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I think Rumpel’s an interesting, dark character who nicely adds both drama and comedy. But I don’t love the character over most of the others or feel sorry for him or want him redeemed or anything like that. I don’t care for any of the ‘ships involving him and pretty much feel his character’s best role is adding conflict so I’d be kinda annoyed if he becomes a goodie for any length of time.
[adrotate group="5"]I think what a lot of people see in some of the playground destruction or other things like that is a pattern of disregard for Henry’s emotional well-being. There’s also her not seeming to have had any concerns about Henry being a kid with no friends, or what it would be like to for HIM to be a kid who ages in her non-aging town with clear memories when everyone else’s are hazy.
Perhaps she wanted all this since it guaranteed her being able to raise a child in near total emotional isolation, hopefully keeping him from ever wanting to leave her. Just as Regina believes she loves (only) Henry, I think she also wanted Henry to love only her.
I also don’t doubt Regina BELIEVES she loves Henry. I believe Lana BELIEVES Regina believes she loves Henry. All this means to me is that Regina loves Henry as much as she is capable of loving or in the only way she knows how. What I think they’ve shown us though is that in the grand scheme of things Regina doesn’t love him enough to give up her quest for revenge or to stop doing bad things that make impossible for her to remain a free member of society without placing people in danger. So her love for him doesn’t really rise high enough to hit the threshold of “should keep custody.” since that’d be especially hard to do with banished or locked away, or on the run from the “untold millions you cursed”
The less we try and compare the Regina, Emma, Henry custody situation to a real life adoption the better, imo. Using real as a synonym for biological or birth is insensitive to and rude. But there are other ways to mean real, I think a lot of times people are referring to who they feel most acts as a mother should toward Henry or may even be using Henry’s own phrasing from the pilot, relying on who he FEELS is his mother. Or maybe real as in who currently has physical custody.
It’s a given that Henry’s so called legal adoption was surely based on fraudulent. paperwork. Can you imagine Regina putting the real answers to questions like “Where were you born?” “How old are you?” “Ever been married?” Haha, if she put the real answers, any adoption agency that gave a baby to someone who listed their birth place as “Enchanted Forest, Another World” can’t be reputable. 😆
Yeah, she makes the floor stick to his feet or something.
Jefferson is on my villains list actually. He aimed a gun at Emma’s head and we don’t KNOW what would have happened if Mary Margaret hadn’t hit him with the croquet mallet. He now knew Emma didn’t believe, she’d made a hat and it didn’t work, and he may have been convinced she was now useless. He also may have felt vengeful against her for not truly TRYING to help him.
Then all the stuff he did in the last two episodes. He hasn’t been shown to have concern about anyone but himself and Grace. (Kinda like how Regina doesn’t really care about what happens to anyone but herself and Henry.)
We know Jefferson didn’t want to leave his daughter fatherless. We know he felt bad about what happened to Grace’s mother (whatever that was.) We know he’s creative and imaginative. These are all nice things, but none of them actually make him a good person. (Especially if like me, you don’t define good as simply at the absence of evil. You can do good, you can actively be good. You are good if you do and be those things.Which he doesn’t even have the absence of evil going for him actually. Retrieving that apple was pretty evil.)
James or Joseph I think are the most likely middle names.
It would amuse me if it was Daniel Jackson because of Stargate though.
It also cannot be underestimated that while our heroes are a lovely bunch of Henry’s relatives there are surely some baddies who want revenge on Regina for what she’s done to them. Who is to say they wouldn’t try to hurt Henry to exact their revenge on the Evil Queen? Her actions put him in danger.
I was pretty sure Regina ran from the hospital without him because she didn’t want him caught up in the lynch mob she had no protection against (until magic was unleashed again.) While we don’t know how they do it in the Enchanted Forest, in many an Earth revolution, if you take out the ruling party, you take out their entire family.
I tend to draw the line at calling rapist, murderers good parents. Funny that way I guess.
I think part of being a good parent is being a good enough person that society doesn’t have to fear you’ll do them harm, and thereby keep you locked away from most people.
That said I do find Henry and Regina’s relationship fascinating. I get sad when I see it claimed that not loving the person who took care of you is a sign of mental defect or that he’s ungrateful. As far as I can see, Henry doesn’t run around destroying Regina’s property or trying to kill her in her sleep. He does his chores. He (usually) goes to school. He doesn’t physically attack her. He goes to therapy, he sits down to meals with her.
Gratitude and love are different things. I can be grateful someone made me dinner, or let me borrow a dollar, or even saved my life without deciding I need to live with that person and love them.
One thing, Henry even AGREED with Emma when Emma tried to leave him and said “She’s going to take really good care of you.”
He said “Yes, but she wants you dead.”
He has no doubts Regina would take care of him. But his moral compass doesn’t allow his own needs be where his concern for others stops. He knows with 100% certainty he lives with a KILLER who enslaved an entire world. “Yeah well, she makes a mean pot roast!” doesn’t cut it for him. And thank goodness for that.
If we had to sit down with Henry to hash it out, most arguments pretty much would end there:
“Your mom makes sure you have food clothing and shelter.”“Yeah but she kills people.”
“Your mom never lays a finger on you.”
“Yeah but she kills people.”
“Your mom doesn’t yell at you even when you yell at her.”
“Yeah but she kills people.”
“This woman raised you for 10 years. Show some respect.”
“I’ll respect her when she stops TRYING TO KILL PEOPLE.”
I think the clock is simply symbolic of a new game set up. This chess game has ended. Now we’re playing Reversi (or something) so everyone’s score (or clock) is reset to zero.
Also stopping the clock is just useless logistically anyway because Jared Gilmore isn’t going to quit aging. If they’d killed Henry, they could have stopped the clock. But he’s alive and well and the kid’s not out of a job so the clock must still be moving.
There’s also the possibility that the true love potion gave Emma unusual powers in Storybrooke (and in my mind, will continue to since that’s the magic permeating the place now.) Perhaps normally parent/child love ISN’T usable but because the magic in Storybrooke is basically designed to respond to Emma, it worked.
Regina seemed pretty shocked, which suggests parent/child love would not have EVER worked in the Enchanted Forest.
Then we just have the fact that Rumpel’s story with Baelfire preceeds every thing else in the timeline by centuries. Types of magic can apparently come and go (they couldn’t make more magic beans, they can’t make more enchanted trees). Perhaps True Love’s kiss was not a power that existed at the time.
I guess Gold would need the real story from Belle as to what really happened with her father. I think he was a guest star so it’d probably be easiest if he had betrayed her in some way and then they don’t have mention him or bring him back (of course where’s Charming’s mother?). I think Belle would probably stay with Gold, 28-29 years, he’s probably not letting her out of his sight plus she’d just end up a pawn with Regina trying to take her back with anyone else.
Still the show had to have been thinking originally Emilie de Ravin was going to be mostly unavailable due to her possible new show. Meaning, I assume in the premiere, that Gold will place her in hiding or something.
I think either Charming’s moving into Mary Margaret’s place, or Snow is moving to David’s house and Emma and Henry will live at the hovel. Or all 4 of them will go live some place else together.
