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onceaholic
ParticipantShe could be heading to Vancouver for any number of reasons but fingers crossed that she will be playing teen Snow.
[adrotate group="5"]Keeper of Regina's bravery
November 17, 2015 at 11:28 pm in reply to: 5×08 “BIRTH” FAVORITE & LEAST FAVORITE MOMENTS and DIALOGUE #312789onceaholic
ParticipantRegina, and her dialogues with Emma. I’m coming over to the SQ side
Up until now, I never really understood why people thought that SwanQueen was endgame. Especially as it would be inappropriate given that
1) Regina is Emma’s step-grandmother
2)Regina tried to kill Emma as a baby (which still hasn’t been addressed!).
3) The writers keep on shoving Captain Swan and Outlaw Queen in our faces.
Now I get it.
Honestly, it was as if Emma doesn’t want to move in with Hook because she is attracted to Regina and has stronger feelings for her than she has for Hook, but doesn’t want to say. lol. This baiting is just too much.
Keeper of Regina's bravery
November 17, 2015 at 9:29 pm in reply to: 5×08 “BIRTH” FAVORITE & LEAST FAVORITE MOMENTS and DIALOGUE #312786onceaholic
ParticipantLIKED
All scenes with Regina, though they were brief.
Another cute baby.
Zelena.
DISLIKED
Hook as the Dark One despite not displaying any of Emma’ symptoms. I am having a hard time believing that not knowing/not remembering=no symptoms, especially regarding the voices.
EDIT:
I forgot to add….
Could anyone explain to me
1) why black goo came out of Merlin, who is supposed to be only about light magic?
2) why waving excalibur over Hook turned him another DO, even though Excalibur is supposed to represent the weapon that can kill the darkness? (or does it kill the light, too? can’t remember).
TIA
Keeper of Regina's bravery
onceaholic
ParticipantSeeing as this show is full of plotholes I am not holding back anymore with crackpot theories that may or may not make sense.
Maybe Merlin has now been sucked into Exalibur or is now actually Excalibur. And linking Merlin and Hook together keeps the both of them alive but dependent on each other (well, Merlin alive as the sword), especially Hook being dependent on Merlin seeing as Hook was already dead or very close to it when he became a DO (Maybe Merlin is still kinda alive inside the sword?). Hook is also likely dependent on Emma as well, now that the dagger (with Emma’s name on it) and excalibur are physically connected.
As for Merlin now being excalibur, there could be any number of reasons why, some of which may be derived some new magical rule that we previously knew nothing about. Maybe
-Arthur wanted full control of Merlin
-Emma wanted to protect Hook from Merlin
…for example.
However, if this happens:
Even if Merlin is dead in the present day (which he probably is), there is now a handy bag of McGuffin water that lets a person commune with the Dead (a la Merida and her dad).
Fergus also told Merida not to waste the rest of it, implying that she still has some left.
…then we will know for sure he is dead.
Keeper of Regina's bravery
onceaholic
ParticipantSo if Hook is the dark one – Why hasn’t he shown any magic? – Why hasn’t his skin changed? – Why hasn’t Hook been seeing all the past dark ones in his head? – Why did Emma say that everyone failed her and that caused her to be dark when becoming dark was her own choice in saving Killian? – Is Merlin dead now? Did Emma transfer his immortality into Hook or what was that about?
PLOT HOLE PLOT HOLE PLOT HOLE AND ER PLOT HOLE.
Deep sigh.
I never would have guessed this twist. You know why? Because it is a plot hole.
They better explain all of the above in the next episode!
Keeper of Regina's bravery
November 17, 2015 at 8:20 pm in reply to: FAVORITE AND LEAST FAVORITE MOMENTS from this episode 5 x 09 BEAR KING – – – #312777onceaholic
ParticipantNot looking at the other comments, will read them later.
LIKES
Did anyone else notice that in the second episode the blood in the second one (shown after 9pm) was a darker red (more realistic), and that there was actually a (mild) battle scene-possibly OUAT’s first one? ( I don’t count the Snow Queen’s curse, that was far too comical). And that we actually saw a blade go though somone and out the other side (though it was definately his shoulder, not a lethal stab lol). OUAT suddenly became relatively sensible for second!
The witch was funny. What a great actress.
Zelena/Rebecca Mader was great, too.
Other than the above, I didn’t like this episode.
Too much time was spent on advertising Merida. In fact, 95% of the time was spent on Merida while ignoring our mains.
I didn’t like the convenience of the magical bean, and Snow giving Ruby her full blessing to use it for herself and only herself. I really hope that we will get to Tiny again, that he comes to the gang to tell them that he has successfully grown more magical beans.
And…timeline, anyone? I was so confuddled.
Keeper of Regina's bravery
onceaholic
Participantok guys – who else is ticked off by Zelena prancing about in a tight mini dress and high heels with her girlish figure back in tack 5 minutes after having natural childbirth — wtf?? Plot or not – this is insulting to mothers everywhere. And as previously stated, not even a footnote comment about Baby Greenbean? As for names, my vote is for the obvious “a” ending name: Elphaba!!! LOL Doubt they’ll go there though because of rights issues.
This irritated me too.
I guess they did it because the show is on before 9pm. She didn’t sweat much during the birth, either. And it wasn’t particually realsitic for Neal’s birth scene, too.
(Wheras Snow did in the pilot so out the window goes my theory? Then again it was the pilot, so…).
Keeper of Regina's bravery
onceaholic
ParticipantI was more upset that the first thing she did after escaping was Revenge and not going to the girl whom she had just gave birth.
Giving birth to a child doesn’t actually mean one is going to be automatically “into” motherhood. But yes, we are given the impression that Zelena really wants / cares for this kid — so it was rather OOC.
I found this inconsistent, too.
Keeper of Regina's bravery
onceaholic
ParticipantIs the baby magical?
Without a doubt due to her lineage.
What will Robin/Zelena name her?
If it is not something greeny or ending in A as others have previously suggested, we must remember that OUAT have named baby’s inappropriately before (Neal). The most inappropriate name I can think of? Marian.
I’d laugh if it was Morgana. (Ends in A!).
Who should get custody?
Robin with supervised contact for Zelena.
Can motherhood redeem Zelena?
Not sure. She is different to Regina. Regina was an ordinary person who succumbed to darkness *slowly* over time, but not to madness. Zelena however, succumbed to darkness very *quickly*, indicating an already dark nature or a very broken psyche.
So logically, it is not a case of redemption but containment and medication. Knowing this show, however, there is a chance they will go for her redemption,.
Keeper of Regina's bravery
onceaholic
ParticipantI think A&E already confirmed that it is the dark curse and that a great was crushed to cast it.
I don’t pay attention to what these two say anymore.
Keeper of Regina's bravery
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