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@BoPeeps I have to agree 1000%. Hook is my favorite character too and has been since his intro and Emma’s standoffishness, though perceived as protecting herself by most of the fandom, is getting old and beginning to grate. Not only has Killian given her no reason to doubt his loyalty, crossing realms (and perhaps time as well) to reach her, but she also has to remember that he confessed his feelings for her in the Echo Cave, hence his veracity cannot be in doubt. I admit she’s not had a whole lot of time to process since she had no memories of the last year and hence couldn’t really “miss” him as he missed her. Plus she’s had to deal with Walsh’s betrayal and Henry being clueless, Neal’s death and the Wicked Witch. Overwhelming, yes. I also know its only a matter of time before the dam breaks and her feelings come pouring out.
That said, I maybe among the few who want Emma to acknowledge her feelings without any duress, and not when Killian is in a life-threatening situation/ under a sleeping curse vis-a-vis Season 1.

And I have a sort of head-canon how this could happen in 3×17.

The Jolly Roger could be paralleling Good Form in more ways than one.
Hook takes off on an adventure with an important male member in Emma’s family (Charming/Henry). (Remember Eddy saying Hook and Henry make quite the team?) while Emma teams up with Regina to achieve an important target in their mission (defeat WW/ save Henry). Also we saw in Good form what made Killian embrace the pirate life and in Jolly Roger we’ll probably see what made him give it up forever.And we know what happens when Hook and Emma meet alone later in Good form. I’ve been thinking all this while that we wouldn’t have another kiss (that would most likely be a TLK) until the finale since it would be required to break the curse and would need to be part of a climactic scenario much like S1.
But when you think about it what exactly did the curse do? It brought them to SB and took away their memories of the last year that served out the plot device of them not knowing who cursed them. Now that they know there’s no real reason for the memories to stay hidden. In fact, getting them back may advance the plot especially where OQ is concerned.
And we do know now that Zelena has a far more nefarious purpose, using the brain, courage and heart to cast a new curse that would erase/change the past?
So guys what if there’s a CS kiss in 317 and it actually breaks the curse, everyone gets their memories back and CS is irrefutably established as TRUE LOVE? This also pushes up the probability of it being a CS wedding in the finale & its likely they take off together on the next adventure that could be some sort of time travel to try and thwart the WWs curse?

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Emma had to kiss her true love to break the 1st storybrooke curse (which was Henry) as a condition of breaking the 1st curse, so it didnt matter how many other TL’s kissed, the curse was only set to break when Emma performed it-

Yep, I realize the first curse had Emma built-in as the Savior by Rumple well before it was cast and hence only Emma could break it. But I don’t see anyone else potentially breaking the WW’s curse this time round unless its Regina but idk if she can do that in her cursed state. Plus if you consider the Emma= Dorothy theory and Hook being the only one to have escaped the WW’s curse (still not sure about Rumple), my gut feeling is that the TLK will work similar to Season 1, like you say, the 2 birds, 1 stone thing…wake up and shake up! 🙂

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I didnt know how on earth they’d work a sleeping curse in since its ‘EQ/Regina’s’ thing. But now the WW has Regina’s cursed hair pin, it seems logical that someone is going to take a sleeping curse & require kissing awake- so why not Killian & Emma … Although I would like to see Regina’s reaction to having TLK work for her & Robin (however she already has the lion tattoo to go off of, so I’m back to CS getting TLK via sleeping curse- esp since it would parallel Snowing very nicely indeed)

Idk, I have a feeling TLK isn’t gonna work if you’re cursed. In Season 1 Snowing kissed repeatedly in Storybrooke but they were cursed. It needed Emma to kiss Henry (both of whom weren’t cursed) to break the first curse. And who are the only ones who’re not cursed and have their memories intact right now? ;).

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& @Killian Jones is correct (I think) that Emma & Killian have some sort of special connection- which we’ve been told about since the beanstalk & that A&E as well as the actors have confirmed a number of times. It’s the only thing that makes sense, otherwise it would be odd indeed that Killian was the only one her super power worked, on emotional or not

Thanks @surayya! Just edited my last post with the code in place and it worked 🙂

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Emma’s super power doesnt work well when her emotions are involved (at least that is what A&E have said), so I guess that would explain it.

@ surayya But she knows each time Killian’s lying or telling the truth. Does that mean she’s not emotionally invested? :((. I could understand that when she didn’t remember him but in 314 she knows he’s lying about his adventures on his ship. Is that only because of the special connection they share?

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I’m pretty much convinced it’ll be a CS TLK that’ll break the curse. Emma is the savior, Hook got her back to save them all, she has to be the one to break the curse and they’ve been paralleling Season 1 so far with Hook in place of Henry. I’d be very surprised if anything other than a CS TLK ends up breaking the curse.

I’m not entirely on board the CS wedding bandwagon yet. Rumbelle look like the most likely candidate to me, but I’d be more than ecstatic to be proved wrong. Thing is, a CS TLK AND and CS wedding will ensure I don’t survive this season!
I can’t figure out how to use the spoiler codes.. ended up deleting the second half of my post :(! Can someone help me out?

