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@BeastWhisperer wrote:
I really don’t think Colin has any plans to leave the show. OUAT is good for his career; he’s getting great exposure from being on a hit series. He seems to get along with everyone. I haven’t seen anything to point to him leaving at all.
I do get what you mean about recasting rather than killing off characters if actors become unavailable. I can think of multiple shows that were ruined for me by an actor leaving and their character being killed. One series killed their romantic lead during the Christmas special after his wife in the show had just given birth, and that was the second major character killed in that season. I will never watch another episode of that show again. I’m more inclined to the theater approach. They didn’t close down Phantom of the Opera just because Michael Crawford moved on. There are times I’m okay with killing the character (Mitchell in Being Human was very well done), but not when there’s an ongoing story that really needs to be explored and concluded.
Exactly. That’s why I hope that if O’Donoghue can’t be there, that they’ll replace him with somebody else.
[adrotate group="5"]@PriceofMagic wrote:
Getting another Hook won’t be that simple. I don’t mind Hook, don’t care what happens to him either way, but it would be really off putting if they had a different actor especially when it comes to flashbacks. We have Hook already in flashbacks so it would look odd if he suddenly looked older in flashbacks set chronologically before he broke into Belle’s cell.
I’m not saying an older Hook, I mean another Hook. I want Hook on the show, even if it’s a different actor. Believe me, three episodes into his performance, nobody will care. I don’t want Hook gone if O’Donoghue can’t be there. That’s his problem.
I know I keep saying I’m gone, but I just keep finding things I want to comment on so I’m going to retract that statement. I won’t be posting much, but I did want to say something about this.
I think Colin O’Donoghue is a great actor. I’m with those who think it’s all about a good actor, the writing, and the character though. Colin O’Donoghue is not Killian Jones or James Hook. If something happens that he can’t keep being Hook, I want Hook to stay around whether it’s the same actor or not. I hope Captain Hook will be recasted by somebody else. I think the show would be better for it. They need somebody a little more grown up and well-rounded, anyway. The reasons I say that would be more appropriate for another topic because it’s going to be the type of conversation that makes people think. I don’t feel like going there today.I know there are people who think it’d be a problem having somebody else in that outfit. They’ll get over it, and quickly, especially if the replacement is good looking as Colin is.
By the way, you’ll notice his image is gone from my avatar. It’s not by accident.
Jaime Dornan isn’t that great a choice, but there is a guy who is in the Hobbit who would be perfect for it (one of the “lads”).
If they don’t do this, before long, I’ll be moving over into the Neal camp. For the meantime, I’m tweeting daily to ask K&H, and Jane Espenson to pick another Hook.
I really like TNG. I really like the science they put behind their story lines. DS9 was ok, but for me it tended to venture away from the “boldly go where no one has gone before” objective I was used to. Still not bad, though. It was a lot better when Worf was added to the show.
Definitely love the Voyage home. My favorites are Voyage Home, and Undiscovered Country. Much as I liked TNG though, I never cared for it’s movies.
Favorite TNG episodes: “The Inner Light” and “Reunification” (parts 1 and 2)
@Maiqu20 wrote:
@magic bean wrote:
@Maiqu20 wrote:
I love how they are showing us how much he sucks at being a villain…Maybe it’s because deep down he’s not a villain he’s just a man looking for his revenge
I love that fight with Emma..It’s so glaringly obvious he lost on purpose
I agree 100%. He is an anti-villian. He is a man who is broken- imagine how you would feel if your love was killed and died in your arms. I know I would be pretty traumatized and would want revenge. Before Milah, he was just a man who was carefree and wanted to experience life to the fullest.
They have purposefully made him to ‘suck’ at being a villian because he is not a villian. Yes, in the sneak peek he said he wanted to kill Belle- but I truly believe it was just all talk. He only wants to hurt Rumple. To use Belle to lure Rumple to him.
