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The only thing that I seemed to get out of this was this is actually one huge film project (of Neal’s?) basically a hidden film project within a television show?
I guess I am not necessarily understanding why the different continuity errors and filming techniques could not be the work of a crew that made a mistake (it happens) and wanting to make a scene more suspenseful.
Though what if these “clues” are a sort of means showing how Emma sees the world versus Henry. We have someone who finds the “clues” that could explain the premise in real world terms. A sort of Emma type.
Then we have the type who might want to believe it was all real (or wish it would be–though I would never want to meet Cora). A sort of Henry type.
I don’t think it is really any much deeper. I think the crew purposely choose specific filming techniques and methods to create a world, enriches it and to visually show the emotional state of a character.
For instance we have the beginning scene of Broken.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wp8ftHZrg0In the beginning of Broken we have a very muted scene were they emphasize on the clopping of the horse’s hooves in the background. Then suddenly we are bombarded with the real sounds of the city. I think it was showing a few things.
One) the difference of the world of Storybrooke and by extension Fairytale Land that has that small town feel (few cars passing through) and Fairytale Land that does not have the things we have such as pistols, cars, etc. Two) The while the city is very busy that a person can still be “alone” or feel in their own world…where all they hear or feel is the “clopping” of their feet. Three) The mp3 player I believe shows that for some it is a choice to alienate themselves from the energy, the noise, etc of others.
[adrotate group="5"]But with a word like repercussions I got the impression that killing Emma would actually bring about an unwelcome consequence. Unless he was saying that from Regina’s perspective killing Emma would break the curse which was what Regina did not want. However from Mr. Gold’s end breaking the curse would be a good thing…
That is unless there is a serious consequence for killing the “savior” and Mr. Gold was trying to remind Regina the price to pay for doing so was too high for either of them to pay?
@Oncewatcher wrote:
If he is ok with receiving love and affection from adoring fans, then I think he should be okay with at the very least, reassuring of his well being. It doesn’t mean he has to reveal all. Having a private life doesn’t mean he should exploit others by taking disregarding the feelings and affections of others. It just takes total advantage. That’s a an issue for me. Disagree all you want to, I won’t change my mind about it.
We will have to agree to disagree. Simply because I don’t understand your perception or path you are coming from as a fan. Though thank you for your input and showing your perspective. 😀
That said this is where I am coming from: I suppose it could be that I grew up where the fourth wall was so firmly in place that we had to take what we could get. With the ease of communication I can see why fans want to see more interaction.
I guess I am not seeing how his not divulging his life is exploiting you. I personally had thought his recognizing the artwork, saying hi to fans (when they ask for a retweet), and I think he did say thank you for the birthday wishes was interaction and recognition in itself.
It just feels worrisome to me in my limited understanding that any fan is so invested to the point that they feel indignant, exploited (not sure what other words to say here) if their favorite actor does not act in a way that they would like to see. From what I have seen he’s never been froward with any one fan he is simply a little more tight lipped. So at least he is a respectful tight-lipped actor. 😛
Perhaps as time goes on he might use twitter a bit more that his fans want him to use it. It’s just for me as long as we’re all respectful that’s what matters. Because you know.. if fans are too forceful, aggressive whatever he could simply do a Moffat and delete his twitter. Then were does that leave us? I wanted to end my post with a hook pun but could only think of hookless..
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@Toothfairy wrote:
You’re absolutely right, however, Colin can come out and say he’s fine, not to worry, and put this to bed….or he can do/say nothing. His choice. One result invites the other. It’s by human nature that every mystery must be solved. That’s why he’d be well served to not allow one. I’ve seen in the media where so many other famous people have been so mistreated by rumors born of speculation. Some well based, and some just plain rediculous. In either case, it isn’t fair, but in every case, the conditions exist. Should he have to take this bull by the horns to say anything? No. Does he have to disclose every detail? No. Would it be wiser for him be proactive enough to say something, rather than nothing? You can bet on it. If it doesn’t do him service now, it will for him later. One action will most certainly serve him more than another. He’s in the public eye, and his house is glass. It’s why many famous people don’t do social media. It’s also why some famous people had a few good successes, and decided to leave show business because they realized their houses turned to glass when they decided they wanted this career, and didn’t like the package deal. Welcome to show business. It’s the nature of the beast and contrary to the lessons many of our kids are learning these days, you don’t get to redefine the conditions of your environment because you don’t like them.
The only middle ground I can think of since it seems Colin is not comfortable with a public relationship with his fans (save for specific place and times) is that his “people” talk for him about any rumor that is circulating. However I do think that some fans need to respect how he chooses to use the social media he is on. It seems his twitter account is more about retweeting artwork and the like rather than actually having one on one tweets with fans. I know some use their twitter to talk about things they are doing (Lauren Graham was recently advertising her book for instance) or something along those lines. (:
I just hate the idea that because someone is a popular actor they somehow cannot be granted the right to choose how much privacy is disclosed because of something I (or fans in general) wants.
@King Arthur wrote:
I think that is just how OUaT has been spelling the name RumPLEstiltskin. It how it’s listed on Wikipedia and IMDB. Even though the original Grimm’s fairytale it’s spelled as RumPELstiltskin.
One thing I have read in Charles DeLint’s stories is that there is power in a name. I think it has been mentioned in the series (though commenting that it was a good name for example).
So I had a thought.
