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@PriceofMagic wrote:
Belle was at Rumple’s for several months which is enough time for them to get to know each other and genuinely develop feelings for each other. It could be argued that, as far as Belle knew, Rumple would be the only person she saw for the rest of her life so it was in her best interests to be on good terms with him.
Which is another way Stockholm Syndrome works. Isolation is an important component so pleasing your captor is your primary motivation in life after awhile. It’ll keep you alive. It’s a psychological defense mechanism run amok basically. They were isolated together for months and a random release here or there (even if she believed it could be permanent release) wouldn’t alter that mentality immediately or in any significant way. Thus her still pining over a guy who violently shook her, screamed at her and threw her out who knows how much later with Grumpy. I also feel it oddly weird she remembers who he is, that’s her LAST memory of him, and she’s still instantly declaring her love for him. After 28 years of isolation, I suppose her view could be quite skewed though.
I do believe really the only way for Regina’s imprisonment of Belle to not really just be a holding pattern for her storyline would be for Regina to have spent that time brainwashing her. But it’d have to be subconscious, sleeper type, since Belle didn’t take one look at Rumpel in the finale, recoil in fear and run away, so she hadn’t be conditioned to fear him on sight.
[adrotate group="5"]AliasscapeParticipantWell, if a person believes they truly love someone, how does fairy tale land magic tell the difference? The thing about Stockholm Syndrome is people really do believe they’re in love someone.
This also takes me back to wondering if you can truly love someone you don’t really fully know. How many of Rump’s bad past deeds does Belle know aren’t made-up stories about a “monster”? If she knew those deeds aren’t just past but are still ongoing, as in he’s still actively plotting against all the residents of the Enchanted Forest, then would she truly love him then?
Personally I’m not going to argue they aren’t each others’ true loves, that’s fine if the show wants it to be that way, but I’m more than ready to judge her if she lets that blind her against all Rump’s faults, especially since thus far he hasn’t really changed. Still willing to sacrifice everyone for his own goals. (No matter how family-related those goals may be.) Though I expect we’ll be seeing a more vengeful Rumpel next season.
I just hope Belle tells him “hey I love you and I’ll be here when you get it together but we can’t be with each other while you’re behaving like this.””
AliasscapeParticipantYeah, this doesn’t help me at all. It’s so bright that it’s harder for me to read stuff on it.
Harder for me to look at the forum in general. Gonna need sunglasses for when I come here after midnight. :geek:
AliasscapeParticipantIt’s a money making decision pure and simple. It’s not about winning over fans especially since the target demographic of the dramas, 18-49 year olds, aren’t likely to be indoors at 8pm anyway. (I watch quite the number of summer drama cable programming and not a single one of those shows comes on 8, only 9 or 10. ) If members of the golden demographic didn’t catch Once when stuck inside during cold and snow, the chances that droves of them will be coming in during the sun and surf isn’t that likely.
It’s more lucrative for networks to air shows that are cheaper to produce for the ratings stuff gets in the summer time. Viewership for broadcast television is down in the summer, so it’s just not worth it when they could air some sort of reality show or and get twice the ratings of a rerun.
There are so many avenues for people to catch up nowadays and the DVDs will be released 1 month (minimum) before the new season begins so I’m sure they aren’t concerned no one will be able to catch up that actually wants to. Many people will season pass a show on the DVR and watch it over the summer, besides the online catch-ups. The areas where high speed internet is not available are probably STILL not widespread enough to make reruns worth it.
Networks have recently found that people are fleeing to cable programming because it’s new and original this time of year. The only way they know how to woo people back in the absence of an ability to program their main shows to air year round, is the gimmicks mostly of reality TV.
Also Once is not the type of show that repeats “well”. The best thing for that is a procedural, the CSI/NCIS/Criminal Minds type stuff where a person can tune into any episode and know what’s going on. I’m sure CBS will be airing the most reruns of any broadcast channel this summer but in general, reruns have been going the way of the dinosaurs for awhile now.
AliasscapeParticipantAlso, in reality Ashley is 19 + 28 years. The only person not old enough to drink in Storybrooke is Henry. 😆
AliasscapeParticipantI assume eventually George was after Charming for his defiance, without the wedding really mattering anymore. Surely Midas called off the engagement once Abigail had Frederick back. So there’s no reason for George to put on a show for Midas anymore. It was now just about Charming being this renegade heir he no longer wanted.So he just needed to dump him to be sure he didn’t inherit the kingdom but everyone else was then inconsequential.
Now why Charming didn’t seem concerned prior to this I don’t know. Could he have arranged for his other to go into hiding?
AliasscapeParticipantWe still don’t know how much of Regina’s story was true and how much wasn’t. The only thing we know was false was that Belle didn’t die. But there may have been just enough truth in Regina’s story that a cursory check would have made it all seem true. Maybe people DID believe Belle was dead for some reason that Regina concocted. But for all we know it was true up until the moment of leaping out the tower at which point Regina teleported Belle away to a dungeon for safekeeping. Or she gave her a sleeping potion, so Belle was buried and Regina teleported her out of her grave thereafter.
I was thinking it’d be easier for Belle and Mo not to have a relationship in Storybrooke if it turns out he did in some way reject her/drive her away. (They’ll probably pretend he never existed the same way they haven’t brought back up Charming’s mother but oh well.) On the one hand, what could Rumpel do to Mo in the Enchanted Forest that would make him suffer more than believing his daughter killed herself? Only in Storybrooke would he have really been unburdened since he didn’t recall and then Gold felt the guy needed punishing?
Edit: I also think seeing the future is often interpreted too broadly. If you can see one future event happening a year, a month, a week, you can see the future. But it doesn’t mean you know any and everything that ever did or will happen. Maybe you can only see your own future, or only see major future events but not smaller ones. Or maybe you can only see what you know to look for.
AliasscapeParticipantIf you scroll down here and open the pdf file, you can read the Emmy ballots:
http://www.emmys.tv/ballots/2012/performers
Kinda bugs me Lana, Eion and Josh didn’t submit pictures, no matter how optional it is. It’s also hysterical to me that Robert’s submitted picture is him dressed up as Rumpel. 😆
Also I’ve seen shows where people submit themselves as lead a few times and lose, then they submit themselves as supporting. I’ve heard people debate “vote splitting” a lot for actors from the same shows undercutting their chances when they’re in the same category. But yeah I still say it’s often mostly about what they think you have the best chance in.
AliasscapeParticipantI assume TVGuide would have the better information since their guy is the one who will be moderating. The date seems to be before the supposed start filming so maybe Robert won’t be back on this side of the pond yet. (Can you conference call table reads?) But sometimes the panel listings have people added and removed as I recall.
Feel bad Jared doesn’t get to go though, seems like he really wanted to.
AliasscapeParticipantIf muggle means a normal person, then oh agreed, Heather. It would be interesting for the show to ever face a threat of outsiders figuring out fairy tales are real and what they would do if they did. ? Would he try to blackmail them? Would there be more magic power hungry people descending on their town? Could add some urgency to the “We must get back to fairy tale land.”
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