[possum snoodle]

Well, I’ve got a few ideas on August. The visuals in the image are pointing to Pinocchio and the upcoming backstory may tie August, the ocean, the boat and the light bulb shape together. However, August as Pinocchio is not my favorite resolve on the identity. It could be, August just happens to be in the shop and all the props, only there in relation to the backstory. I do believe important clues to FTL come through the shop, as the Storybrooke folk have no memory of what they might be pawning thus allowing Mr. Gold some insight on how well the curse is holding. I’ve not looked to see if Gold’s shop is consistent throughout the series as sort of a looking glass of what’s to come or as a subtext device to the current backstory. I mentioned the oil cans also in the gallery pics and that could be saying a Tin Woodsman story may be coming and then, of course, there was that printing press. So, who knows?

As for August…
Recently, I’ve been running with August as The White Knight, due to his name breakdown to clues that lead to Lewis Carol and The White Knight. August does ride a motorcycle/horse and has “come to the aid of a damsel in distress.” He also wear lots of black and that seems like a reverse clue, perhaps. I’ve also thought he may be the author of the book as something of the Royal Writer and more lofty thoughts he may be something more cosmic and spiritual like, a combination of a Grand Knight Templar and Master Archivist/Librarian sworn to protect and mend all the stories ever told. Look for my August = White Knight aka Lewis Carroll thread, if you want more on all that.

I haven’t yet been convinced on the Bae, Grimm Brother or Henry’s father connections, although any of them are plausible. I’m not fully convinced on Pinocchio but I might like it if August is something related, like The Conscience Jiminy Cricket was to Pinocchio, August is to Emma. Perhaps, Pinocchio’s Conscience was separated from Pinocchio so he could be transformed back into wood – or The Book – and sent with Emma in the Wardrobe. If he is somehow a descendent or relative of Geppetto , that gets complicated due to the current story line and/or the curse, I think.

Who do you think August is?

[possum snoodle]

OK, I’ve been looking at the preview gallery pics at:

http://beta.abc.go.com/shows/once-upon-a-time/photos/sneak-peeks/sneak-peek-119/_m_sneak-peek-119a

I’ve noticed some possible references that may indicate August’s identity. If the pics are what I think they are, Lewis Carroll and The White Knight may be out of the running.

Please, view the pics, if you have not already done so. I believe they are quite telling. I’ll try to describe it without spoiling the fun.

The link should get you to the gallery on the ABC OUAT page. The setting is Mr. Gold’s shop and the props are telling us a story.

In one pic, August is entering the shop. Notice the lamps. Most do not have bulbs but one lamp has a bulb that is off and another lamp, above it, the bulb is on. Also, notice the nice trail the lamp cords make to…a certain musical instrument. It’s quite obvious. If that’s not enough, look at any of the lamps without bulbs. There is a shape created in the negative space by the metal support frame that would normally hold a lamp shade. In fact, imagine holding a bulb in your hand and what else might you make of it?

Another pic in the gallery series shows August in front of a painting. The painting looks as though it might be of an ocean scene but it is obscured by…two lamps without bulbs and what looks like a tattered banjo case. Interesting repetition of shapes, eh? It’s also interesting the “neck” end of the case points to August. Notice also, behind Mr. Gold, the sailboat with its mast pointing to a globe pointing more towards the ocean than the land. The sail boat can be seen more clearly in a different pic and on the shelf above that are some suspect figurines but they are out of focus.

Then, another pic, a close-up of August, seems to mix up the clues a bit. Notice the old-style oil cans on the shelf? Also, there is a figurine of what looks like an asian doll. It’s brightly lit by the lamp above and slightly out-of-focus so I can’t determine if the arms are a part of the figurine or separate…but attached.

There is also what seems to be an old printer’s press in the shop. There are lots of other props but these were the most identifiable upon first viewing. I thought it worth passing along and it may be worth posting at a higher level to see what others think.

Again, the link:
http://beta.abc.go.com/shows/once-upon-a-time/photos/sneak-peeks/sneak-peek-119/_m_sneak-peek-119a

Like the hand gestures, shadows and beams of light leading the viewer to details in the painting, “The Last Supper,” there seems to be a visual story being told by the props in Mr. Gold’s shop.