Maybe this is a loophole that Rumpelstiltskin uses to rid himself of the limitation of the curse? His name is spelled Rumpelstiltskin but the dagger (or the previous Dark Lord) perceived to being Rumplestiltskin. In order to control the Dark One the name on the dagger has to be spelled correctly. Then theoretically no one can control him. I do think Rumple hid it nevertheless as not to test out the theory only to have it fail then he’d be at the mercy of the one wielding the dagger. The other aspect of the dagger (killing the Dark One to gain its curse/power) still exists.
What such a great find about the dagger because I totally missed that.
@BeastWhisperer wrote:
That was the first thing that came to my mind too. I love the theories about that on here. My brain just got stuck on the fact that he bred peas, so I’m having weird but funny thoughts about The Princess and the Pea as a tale of genetic engineering gone wrong. Thank goodness there are no connections between that tale and the real world, because that is the worst fairytale princess ever.
Love both the Oz and Hyde theories!
(Just wanted to say being overtired I added a R to your name and have such an image in my head)
Also your post sparked my imagination and I then thought of a person/pea hybrid then Violet.. and thinking “Sweetpea! You’re turning into a pea!” This is also a result of being overly tired.
The story of the Princess and the Pea always creeped me out. I always imagined a couple of images. One who would be the spoiled brat who would complain about how the bed was too lumpy, scratchy or there was not enough feathers etc. The other was a poor girl with such a horrible medical condition that she actually got bruised because of a pea… I was actually kind of scared for her life. Imagine what it would be like simply sit down? Her butt would be black and blue..
And that was my thought process when I was a kid..I saw this article but I honestly never understood that it was a type of emotional sensitivity.
@Mich7 wrote:
@playarita wrote:
When he confronts Hook. That was brave. He did not choose to fight because he is essentially a statistician (without the formal training) he could see that there was never any way he would win. It could be that he took a look of the situation and realized that Milah was not worth fighting for–not to the point of death. He might have loved her–but only in so much as what necessary in his duty as a husband. The same applied to her only she decided to go against convention and abandon her “duty.” He also shows human nature at its ugliest when he crushes Milah’s heart.
First off…you did an excellent overall analysis…just wanted to add to your part about Milah that I believe that in confronting Hook he not only realized that he could not win but that fighting and losing to Hook would leave Bae without both parents. It may have not been the only factor in backing down but since Bae is the motivating factor for almost everything Rumple does…I think it could have been the strongest.
😀 I love your reasoning and really fits with what Rumple is about deep down. He has moments of self-interest but also willing to sacrifice himself (image, reputation etc) for the well-being of loved ones (with Bae, and Belle) yet at the same he has his faults: his anger, his resentment, etc.
I have never been a fan of the insult coward.
In the context of the world he lived in Rumple was in a considerable disadvantage. He had an occupation that was usually regarded for children and women. He was physically weaker and had the limp.
The world he lived in basically held firm the masculine/feminine archetypes. Anyone deviating from that in any way (physically, occupationally, intellectually etc) would have been looked down on, insulted etc. With Rumple not only did he not fit the masculine role but he had strengths in areas that would have been seen as odd, discomfiting, and seen as valueless
His running away from the war was simply his self-interest in saving himself and possibly seeing the war for it was. (We have seen it recently with Bush.) Additionally with his limp he was probably given jobs that were usually relocated to children and women which means he was probably insulted. Perhaps at the time of the battle he was told to get out because he’d be a hindrance. Because everyone else died they might have assumed he ran away rather than listening to orders.
When he confronts Hook. That was brave. He did not choose to fight because he is essentially a statistician (without the formal training) he could see that there was never any way he would win. It could be that he took a look of the situation and realized that Milah was not worth fighting for–not to the point of death. He might have loved her–but only in so much as what necessary in his duty as a husband. The same applied to her only she decided to go against convention and abandon her “duty.” He also shows human nature at its ugliest when he crushes Milah’s heart.
As for magic being his crutch. I believe he is essentially saying it is his addiction. He relies on magic so much so that he perceives it as a need that he cannot do without. He may also have a love of the power that he might not have ever really experienced before.
Then with leaving Bae, yes that was cowardice but that was also fear. Extreme fear of the unknown and his being afraid of not only losing his magic (strength and power) but returning to the feeble man who he felt would be a burden to Bae. Not only in Bae having to take care of him, or his not being able to keep up, but the fact that the world could be cruel to Bae (i.e. children making fun) because of him.
Yes he has cowardice but I think it is a serious over-simplification of a man who showing human nature at its very core.
I think his changing has more to do with coming to terms with himself and his limitations (possibly seeing that it is not a limitation), and coming to trust in himself (and what he can offer) and trusting others (in this case Belle for loving him fully–warts and all).
I have noticed that a lot of artists talk about how they see it in their dreams (either at night or daydreaming) , or perhaps through meditation, lsd etc where it expands their consciousness to see glimpses of things that can only describe in their limited vocabulary. What these people “see” is a distorted, limited view of other worlds. Sort of like on a hot summer day and the heat waves ripples through the air distorting the image… perhaps our own human limitation (in this world) ripples with enough strength that seeing the worlds with clarity is difficult…
I think of it this way: how would someone, say from the Victorian era, think to consider a car (horseless carriage), a plane etc. So these people who connect briefly to the other world might see such short snippets that there pieces lost in translation (or interpreted in a way that fits their world–so a German name because English since Mary Shelley was English), or described in a limited vocabulary or description or forced to fit a given time’s social climate
