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A prophecy is a prophecy…no matter how you twist it, OutlawQueen Fate and Emma’s Destiny are all in the same boat as prophecy, and again…can’t favor one over the other, The entire show is about destiny and fate, and OQ’s Prophecy was to unite them with the best person with whom they would be HAPPIEST with. It’s not a bad thing at all to be united with the person that will give you your Happily Ever After….technically, it would make real life super duper splendid if everyone knew who they were meant to be with. Because no matter what their past is, or how they may seem in the present…at least you’re guaranteed a happy future with them.
…and herein lies the problem. The writers cannot come up with a decent reason as to why R and R should be together so they come up with plot-devicey ”fate” and ”pixiedust” and ”soulmates” (a term dropped in 4a, and replaced with ”true love”-probably something to do with that question at that convention).
Soul-mates need to be exactly that. They need to have ton in common. The stuff that isn’t in common needs to complement each other like two pieces of a jigsaw puzzle, or temper the other’s negative traits. What do R and R have in common so far?
-They both have sons.
-They both lost the first (true?) loves
-They are both tenacious and will do what they think is right.
-When they love they love deeply.
-Robin’s patience and confidence in Regina is soothing to her.
And that is about it. This net could cover a lot of people. There needs to be more specific things in common. Also, I think this relationship benefits Regina more than it does Robin, unless he is very satisfied with an attractive piece of tail and nothing much else.
(Robin doesn’t have a dark past, not really. Or at least it pales in comparison to Regina’s, so I don’t really understand how the two are comparable).
The show really needs to tell us why fate and pixie dust has labelled them as soul-mates.
Henry was a horrible brat, Henry’s treatment of Regina was nasty, constantly blowing hot and cold so Regina didn’t know if she was coming or going. Alas, something we both can agree on! 🙂 To be honest…I really wanted for Regina to do what Cookie did to her son for disrespecting her.
No, no he wasn’t. He was putting up healthy boundaries between himself and his extremely borderline personality disorder/BPD mother. His expectations of her were consistent and fair. You both will have to point to specific examples within context, because I don’t know what you mean, I am afraid.
I said it on a different chat room many months ago and I will say it again here (if I haven’t already…). The whole Marian- was-almost-killed-by-Regina-if-it-wasn’t-for-Emma storyline was doomed to fail if the writers kept Marian as a good person. They should have made Marian (who is one of my favorite legendary characters, btw) into a horrible person, an adulter or in league with some nasty villain or even say, Morgana in disguise at the time of her incarceration. In this way, Robin would naturally choose Regina because Regina would have shown growth and improvement whereas Marian wouldn’t have done, and she would have been deceiving Robin whereas Regina has repeatedly reminded Robin that she is/was a monster.
On the same board, I also wrote similar scenarios to these to make Robin Hood look less like a douche bag:
There are so many ways they could have played the Regina/Robin/Marian situation that would not make Robin look like such a douchebag.
1. Robin chooses Marian because of his vows, but she sees how much he loves and pines for Regina so “releases” him even though he would’ve stayed with her out of duty. (Basically what we got minus Marian being frozen and the OQ stuff in between).
2. Robin chooses Regina and Marian forbids him from ever seeing Roland because of Regina then gets frozen. Regina and Robin then decide to try and unfreeze Marian because it is the right thing to do despite it being easier to leave Marian frozen and carry on their lives. Marian then accepts Regina and everyone is happy.
3. Robin chooses Marian because of vows then gets frozen so Marian and Regina have to work together to save him during which Marian and Regina discuss their past, Marian forgives Regina and realises how much OQ love each other so gives her blessing. She and Robin then work out custody arrangements for Roland.
4.Robin chooses Regina then gets frozen so Marian and Regina have to work together to save him during which Marian and Regina discuss their past, Marian forgives Regina so realises how much OQ love each other so gives her blessing.She and Robin then work out custody arrangements for Roland.
5. Robin chooses Regina but explains that he needs to explain things to Marian so he goes with Marian temporarily but with the explicit intention of being with Regina because he chooses her. Marian then gets frozen, Robin and Regina then have lots of UST because he doesn’t want to “betray” Marian aka have sex with Regina until he has officially ended it with Marian.
