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I just want to say that I don’t think Emma is turning dark.
– Killing Cruella gets a pass. You hold a gun to a kid’s head, somebody’s going to get hurt. Heroes do kill, and sometimes that’s why their heroes.
– Emma pushed and threatened to hit Lily’s old landlord when he insulted Lilly. Ok, fine… doesn’t mean Emma is going Dark. In the pilot, we saw Emma bang a guy’s head against his steering wheel after he provoked her. If anything, Emma is just a different person outside of Storybrooke. She was raised in the real world and knows who she has to be to survive it.
I don’t think the writers are showing us Emma heading down a dark past. They’re showing us an extreme version of Emma that has always existed. Coming to storybrooke changed her life, and she was resistant to that change for a long time. Venturing back into the real world brings out a side to Emma that we aren’t used to seeing.
After what the Apprentice did to baby Lily/Egg, we are left we two possible outcomes:
1. All of Emma’s potential for darkness went into Lily, protecting Emma’s heart from darkness ever touching it. In season 2, Cora tried to take Emma’s heart and couldn’t. Could it be because of what the Apprentice did?
Another example, Emma killed Cruella with LIGHT MAGIC. Seems like if the savior were going dark, her magic would’ve taken on a darker color. Regina couldn’t tap in to her Light Magic until she found herself in a good, healthy place emotionally.
2. All the Apprentice did was send the egg, Cruella, and Ursula to a Land Without Magic, having been manipulated by the Author. Maybe the Apprentice’s spell was never about transfering Emma’s darkness. Maybe it was only to get various pieces on the chess board into certain positions for the “final battle” to play out.
We know the Author was manipulating the stories, so maybe he only made the characters think they had transfered darkness into the egg, but all that really happened is that they sent the egg to another land. However, after the most recent episode, we know that the Apprentice blames himself for what happened to Lily so much that he intervened and explained things to her, which makes me think his spell definitely worked.
If it did work, Emma can’t go dark. The only way I could see it happening is if she became the next Dark One.
[adrotate group="5"]But where does that door lead? I mean he was trapped inside the book–so he was trapped inside a drawing of a door and necessarily a real world right? The world building lately has just confused me.
I don’t think he was in a “world”. He says he couldn’t reach the rum that was in his back pocket, so I think he was really trapped in a….compact form, tight space, door/closet place.
He was trapped in a cramped space… like a certain Genie we all know.
I was really happy for this information, and it seems to explains a few things that have bothered me as far as timeline stuff goes.
Mainly, it explains how Jefferson helped Regina recover the poison apple in season 1. At the time, it seemed to be time travel, but knowing that these lands exist outside of time kind of help to support how that was possible.
Going back to the CHICKEN OR THE EGG debate.
What came first? Neverland the place or J.M. Barrie’s Peter Pan and Wendy? Timeline wise for the show, Neverland would’ve had to exist before Barrie wrote his play/novel.
However, if Neverland exists outside of time, then it’s possible that Barrie’s writing actually created the Neverland we know. Or just by getting people to believe in Neverland through his play, actually created the Neverland outside of time.
I hope that makes sense.
Whether it’s squid blood or not, I think Rumple will use the ink in Cruella’s hair. Magic can’t be destroyed, but it can change forms.
With Cruella’s body lying at the bottom of a bluff, Rumple’s going to show up and “procure” (don’t you love that word) the ink that she spilled on herself.
It goes against the “Evil wasn’t born, it’s made.”
I think that’s what I liked about it, actually. It was finally something different from the same tired story.
I don’t think it does go against “Evil isn’t born, it’s made.” Cruella had that one line about when she was a little girl, deciding to “Splash around in the darkness.” To me, this means she made a choice to go dark, grooming herself to become darker. She made herself dark by her own choices.
a little girl probably doesn’t even know how to recognise darkness though. and she hasn’t really been out enough, living in a fairly sheltered place, to experience darkness and no what it is. Like i said this concept could have worked FOR ANOTHER CHARACTER. evil in the real world most often comes from men in suits, not quirky, crazy colourful types. it’d be nice to have a villain who’s “just evil” but wasn’t someone like Cruella.
“a little girl” knew trumpet flowers were poisonous enough to give her father (and 2 stepfathers) a heart attack while maintaining that she was an innocent “little girl.”
It goes against the “Evil wasn’t born, it’s made.”
I think that’s what I liked about it, actually. It was finally something different from the same tired story.
I don’t think it does go against “Evil isn’t born, it’s made.”
Cruella had that one line about when she was a little girl, deciding to “Splash around in the darkness.” To me, this means she made a choice to go dark, grooming herself to become darker. She made herself dark by her own choices.
Question for conversation: The Quill–who created it?
The Enchanted Trees created the quill. All the enchanted trees got together to discuss their retaliation for so many people chopping them down for magical Wardrobes, puppets without strings, and pirate ships. Knowing that soon there wouldn’t be any of them left, the enchanted trees decided to make a quill from one of their branches, a quill that would allow them to control the very people chopping them down. They intended to use the quill to save their dying race, but, unfortunately, having no proper digits, one of the trees dropped the quill. A human came along and found it – probably the sorcerer. Seeing the power the quill possessed lead the humans to begin the mass genocide of the enchanted trees. And that is why there are no more enchanted trees left today, class.
So they are Ents?
Ents are entirely different. An Ent would’ve been able to pick up the quill after dropping it. Perhaps they are distantly related though. Maybe the first enchanted trees came from Middle Earth.
Question for conversation: The Quill–who created it?
The Enchanted Trees created the quill. All the enchanted trees got together to discuss their retaliation for so many people chopping them down for magical Wardrobes, puppets without strings, and pirate ships. Knowing that soon there wouldn’t be any of them left, the enchanted trees decided to make a quill from one of their branches, a quill that would allow them to control the very people chopping them down. They intended to use the quill to save their dying race, but, unfortunately, having no proper digits, one of the trees dropped the quill.
A human came along and found it – probably the sorcerer. Seeing the power the quill possessed lead the humans to begin the mass genocide of the enchanted trees.
And that is why there are no more enchanted trees left today, class. 😉