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Hi guys.. I’ve been one of those silent lurkers on this thread, restricting myself to an occasional post when I feel too strongly because frankly it scares me to have people jump down my throat for having an opinion that’s different. Thankfully, I don’t see that happening often on this thread and hence breaking my self-imposed silence only because I agree with some of the opinions shared by a few posters recently. @surayya @Jennifer @emmajones I’m glad I’m not the only one who’s more than a little peeved with Emma’s casual attitude towards Hook. She has to have recognized that this guy came back for her, to save her especially in the light of the fact that he promised to think of her every day and she encouraged him to and all evidence shows that he did indeed do what he promised to.
I understand she’s been hurt yet again by Walsh and has retreated behind those famous “walls” of hers but what I fail to understand is that she can let other guys in.. Graham and Walsh, but when it comes to Hook, she’s suddenly skittish and scared, when all he does is for her.
I also do not get how that super-power of hers failed to work once in the 8 months she knew Walsh. The guy was playing her, pretending to love her and Henry and she couldn’t tell? Not even once? I guess deep down she must have felt something was “off” and she probably wouldn’t have married him even if Hook hadn’t come around with the potion just then, her first reaction to his proposal was to cut and run, but she did admit freely that she cared about him, that she even loved him. How could she not have seen through his treachery at all? She can tell when Hook is lying about seemingly mundane things but not when Walsh is doing so consistently for 8 months?
*Heavy sigh* I know this whole Walsh thing is a plot device, a means to keep CS apart till the season finale when in all probability the curse will be broken by a TLK, but I really cannot see Hook’s hurt, puppy face any more without my heart breaking for him. I know it’s a classic story-telling trope, they used it in Good Form when they had Emma shutting Hook down tersely when he tries to “bond” with her and towards the end of the episode we had the CS kiss. They’re doing this to build up anticipation and audience sympathy for Hook, getting rejected over and over and then BAM! The climactic moment of truth for Emma when Hook is under a sleeping curse or whatever and she realizes how much he means to her and that she’s loved him all along and she was in denial and then VOILA.. TLK, whooshing and curse breaking and everyone remembers!
Don’t get me wrong over this rant, I love Emma and there’s nothing I want more for her than to find true love and happiness, but right now my Killian feels are overpowering and I wish Emma would give him more than tidbits, something tangible and true like a “Good” or even some indirect encouragement to show she cares, she’s getting there, she just needs time to get over her last heart-break.
I agree with @Jennifer that she isn’t the only one that’s been hurt and abandoned on this show, she needs to give back a little. Killian’s been been relentless and resilient, patient and selfless and I do not get how people could interpret his line to her as rude or uncaring.
Also, on this show, all true love couples seem to have fallen in love in sync. I mean, one half of the couple didn’t have to wait for the other to acknowledge and return their affections. True, all the love stories we’ve seen so far have been in flashback and CS is the only one (not counting OQ yet) we’re seeing in real time and when stories are told in flashback we have no real idea of the lapsed time, we can only take a guess. But with Snowing and Rumbelle and Cindy-Thomas and Eric-Ariel, love hit both of them simultaneously. I guess that’s what makes CS’s journey different, fraught with roadblocks, though we know they’ll get there in the end.
Sorry again for the long-winded rant. Guess I got carried away.
Well, do you guys think the next CS kiss will happen in the Hook-centric 3X17? I have my doubts. I think they’ll hold off on the kiss till the finale since it has to be a TLK and all. Also its interesting that Henry doesn’t have his memories yet so a TLK between Emma and Henry won’t work like the last time.

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OMG! The sneak peek is beyond awesome! How am I supposed to survive till Sunday knowing all that I know about how CS heavy this episode is gonna be from all of the glorious spoilers we’ve received so far? And survival after the episode airs? That sounds plain impossible right now..This ship is gonna kill me!

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Was reading through this thread about Married CS shippers and for the record I’m married and my 6 year old is a major CS shipper too!! She loves Captain Hook and is upset whenever he isn’t featured and is always rooting for him to fight the “bad guys”. She was truly disappointed that the final face-off with Pan happened between him and Regina and then him and Rumple and Hook wasn’t involved at all. Didn’t know how to explain that one to her. Adam and Eddy have twisted that tale beyond repair and now she’s going to look at every version of PeterPan and believe its Hook who’s the “good guy”

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@polythenepam – I agree with everything you said! Except that Killian starts the silly behaviour. Because IMO it was actually Neal lol with his “thanks but she’s got me now”. It was that snarky line that prompted Emma to ask Killian what was up. But both men were equally silly in this episode (although it was quite amusing in an embarrassing sort of way) and i think that it is the last we will see of any of those silly triangle antics. I think A+E put that lighter scene purposely there to draw attention to the ridiculousness of it.

I agree. I actually meant the starting off to indicate Killian lapsing into something inane and beginning his own personal descent into mindless idiocy. Did not think it would be taken as .. he started it the fight between him and Neal! I agree with what most of you say, they effectively ridiculed the “triangle” plot with that lighter fight and this is probably the last we’ve seen of it.
Did anyone notice that Neal didn’t say he loved Emma a single time after he was re-united with her? He asked Aurora to give her that message when she attempted to get into the Room of Fire, but has never said it to her himself. He said he’s fight for her, yes, but not that he loves her or has never stopped loving her. He never said the words Emma said to him back to her. And that disbelief in his eyes when he sees her using magic and the immediate withdrawal after that (his comment about Henry being the only good thing that came from them being together) makes me think that the only triangle we’ll be seeing will be between Emma and her walls and Killian trying to break past them and prove how much he loves her. I’m guessing the entire next half of the season will be Killian doing just that and Emma slowly realizing how different he is from Neal. And the season ends with the TLK that breaks whatever this new curse is!

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