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onceaholic
ParticipantThe EF is a realm comprised of many kingdoms. Just until its not.
Not really.
Way I see it is, Enchanted Forest is a forest and this requires trees. Agraba and Aurora’s kingdom never had trees and therefore it was never part of a forest…therefore it was never the name of the whole world, right from the beginning. ever since I saw Agraba and Aurora’s kingdom (which ever came first, I can’t remember), I have always thought that EF was a part of that world due to the lack of trees.
Also, again, if you look at the photo of the pilot script, their world is labelled FTL.
…unless you are using ”realm” to mean a single kingdom, or group of kingdoms” rather than a whole world (as per historical definition and dictionary definition), in which case yes, EF would be a large forest spreading through several kingdoms or several realms or a group of kingdoms labelled as a realm, but kingdoms such as Agraba are part of the same world, just not part of the same realm.
Realm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realm
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onceaholic
Participant***Arguments *for* the Enchanted Forest being the name of an area in a world, not the name of the whole world/dimension***:
-The pilot script labels the scene between Rumple and EQ in the dungeons as ”FTL” or Fairy Tale World
-Most official ABC press releases, such as the summaries about what is coming up in the next episode labels this world as FTL
-There seems to be separate kingdoms, and not all of them are covered in trees, for example Agraba, and Aurora’s kingdom. Therefore it is not really logical to say that these kingdoms are part of a forest.
-Sherwood Forest seems to be annexed to EF, rather than an a part of it, due to having a separate name.
-To get to EF from Arendelle (and vice versa), it is a boat ride on ordinary waters. These waters were never shown to be a portal between worlds.
***Evidence for EF and Arendelle being separate continents in the same world***
-Again, the boat ride.
-That EF is labelled ”Mist Haven” by the Arendelle , implying that contact between the two areas is not impossible, but is infrequent.
However, it could be that Arendelle is a peninsula, and the mountains to the north make it hard to access the rest of the land mass that way, so they choose to travel by water instead (like how one might journey to Italy from other parts of southern Europe hundreds of years ago).
Still, they are definitely seem to be separate areas of the same world, and that world is called FTL.
The list is not exhaustive.
I look forward to seeing more more arguments for, and arguments against too. 😉
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onceaholic
ParticipantDay 21- Most Heartbreaking Scene
When Regina had to dissipate Daniel in Season 2. I actually cried.
Look at the desperation, and the cracking of a once strong woman who would rather die than let someone see her this vulnerable and afraid…she’s practically losing her mind and falling apart trying to protect her first love Daniel from another unfortunate death….This is the man she became evil about all in the name of avenging his death! This is NOT the Evil Queen or Mayor Mills…this is just Regina Mills who has reverted back to her teen years, back to that moment where she had to stand there and watch her mother tear out her love’s heart and crush it before her very eyes, and now all she can do is kick, scream, and plead with David to let her talk to her fiancée! This scene was everything!!!
Yes, Lana’s acting in this scene was superb, one of her best scenes, I reckon. I too could see the Young Regina coming back in that scene, and the desperation… it broke my heart.
The townline scene in 3a had me crying too, so this takes second place.
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onceaholic
ParticipantIs it just me or is Lana Parrilla hiding her stomach alot?
I mean, I think she tends to do that but this seems more than normal.
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onceaholic
ParticipantDay 20– Least Favorite Scenel
Season 1: EQ taking Graeme’s heart, threatening him by saying that if he does not do exactly what she wants, she will killing him, then having him dragged to her bed chambers.
I think the worst part of it all is lack of in-show and off-show acknowledgement of what this scene really means.
Season 2: Cora throwing Johanna out of the window, Regina complaining to Henry and telling him her plans to take him back to FTL without everyone else, then wiping his memories.
Season 3: any scene with Peter Pan in it haha.
Season 4: Robin Hood saying he is throwing away his moral code to spend the night with her, and in the crypt no less.
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onceaholic
ParticipantDay 19- Favourite Scene
As others have said, there are too many too choose from, so I am unable to pick out one…
Season 1: Regina and Emma’s fight in the hospital cupboard, Regina killing Graeme (excellent acting all round).
Season 2: Regina dissipating Daniel. Broke my heart…I actually cried.
Season 3: ep 11 on the town line, saying goodbye to each other and Regina zapping the scroll into the curse cloud, and all Regina-baby Henry moments. Seeing everyone move as a camp towards the castle in FTL was wonderful too. So great to see everyone in FTL costume together. Regina and Emma smiling at each other while Regina is in her office with all her equipment trying to figure out how to get everyone’s memories back.
***Also the first kiss between Regina and Robin Hood!****
Season 4: Snow Queen/Ingrid dying. Regina telling Henry that he has is own gifts.
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onceaholic
ParticipantThere is also the theory that Lily (aka Lilith) is the anti-Savior to Emma’s Savior role. If Lily is magical like Emma (as Lily’s star birth mark would suggest), then there could become magical rivals.
This is an interesting idea.
For light to exist there must first be darkness (or the other way round!). I wonder whether for Emma to be created as the savior, there had to be an equal and opposite created, too, and this opposite also needed to be sent to our world somehow.
(Though I think their have been plenty of anti-Saviors already…Peter Pan, Zelena etc).
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onceaholic
ParticipantDay 18- Favourite FTL Outfit:
Everything Regina wears!
But if I had to choose they would be all of her riding clothes (except her war gear):
And if I had to choose one of these, it would be the top one, her crimson riding outfit.
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onceaholic
ParticipantI am disappointed to learn that Agnes is likely playing Lilith. Horrible miscasting and disrespectful of the ethnicity of the child version of the character, whether or not the child actor was chosen to remind of us of Regina.
Last year when I was on a different board, I too had theorized that Lilith was the black fairy or a demon when she first appeared in OUAT…I actually said that maybe Lilith and the Blue Fairy came from the same ball, with Lilith being the dark husk and the the Blue Fairy representing the light (referencing the bible here). In Once, if they don’t do a ball of darkness and light, then I am pretty sure they have the same point of origin, and are maybe sisters/two sides of the same coin.
If not, then maybe she is Blue’s daughter after all, as someone else had said.
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onceaholic
ParticipantDay 17- Favourite Storybrooke Outfit This one of Belle’s. It’s so simple and I like her curly hair.
Yup, Belle has some cute outfits. This one is not my absolute favourite ( can’t find mine) but it is one my favorites.
I also like the blue dress that Regina wore to seduce Charming haha.
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