..but unfortunately I was stomped on.
I don’t want her to end up with a douchebag after all the hard work she has put in to change.For the record, I would like to say that I am a Regina fan. This character and LP are the only reasons why I have stuck with this show. I would like to see Regina redeemed and happy, whatever that looks like. I am not a fan of bad writing, however.
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Well we know the door belonged to the Sorcerer b/c it was made to send the Snow Queen to our world. Why is it there now? No clue. My question is – since you can get to the Enchanted Forest from Arendelle by sea… can’t everyone just use this random portal door to go home if they want to? Why are they staying in Storybrook? Especially now that Rumple is gone…all the villains seem to be trapped in the land without magic… they should just go home.
This is exactly what I want to know!
Anyone who wants to stay in our world can, and anyone who wants to leave also can!
Did the door disappear after Elsa and Anna went through it? I can’t remember. If it did, then they would need to track down the sorcerer and ask if he can make them another door for EF!
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I don’t think Once will go beyond season 5, either.
To get back on topic…
This is an extremely long thread so I was unable to read through everything. If the following questions or points have already been made or addressed I apologise in advance.
-Henry doesn’t seem to have the ability to do magic. Does this mean that Swanfire wasn’t true love? Perhaps not all true love babies have magic…Philora’s baby, Cinderella’s baby. (Why is Emma so special, then? Why is she the savior?).
-I don’t think Emma’s Soul Mate/True Love is captain Hook, nor do I think it was Baelfire. I think he (or she!) is yet to come. Maybe King Arthur or Merlin lol. Emma can have one while Regina can give up on Robin and have the other haha.
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I’d like to be the keeper of -Regina’s light magic -Regina’s bravery if they haven’t already been claimed?
Regina’s light magic is claimed by WickedRegal – Sorry, it wasn’t visible on the list but I have it on my external version and apparently missed transferring over to the forum. She had requested it last spring in the chat room according to my notes. But you are now the keeper of Regina’s bravery.
No problem.
I wonder if @WickedRegal would be willing to be joint keepers. Light magic is hard to contain, after all 😉
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I agree Keb. It’s why I think the 11 episode arcs have had a detrimental effect on Once. Whilst it is nice to have 11 episodes in a row, there isn’t time for the character moments, it’s all plot and shiny things and new villains. Whereas in season 1 and 2, Storybrooke had that small town feel, now it feels like Storybrooke is solely populated by the Charmillstiltskin clan because we so rarely see the other characters now.
This.
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Outlaw Queen: Dark side, Kelly Clarkson.
Rumbelle (current situation): No light, by Florence and the Machine.
Maybe they are obvious choices, but I am going to suggest them anyway.
Love the vid above, made me chuckle 😉
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I really do hope that Regina ends up pregnant. Like we have already said, 6 weeks could be enough time to establisha pregnancy.
However, I would like to throw in another possibility.
Gold has probably been selling off whatever he had on him to survive. Perhaps 6 weeks is the maximum length of time he can survive in our world this way?
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Does Gold have a bank account? I assume he does and can access his money. How did he keep all the money from the rent he collected in SB? In his safe? lol.
Then again, when we saw him ”6 weeks later” he looked dirty and disheveled, like he had been sleeping on the street. Without references, ID or access to a bank account, it would be hard to get a place to rent, and without Neil’s keys (or ID?), it would be hard to take over Neil’s place.
I am with others who have said that he is not surviving well at all, and he is selling off some of the valuable stuff on him to survive.
I hope the show goes into how he is surviving on the other side, I think it would be important to see how the fairy tale characters would cope in our world outside of SB, so that we can see if they are better off in SB, our world outside of SB or back in the worlds from where they came. Not going to hold my breath, though.
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I think it’s going to be a scene between the sorcerer and the apprentice.
I hope so!
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So Marian talked to Regina in the diner about wanting to be chosen, for Robin to choose her but she would be okay if Robin chose Regina and she would step aside. Why didn’t Regina repeat this conversation to Robin? Seems like there could have been a moment before Marian started showing freezing symptoms where this could have been brought up but it never was.
Yes, I would have liked to have seen this.
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