Curiouser and curiouser….then, it is a Curios Shop, right? So, let’s shop.

[possum snoodle]

@the wiz wrote:

Possum Snoodle wrote: If the Lewis Carroll/White Knight Author-in-the-story concept is not exactly what the creators of OUAT are doing, I do believe something similarly intriguing will be revealed, like:

– a Writer/Editor for his world’s Story, with certain abilities when he erases/edits (a pen-as-sword Knight)
– a Master Archivist/Librarian/Bookbinder that keeps his world’s story in tune with the Universal Story.
– or going back to the Pinocchio thing, He is Emma’s Jiminy “let your conscience be your guide” Cricket, as, he never lies.

If the author-in-story thing proves to be true (and I hope it is) the writers of OUAT would have to be performing one of these 3 options themselves. Perhaps #1, but not #2 or #3 in my estimation. I’m more in favor of how magical the show’s writers are being in affecting audiences, cast and crew. Everyone touched by this show seems very inspired to me and that’s amazing! I’m also more in favor of the show’s writers emulating Dodgson/Carroll who also wrote with and Author-in-Story and other very imaginative characters– all functioning within a rigorous framework.

Yes, the influence and the patterns are all there and I love the creative team leaves us so many bread crumbs and eggies to tickle our curiosity and draw us deeper down their rabbit hole. Even, if all our speculations aren’t completely right along the way, the writers have, no doubt, sparked our imaginations and fueled our desire to find answers. In the process, we get a few good answers that align with the OUAT Universe and others, that expand our own.

In a sense, we are like the Scarecrow and OUAT creators, The Wizard – not so much giving us our brain but telling us we have always had a brain – and to use OUAT as our journey to expand our ideas and discover new things about ourselves. All, so we can better give a sound and proper reply when The Caterpillar asks, “Who are you?”

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@the wiz wrote:

The caterpillar’s question: “Who are you?”

Hugely important, yes. The focus on names, identity and mirrors (real and metaphorical) are key factors in the OUAT YOUniverse.

[possum snoodle]

@charming wrote:

@the wiz wrote:

charming: I am use to double thought; one I am a gemini and I am a taoist.

Where a perfect image of Jefferson was getting beheaded, perhaps a perfect image of you would be standing beside yourself 😀

Alice in Wonderland was based on mathematics. Every character and their quirks explain a math theory based on logic and such. The growing bigger thing Alice grew exponentially as when she shrunk. Throught the Looking Glass was based on a chess game where she started at the first rank and ending with the eighth where she’s crowned Queen. Each character was a chess piece and their quirks explained the pieces movements and their limitations. Yes the Quees on a chessboard did whatever she wanted because the piece had no limits. The most limiting pieces are the pawns and the knight. Their movements are such that they do not really have free reign of the board until a pawn reaches the 8th rank where it turns into a queen and does as it pleases. August the white knight taking Emma along like Alice. When Emma reaches the eighth rank she’ll be queen because she is Snow White and Prince Charming’s daughter. She’s already a princess so her becoming queen is not far off and the knight cannot cross the last river when Alice but in this case Emma to be crowned.

Yes, this is where my severed head has been on Emma/Alice….moving over the “final brooke/Storybrooke to become Queen. The Knight guided Alice so why not Emma as well? It just seems so very spot on – or at least, highly in tune with mathematical vibrations coming out of the marriages of all the backstories of each universe.

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@charming wrote:

@the wiz wrote:

You’re welcome PS! I suspect the White Knight could not advance with Alice because of the metaphor of a chess board in that story. Most pieces in chess have limited moves, unlike Queens and Kings. I have yet to see August experience limited movement – so that seems to me another disparity between the White Knight and August.

The “water” issues August has revealed so far deal with how magical water can be, how good it tastes to him and how he asks for a glass at Granny’s over anything else on the menu.

Yes I agree the knight on a chess board has one of the most limiting moves or any piece. He is free to come and go from SB. He did cross the toll bridge with Emma on the back of the motorcycle. Water seems not to be the issue for him. I’ll go with royal writer. August Wayne. that makes sense. Booth to Lewis Carroll is a harder case to make, his real name was Charles Lutwidge Dodgson (01/27/1832 to 01/14/1898) he was mathmatician, logician and Anglican deacon. If one can find a connection that fits I can agree because 2 of the 3 does fit and the third I do not see too clearly. Thoughts???

