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Maybe Isaac writes himself as the new Dark One. He’s been dependent on others to protect him, but as the new Dark One, he could protect himself.
Maybe he’d be powerful enough to protect himself from the Sorcerer
[adrotate group="5"]PanTheManParticipantHey, I’m down for Dark One Emma. I just want to see her green and scaly
PanTheManParticipantWho is the Dark One in this AU? The promo doesn’t show the Dark One. Any theories?
Emma?
Maybe, but we see Emma in the promo and she looks normal. No crocodile skin. Maybe Zozo is still around in the AU.
PanTheManParticipantEmma looks like she’s been locked in an attic or tower. I’m wondering if Hook is trying to rescue Emma, which is why we see him fighting Charming.
So if Emma is being kept locked up somewhere, is her story in the AU paralleling Cruella’s back story. It’s somewhat fitting since Emma killed Cruella. Maybe there’s a better parallel to what’s happening to Emma.
PanTheManParticipantWho is the Dark One in this AU? The promo doesn’t show the Dark One. Any theories?
I guess it’s possible that in Rumple’s HEA there is no Dark One, but I’d personally want to see the Dark One still in power in this AU.
PanTheManParticipantthe boy is Henry, I bet.
PanTheManParticipantI wanted to respond to this with something i posted in another thread.
<strong style=”box-sizing: border-box; color: #000000; font-family: proxima-nova, sans-serif; line-height: 25.6000003814697px;”>Will Killian (Colin O’Donoghue) play a role in bringing Emma back from the darkness?<br style=”box-sizing: border-box;” />HOROWITZ: Who says she’s being brought back from the darkness?
<p style=”box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, serif; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.74902);”>I just want to say that I don’t think Emma is turning dark.</p>
<p style=”box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, serif; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.74902);”>– Killing Cruella gets a pass. You hold a gun to a kid’s head, somebody’s going to get hurt. Heroes do kill, and sometimes that’s why their heroes.</p>
<p style=”box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, serif; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.74902);”>– Emma pushed and threatened to hit Lily’s old landlord when he insulted Lilly. Ok, fine… doesn’t mean Emma is going Dark. In the pilot, we saw Emma bang a guy’s head against his steering wheel after he provoked her. If anything, Emma is just a different person outside of Storybrooke. She was raised in the real world and knows who she has to be to survive it.</p>
<p style=”box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, serif; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.74902);”>I don’t think the writers are showing us Emma heading down a dark past. They’re showing us an extreme version of Emma that has always existed. Coming to storybrooke changed her life, and she was resistant to that change for a long time. Venturing back into the real world brings out a side to Emma that we aren’t used to seeing.</p>
<p style=”box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, serif; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.74902);”>After what the Apprentice did to baby Lily/Egg, we are left we two possible outcomes:</p>
<p style=”box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, serif; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.74902);”>1. All of Emma’s potential for darkness went into Lily, protecting Emma’s heart from darkness ever touching it. In season 2, Cora tried to take Emma’s heart and couldn’t. Could it be because of what the Apprentice did?</p>
<p style=”box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, serif; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.74902);”>Another example, Emma killed Cruella with LIGHT MAGIC. Seems like if the savior were going dark, her magic would’ve taken on a darker color. Regina couldn’t tap in to her Light Magic until she found herself in a good, healthy place emotionally.</p>
<p style=”box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, serif; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.74902);”>2. All the Apprentice did was send the egg, Cruella, and Ursula to a Land Without Magic, having been manipulated by the Author. Maybe the Apprentice’s spell was never about transfering Emma’s darkness. Maybe it was only to get various pieces on the chess board into certain positions for the “final battle” to play out.</p>
<p style=”box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, serif; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.74902);”>We know the Author was manipulating the stories, so maybe he only made the characters think they had transfered darkness into the egg, but all that really happened is that they sent the egg to another land. However, after the most recent episode, we know that the Apprentice blames himself for what happened to Lily so much that he intervened and explained things to her, which makes me think his spell definitely worked.</p>
<p style=”box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, serif; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.74902);”>If it did work, Emma can’t go dark. The only way I could see it happening is if she became the next Dark One.</p>PanTheManParticipantI’ve wondered if these stories have been playing out over and over again with the characters being aware of it.
I’ve been thinking about this a lot as well lately. The idea that our characters are just stock characters of the universe–archetypes–playing out the same light vs dark story over and over is very true to how stories work across time and space. My all time favorite OUAT promo was right before S3A in which the department set everyone up as their archetype–the Queen, the Princess, The Knight, The Pirate, The Wizard, the Savior. What are those if not just archetypes who keep getting caught up in the eternal never ending struggle for light and goodness? It also brings to mind some stuff I wrote a few weeks back not only about Emma’s Monomyth but also about Emma as the Eternal Champion.
I read those your thoughts when you posted them. I’ve wondered if that if with every new iteration, the story evolves a little bit – like the story changes, which could explain why these stories are so different than the traditional (or even Disney) versions we know.
PanTheManParticipantWhat I’m curious about is whether or not there have been Saviors before Emma. If that’s where the ink for the Author comes from, there would’ve had to have been previous saviors, right?
Yes good question. But I’d say we could look at history/mythology for an answer to that. There have always been savior figures. They spring up in every mythology known to man. It’s our rather monotheistic world view that makes us think there can only be ONE. But..you’ve seen the Matrix, yeah? Neo in the “One” but he’s also one of many. He’s part of an equation that played itself out over and over. He’s not the first, but he is the last. That’s Emma. She might not be the first Savior, because Savior’s rise up in times of cosmological crises, but she is the Last.
With these magical world existing outside of time, I’ve thought of the Matrix a lot lately in regards to once. I’ve wondered if these stories have been playing out over and over again with the characters being aware of it.
PanTheManParticipantWhat I’m curious about is whether or not there have been Saviors before Emma. If that’s where the ink for the Author comes from, there would’ve had to have been previous saviors, right?
Also, that did feel a little bit more like Rumple than Regina, but it was Regina’s color of *POOF* smoke.
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