The directors have even stated that he is not truly a villian- “He is either a villian in a heros body, or a hero in a villians body”. And it is this that makes him redeemable. No matter what anyone else says I believe he will be redeemed, once he begins to develop his feelings for Emma, which have already been revealed.As for the fight with Emma, I agree. I mean he even stuck his sword in the sand when Emma was on the ground so he could grab her leg! He had about 6 opportunites to kill her. And I love what the writers have done, with how they contrasted how in the past Hook was going to kill Belle for no reason, and showed how he resfuses to even harm Emma. -Again redeemable qualities 🙂
I have to stop now before I write a whole 2 pages on this 😀
I’m just going to say it..I love you 😆
Yes to all this post!! He is the most easily redeemable of all the shows villains…he’s the Han Solo of OUAT at the moment
Yes!!! Agreed! Thank you, it’s good to know I wasn’t a lone wolf when I was trying to get people to understand there’s hope for this character! 😀
@PriceofMagic wrote:
@Oncewatcher wrote:
To answer your other question: Easily as Milah left Rumple, I’d have to guess not. At least, on her part. There’s a saying I know about people who date married people: If they’ll do it with you (cheat on their spouse by dating you), they’ll do it to you (cheat on you). Milah had a problem with selfishness, and it manifested itself, in part, with a lack of loyalty. Hook would have eventually been victim to that, when her heart became restless again, and it would have. As for Hook, I think he really did love Milah. I am not sure it was truly mutual. I think they both filled a need they both had, for different reasons, “in the moment”.
That’s an interesting thought. Hook and Milah’s “love” was based on Hook fulfilling Milah’s need for adventure. We know Hook is a bit of a womaniser so perhaps he didn’t want to spend his entire life hopping between women. When Milah was dying she told Hook that she loved him but he never said it back to her so perhaps the role Milah played for Hook is that he could return to a warm bed every night.
Perhaps Hook’s revenge against Rumple is more about his hand than Milah?
I think his revenge is more than being about his hand, and more than even being about Milah. Like said previously, I think Rumple wears many faces Hook has stamped on him. I think Milah’s place in his life was more than a woman in his bed. I think he used her to fill some sort of a hole in his life. Maybe, one he doesn’t see conciously on the surface. I do think he used her to fill that hole for the wrong reasons, and again, put somebody else’s face (maybe the faces of several people) in his life on her; that she became a “restitution” to him in some respect, and this wouldn’t have been fair to her. When that got taken away, something in me just doesn’t believe that Rumple was the only person he was mad at.
I think some may be a little bit too quick to stamp Hook with a label, and cast judgement on him. He is a lot deeper than what he seems to be on the surface. If his story can be treated like an onion; if the outer layers can be peeled away, I think there’d be a huge opportunity for a fantastic back-story about what led to him becoming a pirate, in the first place. You can’t know where you’re going, unless you know where you are, so that’s where everything that made Hook “Hook” began, and is the root of where his (rocky, and sometimes backslidden) redemption story can begin.
Man, I must have watched way too much Dr. Phil.
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@RumplesGirl wrote:
Hook, you’re making it very hard for me to really like you…
It’s a shame he’s being so mean and trying to get Belle in this clip, because that sideways glance and the sly grin he gives her…I may have melted just a tad. Oh Hook, how you toy with my emotions. 😉
Oh, don’t worry. I think his “Aha moment” is coming.
Another sneak peek, this time with Hook.
Better late, than never.
http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/01/11/once-upon-a-time-sneak-peek-hook-belle-exclusive-video/
@PriceofMagic wrote:
Rumple and Bae’s reunion is not going to be a happy one.
Indeed. There’s a lot of patching up they need to do. That won’t happen overnight. If the aspect of Captain Hook is there to tell him the whole story about his mother, that will particularly complicate their relationship, if he knew that his father killed his mother. Their relationship will be rocky, cordial at best. At least, for a while.