Didn’t August have some physical reaction at the stream/brook’s edge? Could that be an indication he does have limited moves and the location by the water’s edge/brooke was the edge of the Storybrooke chess square? I know some fans have attributed August’s moment there with the shin splints and his pulling back from the water (wood swells) to August being Pinocchio but those same hints would apply to The Tin Woodsman, too. Plus, Pinocchio wasn’t a Royal but Tin Woodsman ruled WinkieLand. Either character would cherish water, if their Alt Selves allowed them to enjoy it without side affects but perhaps, some deep hidden memory would make them leery of uncontained water. I’m not sure exactly why August sees water as magical, unless, he is just speaking poetically – or – he knows the water is actually magical in Storybrooke IF one knows how or has the privilege of rank to use it — or—-

ǝpıs ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ oʇ ʇı ɟo ǝɔɐɟɹns pǝɹoɹɹıɯ ǝɥʇ ɥbnoɹɥʇ ssɐd

August crossing over the bridge with Emma?. Yes, a knight has limited moves. So, try this: a Queen does not. Royal idea, eh? Now,”get on your bikes and ride…”♪♫ 😉

Perhaps, the pseudonym, Lewis Carroll, is as real as you and I or any character in a story – wooden boys included. Dodgson is from our world. So, I’m not saying Dodgson, the man, is the White Knight but I am saying Carroll, the created man, MAY be.

If the Lewis Carroll/White Knight Author-in-the-story concept is not exactly what the creators of OUAT are doing, I do believe something similarly intriguing will be revealed, like:

– a Writer/Editor for his world’s Story, with certain abilities when he erases/edits (a pen-as-sword Knight)
– a Master Archivist/Librarian/Bookbinder that keeps his world’s story in tune with the Universal Story.
– or going back to the Pinocchio thing, He is Emma’s Jiminy “let your conscience be your guide” Cricket, as, he never lies.

And I still believe there is a cosmic lesson yet to come about the importance of all stories and why we must pass the stories and art of storytelling on to generations to come. The Universe depends on it and…and… yeah, “all that stuff.” Well, you know the story.

Thanks for the input!

[possum snoodle]

Awesome responses! Thank You, All! Some time to ponder is in order.

[possum snoodle]

@wiz
Ahh, yes, the character analysis of White Knight doesn’t seem to mesh with the characteristics of August. I’m not giving up the whole theory yet.

Then, there’s that bit in the analysis about the White Knight not being able to go with Alice across the final brook(e) to her next journey as a Queen…and August does seem to have some issues with water. Perhaps, it has something to do with seeing his reflection in the looking glass surface of the water.

thanks for your input, wiz!

OH, btw, the dialogue that came up as your signature phrase,
“If you need evidence for everything Emma, you’re going to find yourself stuck in one place for a long time” – AW Booth, Ep 13,
I believe, is an Alice reference. I’m hunting Alice dialogue. I seem to recall Alice worried about being stuck in age, size, location, and such. Hmm.

[possum snoodle]

@darcyfarrow wrote:

Maybe he’s the librarian 😉

Yes. I’ve thought he might be a Matrix Architect sort of character but more of an Master Archivist/Librarian. He does know something about old-style bookbinding and using chemicals on pages that surely are rare in the eyes of a bibliophile.

Currently, I’m chasing a certain theory down a rabbit hole and looking into any references/hints August W Booth may be The White Knight aka Lewis Carroll – or at least, resolve any connections.

August (noble) Wayne (cartwright: a crafstman who “rights” things) Booth (Carol/carrel)
Thus, Noble=Knight, Cartwright=Writer/Editor, Carol/Carrel=Carrol

Lewis Carroll embedded himself into Looking Glass/Wonder Land as The White Knight and guided Alice to the final “brooke” she had to pass over to become Queen. When Alice crossed the brooke, The White Knight could not follow. Some fans speculate water is crucial clue to August Booth’s identity. Perhaps, he cannot gaze upon his own reflection in the mirror-like surface of water. Surely, there is something to my line of thinking August has a White Knight/Carroll connection.

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