves the Snow Queen. Hence his refusal to let Belle anywhere near her. He’s concerned about Belle’s safety but also about being caught in a massive web of lies. Now he’s playing the guilt card on her, “I gave it to you because I trusted you.” Baloney, Rumple! You don’t get to preach to your wife about trust when you broke her trust the minute you proposed. *Ugh*
That’s what I think too.
The way I think of Tallahassee then and now, is still the same. The purpose of the flashback was not show us, Neal as a potential love interest for Emma in the present but to show us what went wrong in that past relationship, how the fault affects her in the present and why a future with Neal now if they were reunited (which they were later) probably was not in the cards. But also to show us the contrast of these two different men.
There’s Hook, who’s loyal, honest (mostly) and in most respects, quite the opposite of Neal. Basically, Hook was introduced to show us the type of man Emma needs now; someone who loves her unconditionally, puts her first above everything else, values her strengths and her person (there’s another word I was trying to think of here). Hook does all these things and more for Emma, whereas Neal for the most part of season two, behaved the opposite with Emma.
We’ve heard and seen that true loves can’t move on from each other.
Emma closed herself off to love, clinging to that past she had with Neal and meanwhile, he met someone new and moved on with his life; when the implication was when he asked for the postcard from August was that he would drop whatever he’s doing and go after Emma with the intention of reuniting with her. Except that’s not what happened. And that was something Emma was aware of after reuniting with Neal in Manhattan, that Neal knew about the curse and didn’t come back for her. How do you think that made Emma feel that the one person she loved didn’t come back for her when it mattered? It hurt. It’s like JMo said, it made her question his feelings for her.
And however you look at the Echo Caves scene, the way we see it generally is that Emma wanted to move on from Neal. How else are you supposed to interpret Emma wishing that Neal was dead?
I don’t think Emma’s ever questioned Hook’s feelings for her because he’s always been upfront about his feeling about her. He’s not afraid to show her how he feels and flirted with her every chance he got in 3B. And that’s what Emma needs, constant reassurance that Hook’s feelings are never going to change and hopefully, with time, she’ll realize that she is safe with emotionally and doesn’t have to afraid to hide herself from him. I think this is something that Emma is still learning.
Her sharing the box with him in last week’s episode, all of those items represented a part of her childhood, some good and some bad. She could have refused to show him but she chose to let him see that part of her that likely very few have seen. It’s a small scene but it has huge implications about Emma growing as a person and learning to trust him with parts of her that she still hides.
Thats why I’m wondering- how do you guys think Emma will find out about Hook’s deal with Rumple? How will she react. Let’s play CSeers.
After last episode I’m not sure. Emma seems to be reacting different towards people who lie to her/ not tell her the truth right away- Regina example. I see it as a possible setting for her future reaction to Hooks dealings with Rumple and I am honestly a little lost here. Will she go all angsty on him or not? I just watched the new sneak peek for this Sunday’s episode where Belle desperately wants Rumple to come with her and confront the Snow Queen. Based on that sneak peek, (which if it’s just her and Rumple going after the Snow Queen and Hook’s doing something, most likely Belle will find out through the confrontation that the dagger she has is not the real one. Therefore, any of the fallout, will be primarily between Rumple and Belle.
I would love it if Hook comes clean to Emma before the dagger reveal but he might not for fear Rumple could hurt Emma. I know a lot of SF fans are seeing Hook lying to Emma about the dagger as something that’ll cause their break-up, but I don’t think it will. I think Emma will understand that Hook did not have any malicious intent behind it and the only one who’s most at fault is Rumple. If Emma’s angry, I think that’ll be a natural reaction but I don’t think she’d leave him over it.
Belle might leave Rumple though once the truth comes to light though and she would be within her right to, I think. I think I expect a bigger fallout between Rumple and Belle over the dagger than Hook and Emma. Just because this isn’t the first time Rumple’s lied to Belle or twisted the truth to suit his needs, except this time, Rumple used Belle as his alibi for murder. He said he trusted her and yet, refused to give her his actual dagger and decided to go rogue and keep it from her. To me, that’s a bigger crime than Hook’s. I have so many issues with Rumple at this point and it’s only going to get worse as the first half goes along.
Just saw the new sneak peek. I like one of the tag lines from the original article:
The honeymoon period is over, folks.
No kidding. Belle’s going to find out real quick that’s a fake dagger and Rumple’s been lying to her. Stuff is going to hit the fan.
I finally watched the episode last night and my Captain Swan meta is here. There’s also a shout out to the first page of this thread. Yeah, I’m talking about you guys.
And my thoughts on the Swan Queen element in the episode. < I apologize if there’s some stuff that’s not understandable since I started writing it out on iphone last night past midnight and didn’t finish until 2 in the morning.
https://twitter.com/joshdallas/status/527656568935170048
This is for 4×10 I believe. And it looks like that they’re at the town line.
